urban

iTrader: (1)

Where do you draw the line though?

Can you ever draw said line - I'm not so sure its possible.

Tidgy

while i dont like people getting away with crimes, you need to somehow try to draw a line under the whole thing (not easy i know), if not then you just get tit for tat than never ends and just escilates.

Will take several generations for true forgivness for those directly affected, but how else do you move the situation on?

CrisPDuk

When you consider that they're still marching, and fighting, over stuff that went on over 400 years ago, getting either side in Norn Iron to move on might be easier said than done

Having said that, I was over there not long ago, and the atmosphere is vastly better now than it was as little as ten years ago

New_scooby_04

iTrader: (4)

As distasteful as I find a lot of this, fundamentally there are two ways forward:

1 Thinking/Policy is orientated around revenge/retribution/lamenting the past
2 Thinking/Policy is orientated around creating a better future i.e. moving on

1 Is a self perpetuating/escalating vicious cycle
2 Carries with it the chance for progress

Not much more can be said.

Milneragain

Ok, I can live with that.

r32

I think there's some very grown up comments on this thread, I'm impressed.
But there's a few that don't seem very grown up.

An0n0m0us

I wonder what McGuinness has to say about this:

http://news.sky.com/story/1240575/om...es-over-attack

If he criticises the bombing and welcomes the arrest he's a hypocrite of the highest order and if he doesn't condemn the events of that day he is siding with the terrorist organisation he used to head up, whilst in public office.

Makes his position untenable and an example of why he shouldn't have been elected into the position he now holds.

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

Or this?

Attacks by dissedent groups in the now and recent past.

2014 – 11 attacks so far!
2013 – 30 attacks
2012 – 24 attacks, 1 fatal
2011 – 26 attacks, 1 fatal
2010 – 40 attacks
2009 – 22 attacks, 3 fatal

Almost daily a weapon or explosive is used in incidents linked to paramilitary groups. Punishment attacks, shootings and beatings are carried out on people from every part of the community by paramilitary groups.

urban

iTrader: (1)

Almost daily - really?
Where did you get that from I wonder.

mattstant

the IRA misappropriated and misinterpreted this in an a particularly evil self serving way though.

They declared war on uk forces and as soon as two of them were shot in Gibraltar (British sovereign territory) caught in the act of planning a another of their "acts of war" they ran screaming to the hague like a bunch of girls.
Their purposeful targeting of innocent women and children put back their cause immeasurably.

Had it not been for 911 and the sudden realisation that funds from mist eyed plastic paddys in America were soon going to dry up they'd still be planning the next Omagh.

There's blame to be attributed in the uk for sure but I really don't remember any women and children being blown up by either the sas or the RUC

AndyBaker

That's got my vote agree completely especially after the yanks had a taste following 911.

mattstant

RIP jean Mconville

hope the ******* gets real time for this

An0n0m0us

I did LOL the way Sinn Fein stated Adams has gone for a meeting with the PSNI, err no he has been arrested, not gone for a cosy meeting over coffee and biscuits

As always nothing will come of it, sadly.