Mappers - A law Unto Themselves ?
05 August 2014 | 03:21 PM
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From: The Terry Crews of moderation. P P P P P P POWER!!
"You play, you pay" It's just a question of when and how much.
There is no such thing as bulletproof or 100% safe and anyone who says otherwise is living in la la land. It's a game of odds; you can (and should if you have more sense than money, that is) stack the odds in your favour to a certain extent by using the best parts and the best people, but you're still rolling the dice.
When I was getting my build done, guess what part let me down?? An RCM part .......yes, I'll say that again, an RCM part!! The purpose of telling you this is to illustrate that even the best in the business unintentionally occasionally knock out a duff item or two! I was lucky, it was a component that caused no damage, just inconvenience ..... had it been a fuel/oil pump, it would have been a different story.
And that's before you consider the biggest nut in the equation: the one behind the wheel!
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05 August 2014 | 03:27 PM
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05 August 2014 | 03:29 PM
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05 August 2014 | 03:31 PM
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05 August 2014 | 03:44 PM
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Wow was that back in the days wear if something worked on the Subaru use it . Lol. Been looking into this mapping things like most of you have. I no alot more now and if getting the softwear it's don't seem that hard to play with the ECU. It would just meen taking your time to no wear to set things . That's wear if you go to a pro mapper it shod be done at that 100% level 1st time . Or just take your time and do it your self . You will see its not that hard . (But I will say paying some of the price some of the mapper want is a rip off . But if they are doing you a deal I.e a esl & mapping at a what YOU think is a good price . Then go for that mapper.
But price just for mapping shod come down abit . We all like to add bits to your car if mapping was cheeper then you would not have to save up and by the intercooler/jets/ fuel pump / & so on all in one go just to then get it mapped . Anyway . Good reading some of the comments. & has made me look into something I did not no much about befor the link started.
But price just for mapping shod come down abit . We all like to add bits to your car if mapping was cheeper then you would not have to save up and by the intercooler/jets/ fuel pump / & so on all in one go just to then get it mapped . Anyway . Good reading some of the comments. & has made me look into something I did not no much about befor the link started.
I can earn about £1,200/hr, charging around £300 per time.
A client's quite happy to pay £300, and 4 of them would be.
However, I wonder if that would change if they all thought 'hang on, he's making £1,200 for an hour'?
I agree that if you're paying 'pro prices' you should expect 100% pro service and results - and guarantees.
Be careful tho'.
I picked up one client because he tried to do something himself, and potentially cost himself £4,000.
Nothing easier than filling in a form is there??????
£250 later he found himself £2,500 better off.
Try it yourself by all means, but be careful because you're going where you haven't before, and if it goes wrong it's not just a pro remap you might need.
05 August 2014 | 03:55 PM
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You are right luckywelshchap.love the name by the way .and to reply to what I put was bang on . Try it yourself by all means, but be careful because you're going where you haven't before, and if it goes wrong it's not just a pro remap you might need. You are right when I say about doing it your self it's alot you need to no and read 1st . And then best to read it again . & in my case again lol. I will admit I will be going to fb tuning . They are doing a grate deal at the moment . And as I need a esl the deal he is doing is right for me .
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05 August 2014 | 04:02 PM
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Wow was that back in the days wear if something worked on the Subaru use it . Lol. Been looking into this mapping things like most of you have. I no alot more now and if getting the softwear it's don't seem that hard to play with the ECU. It would just meen taking your time to no wear to set things . That's wear if you go to a pro mapper it shod be done at that 100% level 1st time . Or just take your time and do it your self . You will see its not that hard . (But I will say paying some of the price some of the mapper want is a rip off . But if they are doing you a deal I.e a esl & mapping at a what YOU think is a good price . Then go for that mapper.
But price just for mapping shod come down abit . We all like to add bits to your car if mapping was cheeper then you would not have to save up and by the intercooler/jets/ fuel pump / & so on all in one go just to then get it mapped . Anyway . Good reading some of the comments. & has made me look into something I did not no much about befor the link started.
