My old car...be warned
27 April 2014, 03:29 PM
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27 April 2014, 03:43 PM
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There's something not right about this kind of stuff, the dealer by rights should be notified of this and have the option to say his side of the story. We can only go by what the op has to say and to be fair its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. The op has faults whith the car he has bought but there was faults untold with the car he traded in. By reading this most people would be put off buying or viewing this car even if possibly the dealer has fixed the problems.
Every dealer has an off day, its a tough market to be in. I would bet all my possesions that there's not a single dealer in this country that at some point has had a customer that wasnt fully satisfied with their purchase.
Every dealer has an off day, its a tough market to be in. I would bet all my possesions that there's not a single dealer in this country that at some point has had a customer that wasnt fully satisfied with their purchase.
27 April 2014, 03:45 PM
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There's something not right about this kind of stuff, the dealer by rights should be notified of this and have the option to say his side of the story. We can only go by what the op has to say and to be fair its 6 of 1 and half a dozen of the other. The op has faults whith the car he has bought but there was faults untold with the car he traded in. By reading this most people would be put off buying or viewing this car even if possibly the dealer has fixed the problems.
Every dealer has an off day, its a tough market to be in. I would bet all my possesions that there's not a single dealer in this country that at some point has had a customer that wasnt fully satisfied with their purchase.
Every dealer has an off day, its a tough market to be in. I would bet all my possesions that there's not a single dealer in this country that at some point has had a customer that wasnt fully satisfied with their purchase.
27 April 2014, 04:02 PM
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Treat people like they treat you is how I see it...if they dont tell me underlining issues with a car I wont do the same...simple. Dealers are a mixed bunch,some will help to the ends of the earth and some just see £££ in their eyes.
Ill be very surprised if they sorted the problems out (the original alarm is still on the car) and good luck to them getting 4k+ for it.
Im just letting folk on here know my dealer experience but that seems to being brushed under the carpet on here
Ill be very surprised if they sorted the problems out (the original alarm is still on the car) and good luck to them getting 4k+ for it.
Im just letting folk on here know my dealer experience but that seems to being brushed under the carpet on here
27 April 2014, 04:47 PM
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Kind of buyer beware though really isn't it?
Most dealers will pump up the price if they think they can get away with it,and you've descended from miles away, so no flak from you
...specially since you All READY sold it to them
Your argument is what they havnt done on yours, and said they would
I can quite understand your position. The only answer would be some gentle persuasion.....In letter form
Most dealers will pump up the price if they think they can get away with it,and you've descended from miles away, so no flak from you
...specially since you All READY sold it to them
Your argument is what they havnt done on yours, and said they would
I can quite understand your position. The only answer would be some gentle persuasion.....In letter form
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27 April 2014, 05:18 PM
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ok so they didnt do what they were supposed to do but you made the first deception when you wasnt open about the problems your old car had, sounds like you got what you deserved
27 April 2014, 05:20 PM
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regarding the part ex...yes I got 2k which I totally expected from a stealer so im far from pissed lol. the reason im doing this is because of their customer service,stuck my deposit down and said id have the money the following week...all good.
rang the dealer the week after and said ive got the money when will the car be ready? he said "tomorrow 100%"...thought brilliant ill cancel the wagon insurance to swap over to the new motor.
drove down from bradford to be told the car failed its MOT for wiper blades and a bulb and wont be retested until the day after...no phone call to tell me this and I told them my insurance ran out that day,not their problem.
had to get a days insurance on my wagon of 40 quid which I asked back and they said "no problem" (I didnt even ask for the 30 quid fuel back).
paid for the new car and was told that they wouldnt take the £40 off as their "gaffer" wouldnt allow it so got £20 off from the dealers commission...not happy.
no tax on the car (they had a week to sort out),so one of the dealers minions rushed off to the post office,car virtually had fuel fumes and the dealer put a gallon of unleaded as no super unleaded local.
saw that one of the alloys had a huge scrape that wasnt there when I first looked at the car,the car on the way home only hit 0.5 bar (luckily it was the ECUTEK low boost setting),tracking was meant to be sorted...which was not done.
car hadnt been cleaned inside or out as promised.
I know alot of you will say "take it back" but im a stubborn ******* and when I want a car I just want to get it home and look after it like an abandoned/ill treated dog.
regarding the wagon the maf issue only raises its head when its raining/cold due to water getting onto the induction kit through the bonnet vent and the starting issue is intermittent so many start when looked at.
the things not advertised/wrongly advertised are-
sti up pipe is an unknown jap part
short shift gearbox?....nope
doesnt have a HKS valve controller
no baileys dump valve has stock valve
its had recent pads not disks
only has 1 key not 2
doesnt have tein lowering springs has bilstein suspension all round
it doesnt have lots of japanese history,it has the service book and manual...thats it.
