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Old 24 May 2014, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by mamoon2
Oh and:

Subsection (3) above does not apply if—

it is established that the goods did so conform at that date;

So you, actually Sir are wrong

Total minefield like i said.

I'd have fixed it for you tho Pimmo. Sounds like the dealer cleared the fault code and it has come back on as you were driving home. Bit naughty
I think we're heading towards a dealer vs customer thread here, which is totally not what I'm after.

Do you want to fix it for me?
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So today is the day .. I sent my "evidence" and court fee 21 days ago, as requested and I should have received their "evidence" 14 days before today.

I'm wondering if they don't have anything will they actually turn up??

I could do without this stress to be honest, but I owe it to myself to see this through.

Even if I lose at this point, they haven't put any counter claims in, so I'll only have their basic expenses at £90 a day max.

To be honest I just feel really let down by the garage.
Old 21 July 2014, 08:11 AM
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Good luck mate hope it goes exactly how you want
Old 21 July 2014, 08:20 AM
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When a mate did this with a caravan manufacturer, they didn't contest it, so he won.

THEN they went BACK to the court, said they hadn't known about the case, (), and the decision was rescinded...then, when it actually went to court, he lost.
Old 21 July 2014, 08:34 AM
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Well good luck today.
Post an update when you can and let us know the outcome.
Old 21 July 2014, 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
When a mate did this with a caravan manufacturer, they didn't contest it, so he won.

THEN they went BACK to the court, said they hadn't known about the case, (), and the decision was rescinded...then, when it actually went to court, he lost.
Meh, caravans are easy to set alight
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
So today is the day .. I sent my "evidence" and court fee 21 days ago, as requested and I should have received their "evidence" 14 days before today.

I'm wondering if they don't have anything will they actually turn up??

I could do without this stress to be honest, but I owe it to myself to see this through.

Even if I lose at this point, they haven't put any counter claims in, so I'll only have their basic expenses at £90 a day max.

To be honest I just feel really let down by the garage.
This seems like a good time to remind you of my quote on the original thread.

Originally Posted by f1_fan
I was just saying common sense thing to do would be to take it back and save all the hassle of he said, she said, third party involvement, mention of legalities etc.
That said I genuinely wish you good luck and stay positive as legally you are in the right here!
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good on you for seeing it through, hope it goes well and in your favor .good luck man
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Thanks, I won, they didn't show and the Judge was quite annoyed they had the cheek to fight it and waste his time.

Very clear cut, awarded the cost of repair and expenses.

They now have 14 days to pay.

Thanks for the advice on the this thread.
Old 21 July 2014, 12:51 PM
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Happy days, they must of just been trying to call your bluff, surely it's going to cost nearer a 1000 for them now? Was 500 originally?
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Originally Posted by *matthewturb2000*
Happy days, they must of just been trying to call your bluff, surely it's going to cost nearer a 1000 for them now? Was 500 originally?
If they pay up.
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Thanks, I won, they didn't show and the Judge was quite annoyed they had the cheek to fight it and waste his time.

Very clear cut, awarded the cost of repair and expenses.

They now have 14 days to pay.

Thanks for the advice on the this thread.

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Old 21 July 2014, 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Thanks, I won, they didn't show and the Judge was quite annoyed they had the cheek to fight it and waste his time.

Very clear cut, awarded the cost of repair and expenses.

They now have 14 days to pay.

Thanks for the advice on the this thread.
Well done you deserved that result! Bailiffs next if they don't pay up.
Old 21 July 2014, 03:57 PM
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So you wouldn't recommend them for next service?
Old 21 July 2014, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
If they pay up.
BUT I've won .. I'm not going to lose any sleep over the money.

Originally Posted by dpb
So you wouldn't recommend them for next service?
To you yes.
Old 21 July 2014, 06:28 PM
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Good job, well done anyway

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Old 22 July 2014, 10:55 AM
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Good news

Hopefully they'll pay up without problem but be prepared if they don't.
Old 22 July 2014, 03:16 PM
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I had to take legal action against a mapper. I won my case, then the insurance wanted to set aside the judgement, I resisted. I instructed my solicitor to apply for a charge against his property for the debt if the insurance didn't pay up. That was my next step, then the insurance company backed down and paid me in full.
Old 30 July 2014, 05:56 AM
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I'm under the impression now this lovely company will appeal.

My understanding from the court is an appeal is only allow if the law has been incorrectly applied or a serious issue with processing occurred?

I'm going to file back to the court on the 4th Aug to force payment unless I hear otherwise, but just wondered what their chances of getting another day in court are?
Old 30 July 2014, 07:45 AM
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Great outcome..

I think if they appeal another day in court will happen.

But if they didnt turn up then that will weigh heavily against the outcome and you will win again.

Its getting the money out of them that will be a PITA..

Good luck,youre near the end of the road!
Old 30 July 2014, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
My understanding from the court is an appeal is only allow if the law has been incorrectly applied or a serious issue with processing occurred?
I believe that is pretty much it too, they seem like chancers
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As mentioned before, all they have to do is say, big company, misfiled court letters, didn't know.....and your decision will be set aside and you'll have it all to do again.
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You'd have thought that would be contempt

But I suppose that's different type of court
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Originally Posted by alcazar
As mentioned before, all they have to do is say, big company, misfiled court letters, didn't know.....and your decision will be set aside and you'll have it all to do again.
This sadly ^^^^^^ unless you find a judge with common sense.

By the end of this saga you will have wasted more time and hence money than you would have done just sucking it up in the first place. That is why the law in this country basically does not work.

I appealed a parking ticket that was a cut and dry case and in the end even though I 'won' it cost me way more than the £50 fine going to the tribunal hearings and trying to get costs out of Manchester City Council.

It's a crap situation, but good luck with it.
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
This sadly ^^^^^^ unless you find a judge with common sense.

By the end of this saga you will have wasted more time and hence money than you would have done just sucking it up in the first place. That is why the law in this country basically does not work.

I appealed a parking ticket that was a cut and dry case and in the end even though I 'won' it cost me way more than the £50 fine going to the tribunal hearings and trying to get costs out of Manchester City Council.

It's a crap situation, but good luck with it.
Thanks


It's not a big company and the "director" put his name to the defence for which he then didn't show up for.

Question, if I don't attend and they win, can I appeal

Oh and the judge took a lot of notes, will he not just pass them over to any new appeal?
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The appealing of the judgement is a common used tactic by companies. If you have taken all necessary steps to settle prior to going to court and followed the court process, then you should be able to stop the appeal. You could seek to enforce the judgement to that might be seen premature until the appeal is heard

. This happened to me, once the company files the appeal then if you wish file your objections. List all the communication sent, judges comments and how straight forward the case is. If you have any queries speak to solicitor to make sure you follow the process properly.
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Basically, they're trying to make the process to time consuming and protracted for you that you'll just forget the whole thing. As for the whole "Sorry m'lord lost the papers" Totally unacceptable; speaks to incompetent administration. Were I the judge I would impose a heavier penalty for obstructing the proceedings!

Keep going, do everything as per instructions from your solicitors and give them a good spanking!!!
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Also dont forget to apply for a wasted costs order for the first case, if the appeal is allowed
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Originally Posted by andy97
Also dont forget to apply for a wasted costs order for the first case, if the appeal is allowed
Cheers, will I get notification of their intent to appeal? and a chance to question it or should I be filing something now?


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