i dont know who this Duncan is that every one is slagging off as its certainly not the Duncan i know and trust to work on my car !

 

I'm gonna put my 2p worth in regarding this thread
And I've said it a million times but folk don't seem to get it
There are what we call pro mappers , and DIY
Then those that think they are pro but are really DIY and charge for the service

Now I don't care who you are pro , DIY or whatever
They all make mistakes , have off days or whatever you may call it
It's not fair to single one person out because All pro mappers have had an issue with a car or two , it's the nature of the business
The only way to get experience in mapping is map
And the named ones have mapped a lot
That's not to say every single pro mapper will achieve absolute perfection every single time
Not one of them
At the end of the day they are human
If your not happy and think you can do it better then do it yourself
If you want to pay less go to a DIY ( pseudo pro ) mapper
If you want the best chance of a good map first time use a named pro
But none of the above is a 100% guaranteed perfection 100% of the time

 

It was
Made just over £2k profit by breaking it

 

hello mate, hope your keeping well.

No room for change here mate as it's difficult to improve on perfection.

Either that or like you I'm too old to and set in my ways to change now.

 

Isn't that how you two found love as well.

Get a room.

Oh and tubbs, nice to see you've still got your fake widetrack chav chariot.

 

Nice too see you're still spouting the crap about your old wrx and broken type r

 

Nothing much changes round here mate.

 

I noticed, only popped on to buy something and its still the same

 

Granted all make mistakes, i must of said this about 10 times, but to overlook a basic fundamental basic setting to me is, well, ignorant. The new ESL board software is very user friendly so to me, the software does alot of the work and interpreting the feedback is merely a case of basic mechanics.

 

I might sound a bit over critical here but surely if you are paying TOP dollar for a good map then you have a right to expect it to be 100%

 

I'd like free dinner too, never mind paying bloody petrol costs!

 

Map tweak + travel charge came to £190 so not all bad considering he was travelling from Bristol to Durham

 

I know of Duncan...don't use him....not planning on to...I'll stick who I know who's best at doing for me

 

 

What is a good map ?
And what is 100% perfection ?

 

A car that starts, idles well and drives without issues,a bit like it did before the remap i guess

 

The question is how , why and who interprets the feedback makes mapping a little subjective
Often is the case that a customer will request to see as much power as poss at the cost of things like reliability or emmisions
Some times some folk will be willing to do the opposite

You are paying your money for a map , is it the map you wanted , is it a bad or unsafe map ,

There are too many variables in issues like this
Unless it is what is considered a poor unsafe map then I wouldn't single out individuals

 

You start messing and this is what happens
It's nothing new for a car to start acting like a pig , can happen on the day it can happen a week after

Sorry I've not read through the whole thread but if the car had running issues why wasn't that picked up on the day

 

 

As you may or not know I've said pretty much the same as you but only regarding the cost not the quality
Because I know the quality of the map can vary day to day , car to car
And mapper to mapper

I like how you've pointed out where I said I've not read all the thread
Which is quite ironic , because if you would have bothered to read my past threads and got off your **** and done it yourself in the beginning you wouldn't be whinging on about your woes now
And secondly if you wasn't happy after the initial map and subsequent maps thereafter why on earth did you pay

No wonder I havnt got the time nor patience for this place anymore

 

Feel better now ?

Oh and by the way, ive read all of your replies and everybody elses

 

I've used Duncan twice now and never had a problem with his work and I'm still happy to this day

What's people opioions on Andrew Carr as I do fancy anti lag and launch control soon

 

Is your car a Newage ? Duncan can put LC on it , and he did it at no extra cost during the mapping for me

 

But I want anti lag though otherwise I'd stay with Duncan

 

A good map in my eyes is a safe map (no det) maximum safe power (if not achievable due to mechanical circumstances then advice on what is required), car fully working at the end and excellent customer services

probs missed a few things as well

 

Map should be going over all settings and features and actually setting them up and going over all map
I've seen some maps just few pulls in 4th on dyno done in 20mins that can't really be sure what all loads are doing
I've started tweaking mine myself now

 

No such thing as maximum safe power. Even without det the engine will be stressing more components and increasing the potential for component or engine failure.

Any owner that has their car mapped should understand the risks to the engine and car.

Don't get me wrong, I also believe a bespoke map can increase an engines longevity if driven sensibly as the map will calibrate all the sensors and components to optimise the overall system.

 

Indeed, maximum safe power is misguided and for pub talk. It's the area under the lines that's important. What you want is sustainable and usable performance commensurate with the car's specification.

 

Commensurate FTW Close the thread there

 

It been a good thread & good fun to read. May be its time to shut it but then who am I to say that.
So good info .
And I see u use fb tuning . Nice that's wear I am going . Hoping to go anyway .