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05 August 2014, 02:25 PM
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We are talking about dogs not caged zoo animals(which is very cruel).
I am responsible and always keep my dogs on a leash in a public place, luckily for me I have ample secure private land my dogs can run free on.
A dog on a lead is not cruel.
A dog that never goes out for a walk is cruel.
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05 August 2014, 02:39 PM
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I did not watch the programme
I was simply commenting on the "always on a lead"
presumably if you do not have access to private land, and had to walk it in public places - then "ones" dog would always be on a lead
in your opinion would that be cruel?
I was simply commenting on the "always on a lead"
presumably if you do not have access to private land, and had to walk it in public places - then "ones" dog would always be on a lead
in your opinion would that be cruel?
05 August 2014, 02:44 PM
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Sure enough, Dr Doolittle here managed to get their attention and would you believe it all four of them decided they wanted a piece of me (in a good way, I hoped!!!)
Predictably, they literally dragged this guy (who by now was looking distinctly non-hard) towards me and proceeded to jump up and drown me in big slobbery licks. I didn't mind at all; I'm a sucker for dogs and am physically big enough to not get bowled over by them......just!!!
I said to the guy: "Good job they're friendly isn't it; because they were walking you there!"
You'd think that would have made the point, but you know what that idiot did as he walked away (after the dogs let him that is)
He tried to tell them off for showing affection!
Prize w**nker!!
05 August 2014, 02:52 PM
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So when buying these breeds that are known to be aggressive; does "looking hard" not even register?
Unless you actually need a guard dog, there are plenty of much more passive breeds.
It's like being a tattooed up Hells Angel then pretending your "look" isn't anything to do with trying to look intimidating.
I see countless adult blokes who clearly feel the need to try and look hard with all sorts of methods; it's a bit pathetic really.
Unless you actually need a guard dog, there are plenty of much more passive breeds.
It's like being a tattooed up Hells Angel then pretending your "look" isn't anything to do with trying to look intimidating.
I see countless adult blokes who clearly feel the need to try and look hard with all sorts of methods; it's a bit pathetic really.
05 August 2014, 02:56 PM
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A week ago, I walked past a guy brandishing (and I use that word deliberately because that's what he was effectively doing) 3 Rottweilers. I was raised with big dogs so have a healthy respect for them but no fear of them, which usually means they are well disposed to me.
Sure enough, Dr Doolittle here managed to get their attention and would you believe it all four of them decided they wanted a piece of me (in a good way, I hoped!!!)
Predictably, they literally dragged this guy (who by now was looking distinctly non-hard) towards me and proceeded to jump up and drown me in big slobbery licks. I didn't mind at all; I'm a sucker for dogs and am physically big enough to not get bowled over by them......just!!!
I said to the guy: "Good job they're friendly isn't it; because they were walking you there!"
You'd think that would have made the point, but you know what that idiot did as he walked away (after the dogs let him that is)
He tried to tell them off for showing affection!
Prize w**nker!!
Sure enough, Dr Doolittle here managed to get their attention and would you believe it all four of them decided they wanted a piece of me (in a good way, I hoped!!!)
Predictably, they literally dragged this guy (who by now was looking distinctly non-hard) towards me and proceeded to jump up and drown me in big slobbery licks. I didn't mind at all; I'm a sucker for dogs and am physically big enough to not get bowled over by them......just!!!
I said to the guy: "Good job they're friendly isn't it; because they were walking you there!"
You'd think that would have made the point, but you know what that idiot did as he walked away (after the dogs let him that is)
He tried to tell them off for showing affection!
Prize w**nker!!
Was it really just one small spaniel?
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I have an expendable lead for when I take mine down the fields.
That way I have full control and they can run and sniff around if they desire.
My other 3 bigger breeds don't go on the expendable lead, they are not really runners anyway.
As for John Doe in the city, I have no idea.
05 August 2014, 04:03 PM
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It could have nipped the end off of my pinky off though!!
It was just a typo ..... there were 10 of them really!!!
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05 August 2014, 04:16 PM
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No one chooses one without at least some consideration that the dog looks intimidating.
Yet I bet a well trained lab, collie, etc is just as capable of deterring intruders if that's important.
And yes we have owned a dog for eight years and the dog that took a large chunk out of my face (me aged 3) was a little daschund...
05 August 2014, 04:18 PM
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I love and own rotties as I was brought up with them from a very young age not because they look aggressive.
They are one of the most loyal and rewarding breed of dog, brilliant family pets.
They are one of the most loyal and rewarding breed of dog, brilliant family pets.
05 August 2014, 04:24 PM
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Pretty obvious really; almost any bull terrier, Rotweillers, Dobermans, etc.
No one chooses one without at least some consideration that the dog looks intimidating.
Yet I bet a well trained lab, collie, etc is just as capable of deterring intruders if that's important.
And yes we have owned a dog for eight years and the dog that took a large chunk out of my face (me aged 3) was a little daschund...
No one chooses one without at least some consideration that the dog looks intimidating.
Yet I bet a well trained lab, collie, etc is just as capable of deterring intruders if that's important.
And yes we have owned a dog for eight years and the dog that took a large chunk out of my face (me aged 3) was a little daschund...
You do know that Stafforshire Bull Terriers are known as "nanny dogs" because of their temperament, especially around children don't you?
Not that I'd ever advocate leaving a child unsupervised with a dog, but if I had to it would be with a Staffie who been brought up by decent folk.
