Lorry Parking
28 June 2014, 06:46 PM
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Was going to suggest this , beat him to it on friday and make sure you also have another car parked outside your house. He'll either park elsewhere , or hopefully have to come to your door and ask for you to move. Then just say u park there coz its difficult to get past his lorry.
28 June 2014, 07:04 PM
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Looks like he knows his way around the law, due to the sticker on the side of the door - not for hire or reward.
Just to clarify, licenced LGVs (vehicles over 3500kg which are used for hire or reward) must be parked at their OC unless the vehicle is too far away and then it can be parked elsewhere (wont go into the rules here). Not many people realise but trucks require a separate licence to operate which is the coloured disc above the tax disc.
99% of UK regd wagons have this disc - its actually quite unusual to see one that's not got it. Tends to be people in motorsport, or horsey people who don't have them.
I would bet 20 quid that VOSA already have records on this vehicle. They probably stop it regularly.
Out of interest what does he use the wagon for? Any ideas?
Just to clarify, licenced LGVs (vehicles over 3500kg which are used for hire or reward) must be parked at their OC unless the vehicle is too far away and then it can be parked elsewhere (wont go into the rules here). Not many people realise but trucks require a separate licence to operate which is the coloured disc above the tax disc.
99% of UK regd wagons have this disc - its actually quite unusual to see one that's not got it. Tends to be people in motorsport, or horsey people who don't have them.
I would bet 20 quid that VOSA already have records on this vehicle. They probably stop it regularly.
Out of interest what does he use the wagon for? Any ideas?
28 June 2014, 09:04 PM
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Northern Ireland has very relaxed rules towards hgv's, ask any tramper (long distance hgv driver), they will all tell you thet they get away with murder.
VOSA don't stop trucks in NI and as a result lots don't bother with up to date licence. I would hazard a guess that it's not upto date.
VOSA don't stop trucks in NI and as a result lots don't bother with up to date licence. I would hazard a guess that it's not upto date.
28 June 2014, 09:36 PM
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Doesn't look like he has done anything wrong technically
But that looks a wide ish road if you can't reverse into that drive may I suggest you take more driving lessons
Joke !
But that looks a wide ish road if you can't reverse into that drive may I suggest you take more driving lessons
Joke !
28 June 2014, 10:16 PM
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For starters two large batteries...fetch good money at the scarp yard these days.
The air tanks going missing would be a b**tch too (brakes will lock on)
29 June 2014, 08:05 AM
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2 x batteries circa £20 for the pair not worth lugging around really.
And imagine the noise as the air receivers would make when removing the fixed lines.neither of these routes are ideal.
And imagine the noise as the air receivers would make when removing the fixed lines.neither of these routes are ideal.
29 June 2014, 08:21 AM
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I reckon he knows exactly what he's doing and what is allowed
You and your neighbors need to individually quizz him on whether he thinks it's socially acceptable
You and your neighbors need to individually quizz him on whether he thinks it's socially acceptable
29 June 2014, 11:55 AM
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I think you should just park cars both sides of the truck and leave them there. He won't be able to move it and he will soon get the message.
Or you could just advise the police / highways that the vehicle is causing an obstruction meaning you have to push your childs pushchair into the road which is surely a H&S issue and you want something doing about it before someone gets killed.
Or you could just advise the police / highways that the vehicle is causing an obstruction meaning you have to push your childs pushchair into the road which is surely a H&S issue and you want something doing about it before someone gets killed.
29 June 2014, 07:41 PM
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Tbh it looks to me like he is parking it there to try and be as less of a nuisance as possible. If he was to park outside his house then hell be blocking the other neighbours drives, it looks to me like hes parking it against where the bush is as no cars will be coming out their drives there, youll find hes also parking on the path to allow you and your neighbours as much room as possible to get off your own drives, its not ideal but i reckon thats probably the best way to park something that big and show as much appreciation to his neighbours as possible.
obviously it dosent help pedestrians trying to get past etc but they can always cross the road if needed at least it shows hes thinking about other the vehicles in your street.
its certainly parked a lot more considerately than some of the vans round my neck of the woods.
obviously it dosent help pedestrians trying to get past etc but they can always cross the road if needed at least it shows hes thinking about other the vehicles in your street.
its certainly parked a lot more considerately than some of the vans round my neck of the woods.
