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Just a quick bump on this as I'm really looking at BMW's now, around 08/09. 320D / 325D / 330D. Few questions...
How good are the 2 and 3 litres engines on mileage, i.e. what goes wrong first and is this at 100,000 miles plus? I've heard/read the 325 and 330D use the same straight-6 engine just to different 'tune', so a reputable remapper could make a 325D a very quick car?
I like the look of the M-sport coupes, now my son is 3, 2-doors is no issue.
Also, auto or manual? I prefer manual and 6sp sounds nice for runs, but not really had exposure to a good auto box (apart from a 4sp auto on my old 20 year old Merc luxo-barge ) so unsure what it does for things like acceleration, power delivery and mpg.
Oh, budget is £11k inc. a conservative £1k price for my Polo TDI as trade in/px. so £10,000 cash and car.
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How good are the 2 and 3 litres engines on mileage, i.e. what goes wrong first and is this at 100,000 miles plus? I've heard/read the 325 and 330D use the same straight-6 engine just to different 'tune', so a reputable remapper could make a 325D a very quick car?
I like the look of the M-sport coupes, now my son is 3, 2-doors is no issue.
Also, auto or manual? I prefer manual and 6sp sounds nice for runs, but not really had exposure to a good auto box (apart from a 4sp auto on my old 20 year old Merc luxo-barge ) so unsure what it does for things like acceleration, power delivery and mpg.
Oh, budget is £11k inc. a conservative £1k price for my Polo TDI as trade in/px. so £10,000 cash and car.
Cheers.
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Hi Hodgy, my sons car seat stays in our car all the time anyway now as he's held in with the cars seatbelt. So taking it in and out once in a while isn't an issue if necessary. If he messes about getting in and out currently, 'the look' does the trick
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Sure, I can see with only 1 it is not too bad - and not enough to compromise on the car etc
I had 16 years of getting kids into cars - with all the crap that goes with them too
I had a phrase called our ETD (estimated time to departure) and at its worst, when we had 5 under 9, and 3 or 4 of whome needed some sort of parental input to get them strapped in
It would takes us over 30 mins to all get in the car - so if we had to leave by 12.00 to get anyware our ETD of 30 mins would mean we would have actually start getting in the car at 11.30
Jeez - all in the past now, thank fvck
I had 16 years of getting kids into cars - with all the crap that goes with them too
I had a phrase called our ETD (estimated time to departure) and at its worst, when we had 5 under 9, and 3 or 4 of whome needed some sort of parental input to get them strapped in
It would takes us over 30 mins to all get in the car - so if we had to leave by 12.00 to get anyware our ETD of 30 mins would mean we would have actually start getting in the car at 11.30
Jeez - all in the past now, thank fvck
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Sure, I can see with only 1 it is not too bad - and not enough to compromise on the car etc
I had 16 years of getting kids into cars - with all the crap that goes with them too
I had a phrase called our ETD (estimated time to departure) and at its worst, when we had 5 under 9, and 3 or 4 of whome needed some sort of parental input to get them strapped in
It would takes us over 30 mins to all get in the car - so if we had to leave by 12.00 to get anyware our ETD of 30 mins would mean we would have actually start getting in the car at 11.30
Jeez - all in the past now, thank fvck
I had 16 years of getting kids into cars - with all the crap that goes with them too
I had a phrase called our ETD (estimated time to departure) and at its worst, when we had 5 under 9, and 3 or 4 of whome needed some sort of parental input to get them strapped in
It would takes us over 30 mins to all get in the car - so if we had to leave by 12.00 to get anyware our ETD of 30 mins would mean we would have actually start getting in the car at 11.30
Jeez - all in the past now, thank fvck
Without wanting to sound an **** (not my aim), you did choose the 5 kids and I can safely say I could not do it both on a financial and sanity point of view. 1 is plenty
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Just about to have a little one, got rid of my E92, it would be a nightmare with the 2 looooong doors in car parks, and no good on our backs!
Other than that it was a superb car and wouldn't have got rid of it. had the 330d which was great, you neeeeeed the 6 pot, plus it would still do 48mpg on a mway run.
Other than that it was a superb car and wouldn't have got rid of it. had the 330d which was great, you neeeeeed the 6 pot, plus it would still do 48mpg on a mway run.
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The modern bmws, it's best to go for the 3.0 detuned versions as they have the better engines and better fuel efficient than the 2.5 (3.0).
The new auto boxes are nice (7speed) but it it hasn't got that then go for manual.
