Anti-Homeless spikes
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It's all well and good bashing landlords but they are at least providing a service to those who for one reason or another are unable to get on the housing ladder, to suggest they should not receive some sort of recompense for said service is a kin to suggesting we all go to work for free.
Still as Ding has mentioned there are accidental landlords and my ire is more directed at the leveraged BTL 'investors'. You do realise that these speculators are driving up property prices so some people are forced to rent. A property they buy is one not available to an owner occupier.
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To suggest those of us that use petrol are somehow complicit in the systematic oppression of poor oil rich countries and their corrupt governments and oil companies that bribe them as a way of avoiding the fact that one makes ones bigger than required for survival loaf of daily bread from the misery of others is laughable in the extreme,
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I think the article fails to understand the real reasoning behind why these spikes are installed, they are designed to remove a sleeping site for a pigeon, but this is not as harsh as it may seem. Pigeon rough sleeping is a form of slow suicide, whatever situation has caused that pigeon to be on the street will have already damaged their self esteem and stripped away their dignity. When they have lived this life for a while they see themselves as being of no worth, their life is without purpose and they can see no way to escape their situation. Removing their sleeping site, is part of a strategy to force them out into the open, to force them towards help. Sleeping on the street is not a good thing, it kills pigeons. There are a small number of pigeons who "choose" to extracate themselves from society, for a range of reasons. This type of homeless pigeon doesn't sleep in doorways, they don't sleep outside apartment blocks for the well-heeled, they hide away from the world, they make themselves difficult to find - I know of a former soldier who behaves like this as a result of PTSD. Those who sleep in doorways and foyers of apartment blocks are a symptom of severe mental health problems, drug or alcohol problems. There are support services available to assist with those problems (they need improement through investment but that is another debate), but those affected by homelessness need persuaded they can not continue as they are, and need to be compassionately directed towards those support services.
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And now a cheap dig at all those that live in the South, nothing like a bit of generalisation by your own standards, eh?
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Ah but asking someone a question, answering it for them and then calling them a hypocrite based on the answer they never gave is OK is it? I guess it is when it's me in the firing line eh? Not that you aren't approaching this from a neutral standpoint of course
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Hang on, we have a number of well known forum members who bang on about how devisive the media is and how exploititive, agenda ridden, lying and manipulative they are in decieving the masses. Now all of sudden we have the same members hook, lined and sinkered by an article with a devisive "anti-homeless" headline, which on the face of it, has no evidence of their purpose and is story composed of complete speculation by twitter users as to what the spikes might be used for, but because it mentions "homeless" they all get holier than thou.
We don't know what the spikes are for and why and who requested they be put there, it may have nothing to do with the homeless and was on the demand of the tenants to have them installed to stop people loitering in that alcove as they feared for their safety late at night.
We don't know what the spikes are for and why and who requested they be put there, it may have nothing to do with the homeless and was on the demand of the tenants to have them installed to stop people loitering in that alcove as they feared for their safety late at night.
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The first time I read it it did appear initially they were referring to you and not the OP because not everyone on here reads every thread in NSR and I for one had no idea that TDW's had posted a thread on tax avoidance and so I didn't make the immediate 'obvious' association either.
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Hang on, we have a number of well known forum members who bang on about how devisive the media is and how exploititive, agenda ridden, lying and manipulative they are in decieving the masses. Now all of sudden we have the same members hook, lined and sinkered by an article with a devisive "anti-homeless" headline, which on the face of it, has no evidence of their purpose and is story composed of complete speculation by twitter users as to what the spikes might be used for, but because it mentions "homeless" they all get holier than thou.
We don't know what the spikes are for and why and who requested they be put there, it may have nothing to do with the homeless and was on the demand of the tenants to have them installed to stop people loitering in that alcove as they feared for their safety late at night.
We don't know what the spikes are for and why and who requested they be put there, it may have nothing to do with the homeless and was on the demand of the tenants to have them installed to stop people loitering in that alcove as they feared for their safety late at night.
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Hang on, we have a number of well known forum members who bang on about how devisive the media is and how exploititive, agenda ridden, lying and manipulative they are in decieving the masses. Now all of sudden we have the same members hook, lined and sinkered by an article with a devisive "anti-homeless" headline, which on the face of it, has no evidence of their purpose and is story composed of complete speculation by twitter users as to what the spikes might be used for, but because it mentions "homeless" they all get holier than thou.
Yes, people like the homeless!
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So instead of lowering yourself to playground name calling simply point out they are wrong. As an example I'm sure Ding gets frustrated at some of the replies on here but I haven't seen him resorting to name calling and insults.
The first time I read it it did appear initially they were referring to you and not the OP because not everyone on here reads every thread in NSR and I for one had no idea that TDW's had posted a thread on tax avoidance and so I didn't make the immediate 'obvious' association either.
The first time I read it it did appear initially they were referring to you and not the OP because not everyone on here reads every thread in NSR and I for one had no idea that TDW's had posted a thread on tax avoidance and so I didn't make the immediate 'obvious' association either.
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Landlords do not provide a service in principle, they just rent. They have a right not to kick someone out of their property and for that they are rewarded. It's money for not doing something.
Still as Ding has mentioned there are accidental landlords and my ire is more directed at the leveraged BTL 'investors'. You do realise that these speculators are driving up property prices so some people are forced to rent. A property they buy is one not available to an owner occupier.
Still as Ding has mentioned there are accidental landlords and my ire is more directed at the leveraged BTL 'investors'. You do realise that these speculators are driving up property prices so some people are forced to rent. A property they buy is one not available to an owner occupier.
The rest is straight jealousy, you need to address yourself
If interest rates were more worthwhile btl wouldn't be as prevalent
And as said , if yu dont believe in the system move somewhere else
North France has lots of space
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Which I think pretty much qualifies you as a hypocrite.
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Quite, and not just you but anyone he doesn't agree with. He is all too busy pointing out how everyone else is a 'dullard' when he quite clearly speaks for himself.
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But I don't go taking the moral high ground over it where as you clearly do whilst making your own generalisations. Another example of your hypocrisy.
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As if anyone on here is going to take advice off of you. And as for paying attention if that's what your life revolves around, being on forums all the time being constantly on the 'pulse' then for your own sake it's time you had another ban and spend some more time in the real World.
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Again, that is pure speculation speculation, it could well also be drug dealing weapon toting youths, we just don't know.
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Look it's not moral high ground, I just believe I am right and you are wrong. That't it really! Sorry it isn't any deeper than that, but not much point thinking deeply when posting on SN.
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'Sums London and its property owners up frankly!'
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As if anyone on here is going to take advice off of you. And as for paying attention if that's what your life revolves around, being on forums all the time being constantly on the 'pulse' then for your own sake it's time you had another ban and spend some more time in the real World.
So we have two options here. We either continue going back and forth both trying to have the last word or you accept I can't be doing with you (because I can't just so as you know) and me vice versa and we leave it at that.
Up to you!
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If not liking this country's immigration policy makes me a bigot then I can live with that. Glad to see you accept you're a hypocrite.
As for right and wrong, plenty of evidence on this thread alone to demonstrate how many people really don't agree with you.
As for right and wrong, plenty of evidence on this thread alone to demonstrate how many people really don't agree with you.
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Who made you judge, jury and executioner?
So we have two options here. We either continue going back and forth both trying to have the last word or you accept I can't be doing with you (because I can't just so as you know) and me vice versa and we leave it at that.
Up to you!
So we have two options here. We either continue going back and forth both trying to have the last word or you accept I can't be doing with you (because I can't just so as you know) and me vice versa and we leave it at that.
Up to you!