Devildog

That would depend on the circumstances of each case hodgy, so no. It does not extend to every parent that has experience of a child death.

stipete75

Who says she's dead, something your not telling us hodgy?

hodgy0_2

K, three spring to mind

Jake Parker, 5 drowned on brancaster beach

Gone in the "Blink of an eye" according to parents. (Actually Quite a moving plaque on the see wall in memory of him)

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...st-710705.html

Jamie Bulger - left unattended outside a shop


And the Cornish speed boat disaster, larking about on a powerful boat (they found the remains of the little girl only when they lifted the boat out of the water - in between the prop and the boat)

Http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-25948960


All a bit different - but the end result the same, who do you have contempt for

None, all three - pick n mix?

The Trooper 1815

iTrader: (31)

Harold Shipman got away with it for years.

Felix.

They left Maddie and the two 2 year old twin boys in their room for nearly an hour with out checking on them.

Just seems strange to me - they go on a family holiday, yet the children spend all day in the creche and then on the night they are left alone again whilst the parents wine and dine. Was it their holiday and the children were seen as a bit of an inconvenience?

I might just be me, but our holidays tend to be spent as a family

specialx

There is a thin line between accidents and wilful neglect thus putting a child in a dangerous position. The above cases are in my eyes are parent neglect.

leaving your child outside a shop, why would you do that?

Not watching your child near open water on a crowded beach. why would you do that? (me and the wife take turns it's not hard)

Messing around in a powerful machine with your family on board. Why would you do that? (I don't even drive my subaru fast with the kids in the car.)

My youngest disappeared in tesco for over an hour last year, we finally found him hiding under the freezers moments before we called the police and you know what?
It was my fault! Had I been paying more attention I'd of seen the direction he went etc etc this was neglect what ever way you look at it even for just a few seconds but there is a big difference when you intentionally put kids at risk for selfish reasons.

Kid are trouble magnets and any good parent should recognise this and never intentionally put their child in harms way. No matter how anyone dresses it up what the McCanns did was wrong my only pity lies with Maddie and her siblings.

hodgy0_2

people are different though

we have met parents on holiday, usually skiing, where they seem to give their children to various ski schools/creches and then "snuggle clubs" in the evening wtf

and my wife and I often wonder what is the point (but did not label them as child killers)

my wife has never worked - and been at the school gates, taking and collecting our 5 children to school - every single day of their school lives

every day - cooking them tea and breakfast

every school sports day/parents evening we are both there

so you could label the same "seems strange" to people (mothers typically) who choose to work

why have children,

Devildog

Its called negligence hodgy.

If they are negligent, I have contempt. If not I don't.

Leaving your children in the care of others who are qualified to give that care is not negligent.

Leaving your children outwith the care of others who are qualified to give that care is.

Felix.

How did they allow the apartment to be contaminated when the forensics were done the next day..?

LCN DNA by definition will bring back every little piece of DNA on the test square (ie human, animal, plant). Its not a case of SOCO only selecting the human samples. The very essence of contact and trace is that the room is secured and examined for it has, whether it relates to case or not

Local assault and break-ins would have been disclosed to the police or else how would they have known about them. And if it doesn't correspond to this case then they wont be linked. You can't just assume that because some one else was the victim of a burglary that night then cases must be linked

Have a read of some of the files to see how much the Portuguese Police did

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TRANSLATIONS.htm

SinghSuperStud

iTrader: (2)

Having just come back from our first family package holiday (2 kids of 2 and 3) I am amazed at the parents who chuck their kids into the creche / kids club or leave them poolside in a pram facing the sun whilst they are propping up the bar!!!