IMO, I'd only buy a diesel if buying brand new with manufactures warranty the sell it when warranty expires (as this is what everyone else does) and this way you get the full benefit a diesel gives you.
Otherwise it's a petrol.
I just recently got a audi b8, was looking into a 3.0diesel as they seem fairly reliable than the 2.0d as the dpf is closer to turbo on 3.0d so dosent have the dpf issues as the 2.0d has.
Extended warranty is rubbish (third parties) unless getting manufactor warranty at a great cost, but worth it if the inevitable happens.
In the end I got a petrol.
The new auto boxes are nice (7speed) but it it hasn't got that then go for manual.
IMO, I'd only buy a diesel if buying brand new with manufactures warranty the sell it when warranty expires (as this is what everyone else does) and this way you get the full benefit a diesel gives you.
Otherwise it's a petrol.
I just recently got a audi b8, was looking into a 3.0diesel as they seem fairly reliable than the 2.0d as the dpf is closer to turbo on 3.0d so dosent have the dpf issues as the 2.0d has.
Extended warranty is rubbish (third parties) unless getting manufactor warranty at a great cost, but worth it if the inevitable happens.
In the end I got a petrol.
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This is why I like the 325D. 3.0 straight-6 and 197/296 so not exactly stressed.
Down the road a DPF delete and possibly anything the recommended if I found a trustworthy inde specialists. Not 100% yet.
Down the road a DPF delete and possibly anything the recommended if I found a trustworthy inde specialists. Not 100% yet.
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Money aside (and you may not believe me) but it gets easier, much easier, it helps that in general they all get on,
Some of them have had friends that are only children - and the parents have to work so hard to keep them happy and entertained, and that will never really stop - now ours just get on with it and always have each other
And tbh it is simply great fun
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Corky, I thought both the 325d and 330d were both the 3 litre engine? Where's 2.5 come from? Also what MY was the lci engine in? The 2010 facelift? I doubt my budget will get a 2010> car.
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They all have different engine codes (older vs newer ones, and revised set ups etc iirc) although they are all 3 litres, they usually make 2 3litre versions (hence 325 and 330. Detuned and tuned. (Selling tactics and so they can charge different prices)
Yes the later engines will be more hp and better mpg than the older ones (hp of later ones quoted in my earlier post)
Hth
Edit- 2007on they changed engine to a lc1 and then 2009/10on they got a slight power upgrade and better emmissions/mpg.
So both them are lc1 engines and better than pre 2007.
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With your budget and needs I would not look further then an Octavia dieasel estate or hatch
Very spacious and ideal for the next few years with a growing family
Will take the long distance jobs and all your music equipment etc and will not stand out like a BMW
Excellent build quality ,fully loaded with toys and built to last long term and parts and servicing cheap too
Don't be put of by the Skoda badge as they are a quality product
I ran my Octavia L&C to 88k in 5 years Averageing 55mpg and nothing went wrong
Why do taxi drivers swear by them ?
And they have mirrors unlike BMW which will bankrupt you in parts and serviceing
Very spacious and ideal for the next few years with a growing family
Will take the long distance jobs and all your music equipment etc and will not stand out like a BMW
Excellent build quality ,fully loaded with toys and built to last long term and parts and servicing cheap too
Don't be put of by the Skoda badge as they are a quality product
I ran my Octavia L&C to 88k in 5 years Averageing 55mpg and nothing went wrong
Why do taxi drivers swear by them ?
And they have mirrors unlike BMW which will bankrupt you in parts and serviceing
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With your budget and needs I would not look further then an Octavia dieasel estate or hatch
Very spacious and ideal for the next few years with a growing family
Will take the long distance jobs and all your music equipment etc and will not stand out like a BMW
Excellent build quality ,fully loaded with toys and built to last long term and parts and servicing cheap too
Don't be put of by the Skoda badge as they are a quality product
I ran my Octavia L&C to 88k in 5 years Averageing 55mpg and nothing went wrong
Why do taxi drivers swear by them ?
And they have mirrors unlike BMW which will bankrupt you in parts and serviceing
Very spacious and ideal for the next few years with a growing family
Will take the long distance jobs and all your music equipment etc and will not stand out like a BMW
Excellent build quality ,fully loaded with toys and built to last long term and parts and servicing cheap too
Don't be put of by the Skoda badge as they are a quality product
I ran my Octavia L&C to 88k in 5 years Averageing 55mpg and nothing went wrong
Why do taxi drivers swear by them ?