But price just for mapping shod come down abit . We all like to add bits to your car if mapping was cheeper then you would not have to save up and by the intercooler/jets/ fuel pump / & so on all in one go just to then get it mapped . Anyway . Good reading some of the comments. & has made me look into something I did not no much about befor the link started.
The art of written communication is to convey to the reader what was intended, thought etc.
The above post did that in my case (as hopefully my reply showed).
People who "cant understand most of it" presumably don't have the capacity - or certainly much less of a capacity - to a) determine the possible options to spelling mistakes; and b) make the appropriate substitution, thereby bringing it back within the extremely narrow parameters they require in order to understand things.
After all, I managed to work out that "cant" is most likely to bethe abbreviated form of 'cannot' but with the apostrophe mistakenly omitted.
After all, someone's not likely to call themselves a **** (sic) are they, even if ? *
(Intentionally left blank, for someone else to fill in
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05 August 2014 | 04:05 PM
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Just seen some unwarranted comments re. this post.
The art of written communication is to convey to the reader what was intended, thought etc.
The above post did that in my case (as hopefully my reply showed).
People who "cant understand most of it" presumably don't have the capacity - or certainly much less of a capacity - to a) determine the possible options to spelling mistakes; and b) make the appropriate substitution, thereby bringing it back within the extremely narrow parameters they require in order to understand things.
After all, I managed to work out that "cant" is most likely to bethe abbreviated form of 'cannot' but with the apostrophe mistakenly omitted.
After all, someone's not likely to call themselves a **** (sic) are they, even if ? *
(Intentionally left blank, for someone else to fill in).
The art of written communication is to convey to the reader what was intended, thought etc.
The above post did that in my case (as hopefully my reply showed).
People who "cant understand most of it" presumably don't have the capacity - or certainly much less of a capacity - to a) determine the possible options to spelling mistakes; and b) make the appropriate substitution, thereby bringing it back within the extremely narrow parameters they require in order to understand things.
After all, I managed to work out that "cant" is most likely to bethe abbreviated form of 'cannot' but with the apostrophe mistakenly omitted.
After all, someone's not likely to call themselves a **** (sic) are they, even if ? *
(Intentionally left blank, for someone else to fill in
).
i dont care what you think to be fair as all you do is google the answers anyway
05 August 2014 | 04:09 PM
#521
Fine, I give up.
You plainly don't want to hear what I'm saying. I'm trying to look at a wider picture, whereas you are focused on your own efforts.
But back to the original theme of this thread, and for the record, Duncan is a great mapper in my opinion, but other mapping practitioners are available should you feel the need to look elsewhere.
You plainly don't want to hear what I'm saying. I'm trying to look at a wider picture, whereas you are focused on your own efforts.
But back to the original theme of this thread, and for the record, Duncan is a great mapper in my opinion, but other mapping practitioners are available should you feel the need to look elsewhere.
05 August 2014 | 04:12 PM
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05 August 2014 | 04:16 PM
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You a right luckywelshchap.love the name by the way .and to reply to what I put was bang on . Try it yourself by all means, but be careful because you're going where you haven't before, and if it goes wrong it's not just a pro remap you might need. You are right when I say about doing it your self it's alot you need to no and read 1st . And then best to read it again . & in my case again lol. I will admit I will be going to fb tuning . They are doing a grate deal at the moment . And as I need a esl the deal he is doing is right for me .
Let us know how you get on
05 August 2014 | 04:16 PM
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05 August 2014 | 04:20 PM
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05 August 2014 | 04:23 PM
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Will do . He has had A1 feedback .& just a few miles down the road . 28/32 miles . Something like that . The drive home will be fun as the a40 will be more fun than the M40 lol.
I will be putting a link up about it even taken pics , plus making sure the spelling is spot on before posting it. Hoping it will be a good story to tell you all .
I will be putting a link up about it even taken pics , plus making sure the spelling is spot on before posting it. Hoping it will be a good story to tell you all .
05 August 2014 | 04:23 PM
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no trolling at all i havent used scabbynet for some months but popped on to buy some track wheels and spotted this thread which is of some interest to me as duncan is my mapper.