I wouldnt usually do this but me and the missus were fuming with how they treated us and dont want anyone on here being treated the same...id just avoid this dealer
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rang the dealer the week after and said ive got the money when will the car be ready? he said "tomorrow 100%"...thought brilliant ill cancel the wagon insurance to swap over to the new motor.
drove down from bradford to be told the car failed its MOT for wiper blades and a bulb and wont be retested until the day after...no phone call to tell me this and I told them my insurance ran out that day,not their problem.
had to get a days insurance on my wagon of 40 quid which I asked back and they said "no problem" (I didnt even ask for the 30 quid fuel back).
paid for the new car and was told that they wouldnt take the £40 off as their "gaffer" wouldnt allow it so got £20 off from the dealers commission...not happy.
no tax on the car (they had a week to sort out),so one of the dealers minions rushed off to the post office,car virtually had fuel fumes and the dealer put a gallon of unleaded as no super unleaded local.
saw that one of the alloys had a huge scrape that wasnt there when I first looked at the car,the car on the way home only hit 0.5 bar (luckily it was the ECUTEK low boost setting),tracking was meant to be sorted...which was not done.
car hadnt been cleaned inside or out as promised.
I know alot of you will say "take it back" but im a stubborn ******* and when I want a car I just want to get it home and look after it like an abandoned/ill treated dog.
regarding the wagon the maf issue only raises its head when its raining/cold due to water getting onto the induction kit through the bonnet vent and the starting issue is intermittent so many start when looked at.
the things not advertised/wrongly advertised are-
sti up pipe is an unknown jap part
short shift gearbox?....nope
doesnt have a HKS valve controller
no baileys dump valve has stock valve
its had recent pads not disks
only has 1 key not 2
doesnt have tein lowering springs has bilstein suspension all round
it doesnt have lots of japanese history,it has the service book and manual...thats it.
I wouldnt usually do this but me and the missus were fuming with how they treated us and dont want anyone on here being treated the same...id just avoid this dealer
Andy
Hmmm so was your old insurance conveniently on its very last day because I have found that you can normally just phone up and continue especially if your just SWAPPING car not policy.
And when you traded the car in it was very good of you to tell the dealer of all these problems because with them being intermittent he could have missed them. Look I don't mean to sound like a *** but there is always to sides of a story. For example when you say he didn't phone you to let you know there was a prob why did you not phone him I would. Look I hate dealers there in it for the money (your money) but let's keep the facts right.
27 April 2014, 05:29 PM
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"Yes I can read, although maybe your punctuation skills could do with some working on, we aren't perfect but I don't throw insults about it.
"There you go, I won't pull anything else apart. I just thought this was particularly hypocritical!
To the OP, thanks for the heads up!
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27 April 2014, 05:32 PM
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Treat people like they treat you is how I see it...if they dont tell me underlining issues with a car I wont do the same...simple. Dealers are a mixed bunch,some will help to the ends of the earth and some just see £££ in their eyes.
Ill be very surprised if they sorted the problems out (the original alarm is still on the car) and good luck to them getting 4k+ for it.
Im just letting folk on here know my dealer experience but that seems to being brushed under the carpet on here
Ill be very surprised if they sorted the problems out (the original alarm is still on the car) and good luck to them getting 4k+ for it.
Im just letting folk on here know my dealer experience but that seems to being brushed under the carpet on here
Maybe next time if your honest things will work out better for you or maybe not, but at least your conscience and honour will remain in tact, after all said and done it's all a person really has in this life, just because someone treats you badly it's no excuse to do the same.
Here ends the lesson.
27 April 2014, 06:01 PM
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God yeah lol,because each and every person on here would tell the truth regarding a part ex to a dealer on a car he wouldn't take any money off and had issues which he didn't bring to my attention and messed me about at every stage of the exchange....yeah I'm a terrible person
27 April 2014, 06:09 PM
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Regarding the insurance,I couldn't transfer the new car on my existing policy as it was twice the price so had to get a new policy. My fault for expecting the car would be ready before the insurance ran out,I rang him in the morning and said it would be 100% ready and drove there in the afternoon.
27 April 2014, 07:17 PM
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Infected by sti - that dog has a really, really big tongue. I like him and hereby recommend his promotion to presidency of scoobynet.
All those in favour say aye....
All those in favour say aye....
27 April 2014, 07:31 PM
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27 April 2014, 07:49 PM
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Having been in the motor trade it does annoy me how people perceive you. At the end of the day, as we can clearly see here you're only moving on other peoples 'work'. It's not like you buy a load of cars brand new then hold on to them until they're 10 years old, poorly maintaining them and sell them with the faults. As clearly demonstrated here, you're passing on a car that may have been given to you with faults. And a lot of dealers aren't experts in imprezas or the like. They're just offering a service to someone wanting a different car, a lot of the time so people can buy on the never never. In a perfect world every dealer would love to sell a fault free car but having witnessed how poorly 99% of the population look after cars then it's next to impossible. Even new cars have a lot more faults than most people would ever imagine.
27 April 2014, 08:07 PM
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My wife owns a used car sales business (walmley motor co) and she has just been done on a part exchange.
Older guy part exed his 06 nissan navara aventur against her discovery 3
Almost instantly his engine management light has come on the nissan, and its indicating a serious bottom end problem.
