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Old 31 July 2014, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Any person who breaks into an OAP's home (twice) then beats them should gets whats coming TBH.
Are they scum. Certainly sounds like it.

Was the fella in danger at one point and justified in thinking that he had to defend himself? Yes - absolutely.

Was the guy justified in getting out his firearm to defend himself? Absolutely

Is it hard to feel much sympathy for one of them being dead. Yes, under the circumstances.

Can we accept individuals playing judge, jury and executioner even for the worst of our society? No. That's where we have to draw the line.
Old 31 July 2014, 12:33 PM
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She got what she deserved, if it were me i would have cut her head off and stuffed it up her ****
Old 31 July 2014, 01:13 PM
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Really .. I'm shocked by the agreement that he was in the right.

Had she been in the house, I would agree, but to chase her down and kill her is not selfdefence.
Old 31 July 2014, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pimmo2000
Really .. I'm shocked by the agreement that he was in the right.

Had she been in the house, I would agree, but to chase her down and kill her is not selfdefence.
It's self defence against future attacks
Old 31 July 2014, 01:26 PM
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Down with all tree hugging do-gooders, you are the reason why prisoners have playstations & televisions in their cells, & why prison is no longer a deterrant to these people, more of an inconvenience.

The woman got what she deserved.
Old 31 July 2014, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Milneragain
Down with all tree hugging do-gooders, you are the reason why prisoners have playstations & televisions in their cells, & why prison is no longer a deterrant to these people, more of an inconvenience.

The woman got what she deserved.
LOL - I love Daily Mail readers
Old 31 July 2014, 01:33 PM
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^^Tree hugger^^
Old 31 July 2014, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jasey
A crude attempt at getting into our new force in politics.

We do need a Chief Whip
Sorry that position has been filled in the interim by F1 Fan.
Old 31 July 2014, 04:26 PM
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What's wrong with a bit of revenge?
Old 31 July 2014, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by the shreksta
It's self defence against future attacks
Spot on, when my lad was in afghan he saw some things and when asked about how he felt about it he said "that's one less that's gonna shoot me in my bed tonight" Don't think there's a smiley for this. Andy
Old 31 July 2014, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Milneragain
Down with all tree hugging do-gooders, you are the reason why prisoners have playstations & televisions in their cells, & why prison is no longer a deterrant to these people, more of an inconvenience.

The woman got what she deserved.

Couldn't agree more
Old 31 July 2014, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by 300gnspitzer
What's wrong with a bit of revenge?
Fancy a bit of Sharia law do we? Tha allows revenge killings.
Old 31 July 2014, 07:10 PM
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Nothing to do with Sharia law, if someone broke into your house, scared the crap out of you, then injured you, you wouldn't want a bit of revenge? I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, its just how it is. Could you honestly say that you wouldn't feel the same?
Old 31 July 2014, 07:25 PM
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He fired two warning shots to scare them off, shame both shots hit her in the back.
Old 31 July 2014, 07:25 PM
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They where in his house. case proved shoot em !
Old 31 July 2014, 08:34 PM
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Scary ..
Old 31 July 2014, 08:44 PM
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On the bare facts of the case, in the UK it would clear cut murder

Thank god we live in a country where citizen executioners would be tried for murder
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
On the bare facts of the case, in the UK it would clear cut murder

Thank god we live in a country where citizen executioners would be tried for murder
First time that's been posted on SN.
Old 31 July 2014, 09:03 PM
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Originally Posted by RA Dunk
Dunk for President!
You'd need a new pair of slippers, and a different cap. Then I'd vote for you!
Old 31 July 2014, 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
You'd need a new pair of slippers, and a different cap. Then I'd vote for you!
Nowt wrong with my present slippers I'll have you know!! As for the Mitsipishi hat it was either that or an even more burnt napper, but yea it wasn't very cool. hey ho!!
Old 31 July 2014, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by 300gnspitzer
Nothing to do with Sharia law, if someone broke into your house, scared the crap out of you, then injured you, you wouldn't want a bit of revenge? I'm not saying it's the right thing to do, its just how it is. Could you honestly say that you wouldn't feel the same?
Wasn't my point, mention revenge killings and sharia law on hear and it turns into a good old fashioned Muslim bashing with people talkin how barbaric it is. Yet in this thread people are condoning revenge killings left right and centre.

