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Old 09 April 2014, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Wrong again
You really are just about the most pathetic poster on SN and given the likes of some of the absolute Grade A dolts on here that is truly saying something!
Old 09 April 2014, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
You really are just about the most pathetic poster on SN and given the likes of some of the absolute Grade A dolts on here that is truly saying something!
Yes I know it must be difficult for you to have your nonsense called out by someone.

You're probably right though, I should just switch off my brain and result to calling everyone lying scum, and insult anyone who doesn't concur with that simplistic view

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Old 09 April 2014, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Yes I know it must be difficult for you to have your nonsense called out by someone.
Look if you want to call criticising so called public servants for ripping off the taxpayer nonsese and instead support them in their cause then that is up to you, but I am at a loss to work out why you would be so laissez faire about it.

If you were one of these people that has a corporate expense account and this behaviour was just a little too close to home then I could undertsand it, but I am sure you are not like that of course
Old 09 April 2014, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Look if you want to call criticising so called public servants for ripping off the taxpayer nonsese and instead support them in their cause then that is up to you, but I am at a loss to work out why you would be so laissez faire about it.

If you were one of these people that has a corporate expense account and this behaviour was just a little too close to home then I could undertsand it, but I am sure you are not like that of course
Criticising anyone for ripping off the taxpayer is absolutely the right thing to do - not sure why you think I think otherwise.

The wrong thing to do though is to use this issue to call all politicians lying scum, which is simplistic, wrong, baseless and completely self-defeating.

What you are doing in cynically exploiting this issue to justify your gloomy view of the world.

Whatever happened to treating each case on its merits? According to you all guilt by association is OK if you belong to a group you don't like

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Old 09 April 2014, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
But if you read the letters she sent to the committee, she simply did not think she should be investigated

She tried to have the investigation stopped, she gave evasive and partial accounts, and when the commissioner pressed her, to provide the correct information - she started to consult legal advice and sent threatening legalistic letters.

She simply believes that she should live by a different set of rules
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... and her faux 'apology'
... and her aide's veiled threat about Leveson.
... and MPs over-ruling an independant body about how much she should pay back.
... and the general smell of a corrupt politician about her.
yes I fully understand that - which is why I posted the above, a page or so back

I was just pointing out the danger of conflating the "flipping" issue with the current one

the "flipping" was within the rules (i.e. ripping of the taxpayer)

but as I also point out that the scandalous tax affairs (to the tune of billions) of some big corporations is defended by the same "within the rules" argument

when you have the leaders of the country behaving in such a cavalier attitude to tax payer money - what hope have we that they will tackle the far bigger issues facing this country

but boy, woe betide the single mother doing a bit of cash in the hand work - the "state" comes down like a ton of fvcking bricks
Old 09 April 2014, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
I was just pointing out the danger of conflating the "flipping" issue with the current one

the "flipping" was within the rules (i.e. ripping of the taxpayer)

but as I also point out that the scandalous tax affairs (to the tune of billions) of some big corporations is defended by the same "within the rules" argument

when you have the leaders of the country behaving in such a cavalier attitude to tax payer money - what hope have we that they will tackle the far bigger issues facing this country

but boy, woe betide the single mother doing a bit of cash in the hand work - the "state" comes down like a ton of fvcking bricks
^^^ Hit, nail and head ^^^

Hope there are some criminal proceedings against her, but I doubt it!
Old 09 April 2014, 04:26 PM
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She should pay back the whole £45,000 ..... I hope someone starts a petition to get that done!

She's a disgrace .... admin error my 4rse - odd how it always seems to favour the recipient these 'errors' ...
Old 09 April 2014, 06:24 PM
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Best bit is she's eligible for a 17k payoff for quitting
Old 09 April 2014, 06:59 PM
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Just seen that - all MP's who leave the cabinet get more that £17,000 as severance payment!!!!

How the hell did all these cons get into politics?

You steal from the taxpayer, you commit fraud, you get £17,000 pay off!!

WTF are MP's up to?!
Old 09 April 2014, 07:32 PM
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Yeah I heard that too, on the news. (I thought they said £70k! lol).

Thank god it's only £17k, eh. : rolleyes:

FFS.
Old 09 April 2014, 09:26 PM
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Personally, I'd rather keep the politicians we have and make the best of it.
What's the alternative? who would you rather be ruled by? Putin? Assad? which country floats your boat? Pakistan? North Korea? We could always follow Russell Brand and go in for a spot of anarchy, that'll be nice.
Old 09 April 2014, 09:36 PM
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Agreed.

But there's no harm in always wanting one's own politicians - and police, bankers, big business, what have you - to constantly strive to be as above board as possible (in spite of their relative 'non-corruptness' lol when compared to other nations).

In that regard, the electorate should never ever get complacent. Otherwise we WILL end up with 'those types'. (Well, maybe not Tyrants; but you know what I mean. ).

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Old 10 April 2014, 06:25 PM
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It's be funny if it weren't so tragic.
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