And they have mirrors unlike BMW which will bankrupt you in parts and serviceing
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Had four Subaru's and as per the 1st post, they don't meet my criteria.
John, I've looked extensively at the Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo diesel. It's a VAG car and speaking to the chap who looks after my current VW, it'd cost about the same to look after, ie not as cheap as Fords, Vauxhslls etc. but hold their value better. A reason why I'm looking at German due to that fact.
John, I've looked extensively at the Skoda Fabia Monte Carlo diesel. It's a VAG car and speaking to the chap who looks after my current VW, it'd cost about the same to look after, ie not as cheap as Fords, Vauxhslls etc. but hold their value better. A reason why I'm looking at German due to that fact.
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For £9k consider
For fun
2008/9 BMW 118d 143bhp, 70mpg, £30 VED, under 30k miles, RWD handling and solid build.
For warrenty
2011 Focus TDCI 1.6, 115bhp, 76mpg, £20 VED, under 7k miles. Have good chassis for ride and handling.
For fun
2008/9 BMW 118d 143bhp, 70mpg, £30 VED, under 30k miles, RWD handling and solid build.
For warrenty
2011 Focus TDCI 1.6, 115bhp, 76mpg, £20 VED, under 7k miles. Have good chassis for ride and handling.
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Well in that case I'd go with this:
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01406044753587
Should tick all boxes except for warranty, but you can buy that separately if it worrys you.
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classifi...01406044753587
Should tick all boxes except for warranty, but you can buy that separately if it worrys you.
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With regards run-flats, do you just replace size for size and a respectable brand? Nothing specific to consider apart from speed ratings etc.
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Saloon, Coupe is fine. I'm looking at M-sports as I'm not spending £9-11k on something which doesn't look nice to me or make me wish I'd gone for a different option.
With regards run-flats, do you just replace size for size and a respectable brand? Nothing specific to consider apart from speed ratings etc.
With regards run-flats, do you just replace size for size and a respectable brand? Nothing specific to consider apart from speed ratings etc.
Yeah like for like afaik, you'll probably have 18s if buying a msport along with sport suspension so it would be beneficial to change, so in other words find a car with low tread tyres so you can blagg more off price
I'd still get a 3.0d over a 2.0d as the latter 'can' be problematic.
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So these auto boxes... what are they like? 4/5/6sp, good changes, sluggish or fast?
I'm a manual gearbox type (or that's what I'm used too), so wary of a gearbox doing it all for me.
I'm a manual gearbox type (or that's what I'm used too), so wary of a gearbox doing it all for me.
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I have a pre LCI 330d msport auto.
I was looking for manual but as soon as I test drove an auto, I was hooked. Changes are not quick really but I don't find it an issue.
I get 40mpg all day long and I "use" the car!
Run flats don't bother me. I've already had a new set. I like the firm ride. A bit tram liney but not enough to bother me.
If you do get one and decide on non rft's then you will need to acquire a spare and a jack!
I was looking for manual but as soon as I test drove an auto, I was hooked. Changes are not quick really but I don't find it an issue.
I get 40mpg all day long and I "use" the car!
Run flats don't bother me. I've already had a new set. I like the firm ride. A bit tram liney but not enough to bother me.
If you do get one and decide on non rft's then you will need to acquire a spare and a jack!
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I have a pre LCI 330d msport auto.
I was looking for manual but as soon as I test drove an auto, I was hooked. Changes are not quick really but I don't find it an issue.
I get 40mpg all day long and I "use" the car!
Run flats don't bother me. I've already had a new set. I like the firm ride. A bit tram liney but not enough to bother me.
If you do get one and decide on non rft's then you will need to acquire a spare and a jack!
I was looking for manual but as soon as I test drove an auto, I was hooked. Changes are not quick really but I don't find it an issue.
I get 40mpg all day long and I "use" the car!
Run flats don't bother me. I've already had a new set. I like the firm ride. A bit tram liney but not enough to bother me.
If you do get one and decide on non rft's then you will need to acquire a spare and a jack!
I'll get there in the end
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Mine is an 08 plate, the LCI's appeared during 08/58 from what I can tell.
They are given away by the slightly different bonnet and rear lights.
If you happen to be anywhere in the Wakefield/Barnsley area you are welcome to have a bash
They are given away by the slightly different bonnet and rear lights.
If you happen to be anywhere in the Wakefield/Barnsley area you are welcome to have a bash
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You've gone and done it now, offering me a spin
So my assumption is the pre Lci models (upto 08 plate) aren't a bad car either, just slight improvements in the later Lci models.