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05 August 2014 | 04:28 PM
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Will do . He has had A1 feedback .& just a few miles down the road . 28/32 miles . Something like that . The drive home will be fun as the a40 will be more fun than the M40 lol.
I will be putting a link up about it even taken pics , plus making sure the spelling is spot on before posting it. Hoping it will be a good story to tell you all .
I will be putting a link up about it even taken pics , plus making sure the spelling is spot on before posting it. Hoping it will be a good story to tell you all .
05 August 2014 | 04:30 PM
#532
classic davey boy here
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...stonheads.html
showing your vast knowledge as usual, i would await your 2 a.m. response but wheels are purchased now so ill let you carry on handing out dud info
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...stonheads.html
showing your vast knowledge as usual, i would await your 2 a.m. response but wheels are purchased now so ill let you carry on handing out dud info
05 August 2014 | 07:19 PM
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No - the A40.
Oxford (by-pass), Cheltenham, Gloucester, Monmouth, Abergavenny (an 'Aber' - welcome to Wales
) etc.
And there's no highwaymen asking for your hard-earned either.
You never know - might arrange a rendezvous one day.
An event like 'the Meet in the Middle'.
Oxford (by-pass), Cheltenham, Gloucester, Monmouth, Abergavenny (an 'Aber' - welcome to Wales
) etc. And there's no highwaymen asking for your hard-earned either.
You never know - might arrange a rendezvous one day.
An event like 'the Meet in the Middle'.
05 August 2014 | 07:22 PM
#535
Just under 2 weeks, 17 pages and almost 500 posts. *
Yep, tall oaks most certainly do grow from small acorns.
And just like them, this thread seems to branch out in all directions.
Certainly stirred up a good debate op
* Internet-based statistics with due acknowledgement to Scoobynet.com
Yep, tall oaks most certainly do grow from small acorns.
And just like them, this thread seems to branch out in all directions.
Certainly stirred up a good debate op
* Internet-based statistics with due acknowledgement to Scoobynet.com
Indeed, some good threads of conversation, alot of dygressing lol but hey, whats a discussion without a bit of off track info lol.
05 August 2014 | 07:33 PM
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classic davey boy here
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...stonheads.html
showing your vast knowledge as usual, i would await your 2 a.m. response but wheels are purchased now so ill let you carry on handing out dud info
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...stonheads.html
showing your vast knowledge as usual, i would await your 2 a.m. response but wheels are purchased now so ill let you carry on handing out dud info
And why use the stupid fat Thomas
Why not use your usual tag
Tubby tosser ?
05 August 2014 | 08:32 PM
#537
Fine, I give up.
You plainly don't want to hear what I'm saying. I'm trying to look at a wider picture, whereas you are focused on your own efforts.
But back to the original theme of this thread, and for the record, Duncan is a great mapper in my opinion, but other mapping practitioners are available should you feel the need to look elsewhere.
You plainly don't want to hear what I'm saying. I'm trying to look at a wider picture, whereas you are focused on your own efforts.
But back to the original theme of this thread, and for the record, Duncan is a great mapper in my opinion, but other mapping practitioners are available should you feel the need to look elsewhere.
I have looked and used elsewhere thanks
If you are looking at the big picture then you would realise duncan is not a great mapper but instead you also are more focussed on your own efforts, quite hipocritical imo.
Its not that i dont want to hear what you are saying more to the point that we both have our opinions and they differ.
05 August 2014 | 09:42 PM
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No - the A40.
Oxford (by-pass), Cheltenham, Gloucester, Monmouth, Abergavenny (an 'Aber' - welcome to Wales) etc.
And there's no highwaymen asking for your hard-earned either.
You never know - might arrange a rendezvous one day.
An event like 'the Meet in the Middle'.
Oxford (by-pass), Cheltenham, Gloucester, Monmouth, Abergavenny (an 'Aber' - welcome to Wales
) etc. And there's no highwaymen asking for your hard-earned either.
You never know - might arrange a rendezvous one day.
An event like 'the Meet in the Middle'.
Then we go your way . It's not cheep for a 15m coach .
05 August 2014 | 09:55 PM
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