Not all dealers are out to rob you, as no matter what the cost she will have this rectified. Will not sell a car to anyone unless its 100%
always works both ways as with anything in life
My wife owns a used car sales business (walmley motor co) and she has just been done on a part exchange.
Older guy part exed his 06 nissan navara aventur against her discovery 3
Almost instantly his engine management light has come on the nissan, and its indicating a serious bottom end problem.
Not all dealers are out to rob you, as no matter what the cost she will have this rectified. Will not sell a car to anyone unless its 100%
always works both ways as with anything in life
Having been in the motor trade it does annoy me how people perceive you. At the end of the day, as we can clearly see here you're only moving on other peoples 'work'. It's not like you buy a load of cars brand new then hold on to them until they're 10 years old, poorly maintaining them and sell them with the faults. As clearly demonstrated here, you're passing on a car that may have been given to you with faults. And a lot of dealers aren't experts in imprezas or the like. They're just offering a service to someone wanting a different car, a lot of the time so people can buy on the never never. In a perfect world every dealer would love to sell a fault free car but having witnessed how poorly 99% of the population look after cars then it's next to impossible. Even new cars have a lot more faults than most people would ever imagine.
28 April 2014, 08:49 PM
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My wife owns a used car sales business (walmley motor co) and she has just been done on a part exchange.
Older guy part exed his 06 nissan navara aventur against her discovery 3
Almost instantly his engine management light has come on the nissan, and its indicating a serious bottom end problem.
Not all dealers are out to rob you, as no matter what the cost she will have this rectified. Will not sell a car to anyone unless its 100%
always works both ways as with anything in life
My wife owns a used car sales business (walmley motor co) and she has just been done on a part exchange.
Older guy part exed his 06 nissan navara aventur against her discovery 3
Almost instantly his engine management light has come on the nissan, and its indicating a serious bottom end problem.
Not all dealers are out to rob you, as no matter what the cost she will have this rectified. Will not sell a car to anyone unless its 100%
always works both ways as with anything in life
29 April 2014, 10:19 PM
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Yes I can read, although maybe your punctuation skills could do with some working on, we arent perfect but I dont throw insults about it
You listed faults with the car -
Tracking not done
Not cleaned inside/out
Wheels scuffed
car not ready and taxed when said it wa sdone
etc
So you are making out that you have been hard done by, well the stealer should be paying for these faults, yet you are paying for them out of your own pocket.
It seems like sour grapes to me, the list of faults with the white one,
sti up pipe is an unknown jap part - it is an uprated version then? just sales talk and if it is a part that is upgraded then it seems like slight exaggeration.
short shift gearbox? okay so it might not be.
doesnt have a HKS valve controller blatantly obvious when looking at the car
no baileys dump valve has stock valve - thats a good thing anyway
its had recent pads not disks Maybe the garage did discs?
only has 1 key not 2 again not hard to get a key cut?
doesnt have tein lowering springs has bilstein suspension all round still uprated, incorrect brand then?
So just out of curiosity did you inform the garage of these maf problems etc before you sold it to them?
Why would anyone pay for something that isnt their fault or problem?!!?!?!?!?
You listed faults with the car -
Tracking not done
Not cleaned inside/out
Wheels scuffed
car not ready and taxed when said it wa sdone
etc
So you are making out that you have been hard done by, well the stealer should be paying for these faults, yet you are paying for them out of your own pocket.
It seems like sour grapes to me, the list of faults with the white one,
sti up pipe is an unknown jap part - it is an uprated version then? just sales talk and if it is a part that is upgraded then it seems like slight exaggeration.
short shift gearbox? okay so it might not be.
doesnt have a HKS valve controller blatantly obvious when looking at the car
no baileys dump valve has stock valve - thats a good thing anyway
its had recent pads not disks Maybe the garage did discs?
only has 1 key not 2 again not hard to get a key cut?
doesnt have tein lowering springs has bilstein suspension all round still uprated, incorrect brand then?
So just out of curiosity did you inform the garage of these maf problems etc before you sold it to them?
Why would anyone pay for something that isnt their fault or problem?!!?!?!?!?
Interesting perspective you have.....
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Was going to look at this tomorrow http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...t-done/2267200 Not sure now.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
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02 May 2014, 12:04 AM
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Probably went limited from being a one man band due to profit. A lot of businesses start out as Sole Trader then switch to LTD at which point they become recognised by companies house, could have been in existence for a few years but never made enough to warrant going vat registered/LTD.
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Was going to look at this tomorrow http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...t-done/2267200 Not sure now.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
02 May 2014, 08:58 AM
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Was going to look at this tomorrow http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...t-done/2267200 Not sure now.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
It is interesting that one of the "testimonials" on the website says "When I bought my Type R off you back in 2012 you were really helpful and honest and the car was faultless" except http://www.companiesintheuk.co.uk/lt...rformance-cars states the company was set up in August 2013.
Blue and black alcantara seats, again no it hasnt.
Prodrive rear spoiler, er, no!
£1500 for a cambelt service and new brakes!, thats about double what you would pay imo, and the price, even with that mileage is a bit strong!