29 June 2014, 07:48 PM
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29 June 2014, 08:32 PM
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29 June 2014, 09:30 PM
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I'd say have a word with him.
would it make it easier for you if he parked it 15ft further forward?
I've got a work van, but I can parked outside my house. But a mate lives on a new housing estate and he struggles to park anywhere, even when he parks legally and not blocking anyone's drive, he still get's abuse and notes left on his windscreen
would it make it easier for you if he parked it 15ft further forward?
I've got a work van, but I can parked outside my house. But a mate lives on a new housing estate and he struggles to park anywhere, even when he parks legally and not blocking anyone's drive, he still get's abuse and notes left on his windscreen
30 June 2014, 12:19 PM
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Lorry is now gone, but the wife has moved her car out of the driveway into the space where the lorry was, looks like she is trying to keep the space for him!
The road is wide enough for me to reverse into OK, but 1 time out of 10 I will take it a bit too sharp, catch the mudflap on the raised kerb and rip it off. The neighbour has admitted she isn't the best at reversing and now leaves her car down the road instead of attempting to reverse in.
What is the "not hire or reward" about then? It has a load of tools and stuff for his company inside and pretty sure he is using it as a work van. I think he does joinery & interior fit out. Does the "Not hire or reward" just cover transport companies?
30 June 2014, 01:08 PM
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He could park it in front of his house, where there is plenty of room. That is the bit that annoys me. He parks his stuff when there is nothing outside his house, so he doesn't have to look at it out the front window. If it was parked outside his house it wouldn't be opposite anyone's driveway either.
Lorry is now gone, but the wife has moved her car out of the driveway into the space where the lorry was, looks like she is trying to keep the space for him!
The road is wide enough for me to reverse into OK, but 1 time out of 10 I will take it a bit too sharp, catch the mudflap on the raised kerb and rip it off. The neighbour has admitted she isn't the best at reversing and now leaves her car down the road instead of attempting to reverse in.
What is the "not hire or reward" about then? It has a load of tools and stuff for his company inside and pretty sure he is using it as a work van. I think he does joinery & interior fit out. Does the "Not hire or reward" just cover transport companies?
Lorry is now gone, but the wife has moved her car out of the driveway into the space where the lorry was, looks like she is trying to keep the space for him!
The road is wide enough for me to reverse into OK, but 1 time out of 10 I will take it a bit too sharp, catch the mudflap on the raised kerb and rip it off. The neighbour has admitted she isn't the best at reversing and now leaves her car down the road instead of attempting to reverse in.
What is the "not hire or reward" about then? It has a load of tools and stuff for his company inside and pretty sure he is using it as a work van. I think he does joinery & interior fit out. Does the "Not hire or reward" just cover transport companies?
30 June 2014, 01:15 PM
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Sorry should rephrase, his wife parked her car out there now! My wife didn't get a chance to steal his lorry space. The lorry will be due back this Friday so between now and then I will try to get one of our cars parked out on the road (not the scooby though lol)
30 June 2014, 08:25 PM
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Not for hire or reward is to do with the Operators Licence.
If he is saying he does not use the vehicle for hire or reward then he does not need an OL, or to use a tachograph, or to have the driver CPC.
Basically, those 5 little words get him out of most of the laws surrounding commercial vehicles.
Its not a van, its a light goods vehicle.
From the sounds of it he is using it in connection with a business - so it is hire and reward. I would call VOSA enforcement and report it myself.
OL costs most operators thousands. Just trying to avoid playing by the rules.
