Ebola Outbreak
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How will quarantine stop the spread?,
Surely by the time they are quarantined, they have already been in contact with many people , so the ripples get bigger
Just basing it on a 2x2 pattern, by the end of two months, based on 2 people a day being diagnosed the numbers are astronomical.
If you have plague inc on your tablet, you can get the idea of what could happen
Remember duck and cover
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Surely by the time they are quarantined, they have already been in contact with many people , so the ripples get bigger
Just basing it on a 2x2 pattern, by the end of two months, based on 2 people a day being diagnosed the numbers are astronomical.
If you have plague inc on your tablet, you can get the idea of what could happen
Remember duck and cover
Mart
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I tend to get my information from experts in the field rather than the Daily Mail
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All it's going to take is one infected person in a major city who takes the longer end of the incubation period before they get diagnosed to pass it around and then it's **** hits the fan time as by that time an untold number of people in that city will have been exposed to it not to mention any of those who then travel onto another city.
And still the authorities sit back and say no it's fine we won't get it over here
And still the authorities sit back and say no it's fine we won't get it over here
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And they still say its very difficult to catch - yet the spanish nurse may have accidentally, momentarily 'touched' her face with a glove whilst removing it and she has it.....
I smell bullsh1t.
The media are being controlled - I'm sure of it.
I smell bullsh1t.
The media are being controlled - I'm sure of it.
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They are sitting back and not closing down boarders because they know its already here, but aren't going to publicise it...its just waiting for when/where the sh*t will hit the fan.
We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
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Of course it is and I bet the drug companies are foaming at the mouth so to speak at wanting to be the first with a 100% effective vaccine and the billions they will make from providing it globally. And if it's only Africa spreading it to Europe, USA and Australia I think i'll head for Asia or South America if it kicks off at that doesn't seem to have any panic over this at all.
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No, but Prof. John Oxford is and as he said two days ago given what they know about the virus the likelihood of an 'outbreak' in Europe remains almost impossible, but he did concede that until it is known how the nurse contracted it all bets may be off.
I tend to get my information from experts in the field rather than the Daily Mail
I tend to get my information from experts in the field rather than the Daily Mail
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Couple of months ago, with you having read information from the said Prof. you stated the chances of it ever reaching Europe was extremely slim and the press were simply overhyping the situation and yet today we find that it has reached not just Europe but the USA also. We now find this discussion has now moved from it ever reaching Europe to the possiblity of it reaching our shores though the Prof. contends that an outbreak of the virus is impossible. Despite what you think of the press, it is possible that sometimes the press might just be right too.
Just because the press write something and it turns out to be true does not mean they are writing with any authority, it just means they got lucky.
Anyway half the posters on here seem ready to work themselves into a lather over something that has not happened yet so I guess they have achieved the desired effect
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They are sitting back and not closing down boarders because they know its already here, but aren't going to publicise it...its just waiting for when/where the sh*t will hit the fan.
We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
We're going to shut up shop and setup the Hawne Tavern as a quaratine zone. Landlords has extra Batham's on order for "medicinal" purposes
They are **** scared to disrupt our holy economy is why. Growth will take a hit if they start shutting borders down.
Personally I'd stop any passangers coming in from West Afica now.
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Two months ago the Government held a Cobra meeting to discuss the movement of people to and from the infected regions, but you implied that this was OTT reactionary politics to keep the population under control. That is a far cry from what you're advocating now. Are we concerned now?
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I think the slightly irrational thinking on my part comes with a worry about trusting which source of facts is the most reliable. I can see how people get confudled by religious passages. It really is quite a job getting it straight in your head what is right and what is not so. Especially when something is plausible even if it isn't 100% accurate. Sell it right and bingo.......
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No, your implication was I was saying this was nothing to be concerned about when I have said nothing of the sort so I simply turned it round on you and of course you don;t like it. Hope that helps clarify the way your post came across
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Two months ago the Government held a Cobra meeting to discuss the movement of people to and from the infected regions, but you implied that this was OTT reactionary politics to keep the population under control. That is a far cry from what you're advocating now. Are we concerned now?
What was actually said was this.
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Originally Posted by jonc
Whilst the risk of an outbreak in the UK is very low, it's still enough for the Government to deem it necessary to hold an emergency COBR meeting on this issue.