As for wanting a bit of revenge, nope. When my old car got broken into I'd have done what was necessary to defend my property and I was angry that someone had done it, but I certainly didn't want to hunt out the perpetrator and exact revenge.

Life's to short for that crap and to say you'd hunt someone out and kill/torture them smacks of either Internet bull**** or the words of a troubled mind.
Old 31 July 2014, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Wasn't my point, mention revenge killings and sharia law on hear and it turns into a good old fashioned Muslim bashing with people talkin how barbaric it is.
It's one thing to kill a thieving scumbag retard quite another to kill someone for looking at another man !

But you're right - lets stick to not giving a **** about one more dead criminal
Old 31 July 2014, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Wasn't my point, mention revenge killings and sharia law on hear and it turns into a good old fashioned Muslim bashing with people talkin how barbaric it is. Yet in this thread people are condoning revenge killings left right and centre.

As for wanting a bit of revenge, nope. When my old car got broken into I'd have done what was necessary to defend my property and I was angry that someone had done it, but I certainly didn't want to hunt out the perpetrator and exact revenge.

Life's to short for that crap and to say you'd hunt someone out and kill/torture them smacks of either Internet bull**** or the words of a troubled mind.
There's revenge, where you go after someone who's wronged you entire days, weeks or months later, and do whatever it is you're going to do purely in cold blood (which I believe is what's sanctioned under Sharia), and there's chasing someone out of your house mere minutes or seconds after they were trying to beat the cr@p out of you (or actually doing it) and then inflicting some kind of harm on them in the heat of the moment, all the while when you might still be in fear of them returning in the immediate or near future to have another go or finish you off to silence you. Any fool can see the two aren't really the same thing.
Old 31 July 2014, 09:45 PM
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Made me think of this case back in Blighty:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munir...ms'_rights
Old 01 August 2014, 08:21 AM
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Originally Posted by cuprajake
Could of fired a warning shot
Yeah, but they could of not tried to rob him
Old 01 August 2014, 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
There's revenge, where you go after someone who's wronged you entire days, weeks or months later, and do whatever it is you're going to do purely in cold blood (which I believe is what's sanctioned under Sharia), and there's chasing someone out of your house mere minutes or seconds after they were trying to beat the cr@p out of you (or actually doing it) and then inflicting some kind of harm on them in the heat of the moment, all the while when you might still be in fear of them returning in the immediate or near future to have another go or finish you off to silence you. Any fool can see the two aren't really the same thing.
If that's how you want to justify it then go ahead but revenge is revenge and shooting someone in the back in cold blood is pretty low.

He claimed they'd burgled his twice before (maybe entire days/weeks/months apart) and he made the conscious decision to give chase and shoot one of them twice, that's not a panic response, neither is this (see the quote below). That comment alone says a lot about the intent.

Greer told the reporter that he then pulled the woman’s body back toward his home. “I shot her twice, she best be dead.”
Old 01 August 2014, 08:40 AM
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Neil why are you even defending these scumbags? So what the b1tch got shot she was a low life anyway that probably won't be missed by many.
Old 01 August 2014, 08:58 AM
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Don't think you can reasonably shoot someone in back that's running away, it's not cowboys and Indians,not even in LA.

Story is so vague though,
Old 01 August 2014, 09:03 AM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
He claimed .
lol
Old 01 August 2014, 10:15 AM
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'Ang on, who is this 80 year old. Most 80 years olds I've seen need help to reach the bathroom. Who is this guy, Superhero Tyrone?

As for the morals of it. It's the USA, guns are rife and the intruders were especially stupid.

If it happened in the UK, I'd be a little more concerned. As gun totting pensioners can project force far beyond what their walking sticks can reach.


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