If he is saying he does not use the vehicle for hire or reward then he does not need an OL, or to use a tachograph, or to have the driver CPC.
Basically, those 5 little words get him out of most of the laws surrounding commercial vehicles.
Its not a van, its a light goods vehicle.
From the sounds of it he is using it in connection with a business - so it is hire and reward. I would call VOSA enforcement and report it myself.
OL costs most operators thousands. Just trying to avoid playing by the rules.
30 June 2014, 08:56 PM
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It has to be used for something who in their right mind would have something like that as their daily driver.
If his wife parks on the pavement trying to save the space get a car as close to it on both side it'll probably make the space too tight for him to get the van in properly.
If his wife parks on the pavement trying to save the space get a car as close to it on both side it'll probably make the space too tight for him to get the van in properly.
30 June 2014, 09:13 PM
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It has to be used for something who in their right mind would have something like that as their daily driver.
If his wife parks on the pavement trying to save the space get a car as close to it on both side it'll probably make the space too tight for him to get the van in properly.
If his wife parks on the pavement trying to save the space get a car as close to it on both side it'll probably make the space too tight for him to get the van in properly.
Was bored in work today so phoned local council, roads service and police, all of whom said the same thing - if it isn't parked on double yellows or directly blocking an entrance then they don't want to know. Police were not even bothered that it was parked on the kerb! The best part was the police said I could park a 40 foot articulated lorry outside my house (I asked them if I could), and they even went away to check this for me and phoned me back and confirmed it. They recommended not to start a parking war though... Strange none of them mentioned VOSA or operators licence laws.
30 June 2014, 09:18 PM
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it's a shame when things that are clearly wrong will not be enforced by anyone, I mean H&S is important and having to walk in the road to get round a vehicle that'll clearly block your view of oncoming traffic really shouldn't be allowed.
30 June 2014, 10:11 PM
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Probably not a good idea to sabotage, if you do that it might be there even longer. 
Report it to VOSA then get on with your life, you will end up getting more stressed than you are already, life is not always fair.
Report it to VOSA then get on with your life, you will end up getting more stressed than you are already, life is not always fair.
01 July 2014, 10:10 PM
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That's my plan
Was bored in work today so phoned local council, roads service and police, all of whom said the same thing - if it isn't parked on double yellows or directly blocking an entrance then they don't want to know. Police were not even bothered that it was parked on the kerb! The best part was the police said I could park a 40 foot articulated lorry outside my house (I asked them if I could), and they even went away to check this for me and phoned me back and confirmed it. They recommended not to start a parking war though... Strange none of them mentioned VOSA or operators licence laws.
Was bored in work today so phoned local council, roads service and police, all of whom said the same thing - if it isn't parked on double yellows or directly blocking an entrance then they don't want to know. Police were not even bothered that it was parked on the kerb! The best part was the police said I could park a 40 foot articulated lorry outside my house (I asked them if I could), and they even went away to check this for me and phoned me back and confirmed it. They recommended not to start a parking war though... Strange none of them mentioned VOSA or operators licence laws.
VOSA are the people. They used to require a constable in uniform to stop vehicles but now they can do everything themselves and they even write out their own fixed penalty notices. They tend to enjoy digging these cases - and although you might not ever hear anything back the chances are they will actually start to look into that vehicle. They have their own ANPR network and if they put it on there he will be getting stopped on a weekly basis!
And as for parking the artic on the street, the answer is - it depends..
Its an offence to park ANY vehicle over 7500kg (which a 44ft is!) on the pavement, verge, footway or any other land between two sections of road.
It can be parked on the road, during the course of business, so long as its not within 15m of a junction.
Now, back on topic. Any vehicle over 3500kg must be parked at its OC. Your guy does not have an OC, because he does not have an OL...
Goods vehicles over 1525kg must not be parked on a road with a speed limit of 30mph or more at night, without lights.
Vehicles parked at night must be facing the flow of traffic.
How many more can I find.. let me have a look at his tyres and a quick dip in his tank...