Originally Posted by f1_fan
Yes, but according to the press it's either coming soon to wipe us all out or already in the UK in Glasgow at the Commonwealth Games.
From what I understand the COBRA meeting is more to discuss people travelling to and from the infected regions rather than the idea of an epidemic in the UK.
That said the government aren't adverse to a bit of OTT reactionary politics to things like this ... all helps to keep the population under control don't y'know
From what I understand the COBRA meeting is more to discuss people travelling to and from the infected regions rather than the idea of an epidemic in the UK.
That said the government aren't adverse to a bit of OTT reactionary politics to things like this ... all helps to keep the population under control don't y'know
Or do you contest the fact that governments of the last 30 years have 'over-hyped' things like terrorist threats to allow the creation of new laws that leave us as the most 'snooped on' population in the Western world?
Finally you asked if 'we' are concerned now. I presume you mean am I concerned now? My answer would be that of course I have a level of concern as would anyone on hearing news of the ever increasing death toll at the hands of a virus, but I suspect (and apologies if I am wrong) that your question relates to being concerned about ebola in the UK in which case my answer would be still be no, not unduly.
From what I am given to understand about Ebola the chances of an 'outbreak' type situation in Western countries is very unlikely and if the experts are all wrong well so be it, there's not much I can do about that!
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You were accusing those showing concern of working up into a lather hence me asking so you think there is nothing to be concerned about.
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You said this:
No one is working themselves up into a lather on this thread that I can see, just posters being rightly concerned at the lack of action by our Government in being proactive against this deadly disease.
You were accusing those showing concern of working up into a lather hence me asking so you think there is nothing to be concerned about.
No one is working themselves up into a lather on this thread that I can see, just posters being rightly concerned at the lack of action by our Government in being proactive against this deadly disease.
You were accusing those showing concern of working up into a lather hence me asking so you think there is nothing to be concerned about.
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So you resort to insults as usual when being asked where you sit on this, one minute accusing anyone showing concern as being worked up into a lather however it's OK for you to have concern.
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Sigh.... how about you stop playing party politics, you're no better than the political parties frankly?
What was actually said was this.
You said
And I replied
i.e. the COBRA meeting was not to discuss a UK outbreak like the press were banging on about, but to discuss the possibility of travel restrictions and I then added the implication that it may be to discuss the former as they aren't adverse to a bit of over reaction if it allows them to exert a bit more control. A bit different to your 'spin' on my comments, but then, much like your political party of choice, why let truth get in the way of your agenda?
Or do you contest the fact that governments of the last 30 years have 'over-hyped' things like terrorist threats to allow the creation of new laws that leave us as the most 'snooped on' population in the Western world?
Finally you asked if 'we' are concerned now. I presume you mean am I concerned now? My answer would be that of course I have a level of concern as would anyone on hearing news of the ever increasing death toll at the hands of a virus, but I suspect (and apologies if I am wrong) that your question relates to being concerned about ebola in the UK in which case my answer would be still be no, not unduly.
From what I am given to understand about Ebola the chances of an 'outbreak' type situation in Western countries is very unlikely and if the experts are all wrong well so be it, there's not much I can do about that!
What was actually said was this.
You said
And I replied
i.e. the COBRA meeting was not to discuss a UK outbreak like the press were banging on about, but to discuss the possibility of travel restrictions and I then added the implication that it may be to discuss the former as they aren't adverse to a bit of over reaction if it allows them to exert a bit more control. A bit different to your 'spin' on my comments, but then, much like your political party of choice, why let truth get in the way of your agenda?
Or do you contest the fact that governments of the last 30 years have 'over-hyped' things like terrorist threats to allow the creation of new laws that leave us as the most 'snooped on' population in the Western world?
Finally you asked if 'we' are concerned now. I presume you mean am I concerned now? My answer would be that of course I have a level of concern as would anyone on hearing news of the ever increasing death toll at the hands of a virus, but I suspect (and apologies if I am wrong) that your question relates to being concerned about ebola in the UK in which case my answer would be still be no, not unduly.
From what I am given to understand about Ebola the chances of an 'outbreak' type situation in Western countries is very unlikely and if the experts are all wrong well so be it, there's not much I can do about that!
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