Whilst there is undoubtedly a "look how hard I am" element to the mindset of SOME people who select the larger breeds do so for much more commendable reasons: sometimes they are simply chosen because of their nature i.e. they were calmer than smaller animals. We had a Bull mastiff who if she went up on her hind legs was 6ft + and ran like a horse ....... we rescued her; the fact that she was big and intimidating looking had nothing to do with it. The fact that she was a beautiful dog with a lovely nature who needed a loving home had everything to do with it.
Not everyone who gets a big dog is posturing. It's not appropriate to tar all owners of such breeds with the moronic mindsets of the few!
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05 August 2014, 04:31 PM
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You do know that Stafforshire Bull Terriers are known as "nanny dogs" because of their temperament, especially around children don't you?
Not that I'd ever advocate leaving a child unsupervised with a dog, but if I had to it would be with a Staffie who been brought up by decent folk.
Whilst there is undoubtedly a "look how hard I am" element to the mindset of SOME people who select the larger breeds do so for much more commendable reasons: sometimes they are simply chosen because of their nature i.e. they were calmer than smaller animals. We had a Bull mastiff who if she went up on her hind legs was 6ft + and ran like a horse ....... we rescued her; the fact that she was big and intimidating looking had nothing to do with it. The fact that she was a beautiful dog with a lovely nature who needed a loving home had everything to do with it.
Not everyone who gets a big dog is posturing. It's not appropriate to tar all owners of such breeds with the moronic mindsets of the few!
You do know that Stafforshire Bull Terriers are known as "nanny dogs" because of their temperament, especially around children don't you?
Not that I'd ever advocate leaving a child unsupervised with a dog, but if I had to it would be with a Staffie who been brought up by decent folk.
Whilst there is undoubtedly a "look how hard I am" element to the mindset of SOME people who select the larger breeds do so for much more commendable reasons: sometimes they are simply chosen because of their nature i.e. they were calmer than smaller animals. We had a Bull mastiff who if she went up on her hind legs was 6ft + and ran like a horse ....... we rescued her; the fact that she was big and intimidating looking had nothing to do with it. The fact that she was a beautiful dog with a lovely nature who needed a loving home had everything to do with it.
Not everyone who gets a big dog is posturing. It's not appropriate to tar all owners of such breeds with the moronic mindsets of the few!
Small dogs act more aggressive to larger dogs and don't half yap for nothing.
I actually like the look of big dogs, not for the aggressive looks, but more at the posture they are built and look with all the right shapes in the right places, very calm dogs if family trained and do everything the selfs instead of small dogs that nowadays people treat like handbag dogs and pick them up like a baby at every opportunity (they have 4 legs you know?)
I very much like the French Bordeaux but wife won't let me have one as it would probably eat us of our house and home
She would like a beagle, but I said I'd want a shotgun to go with it
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05 August 2014, 04:34 PM
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Matt,
You do know that Stafforshire Bull Terriers are known as "nanny dogs" because of their temperament, especially around children don't you?
Not that I'd ever advocate leaving a child unsupervised with a dog, but if I had to it would be with a Staffie who been brought up by decent folk.
Whilst there is undoubtedly a "look how hard I am" element to the mindset of SOME people who select the larger breeds do so for much more commendable reasons: sometimes they are simply chosen because of their nature i.e. they were calmer than smaller animals. We had a Bull mastiff who if she went up on her hind legs was 6ft + and ran like a horse ....... we rescued her; the fact that she was big and intimidating looking had nothing to do with it. The fact that she was a beautiful dog with a lovely nature who needed a loving home had everything to do with it.
Not everyone who gets a big dog is posturing. It's not appropriate to tar all owners of such breeds with the moronic mindsets of the few!
You do know that Stafforshire Bull Terriers are known as "nanny dogs" because of their temperament, especially around children don't you?
Not that I'd ever advocate leaving a child unsupervised with a dog, but if I had to it would be with a Staffie who been brought up by decent folk.
Whilst there is undoubtedly a "look how hard I am" element to the mindset of SOME people who select the larger breeds do so for much more commendable reasons: sometimes they are simply chosen because of their nature i.e. they were calmer than smaller animals. We had a Bull mastiff who if she went up on her hind legs was 6ft + and ran like a horse ....... we rescued her; the fact that she was big and intimidating looking had nothing to do with it. The fact that she was a beautiful dog with a lovely nature who needed a loving home had everything to do with it.
Not everyone who gets a big dog is posturing. It's not appropriate to tar all owners of such breeds with the moronic mindsets of the few!
05 August 2014, 04:36 PM
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Pretty obvious really; almost any bull terrier, Rotweillers, Dobermans, etc.
No one chooses one without at least some consideration that the dog looks intimidating.
Yet I bet a well trained lab, collie, etc is just as capable of deterring intruders if that's important.
And yes we have owned a dog for eight years and the dog that took a large chunk out of my face (me aged 3) was a little daschund...
No one chooses one without at least some consideration that the dog looks intimidating.
Yet I bet a well trained lab, collie, etc is just as capable of deterring intruders if that's important.
And yes we have owned a dog for eight years and the dog that took a large chunk out of my face (me aged 3) was a little daschund...
So actually, by your own experience, the only agressive dog you've had the mispleasure to suffer from was a daschund. Not a bull breed, a Rottie, a doberman or anything similar, but a kilo and a half of six inch tall savagery
And we all know that people have them because they look intimadating
I don't believe any of my Rotties "looks intimidating" certainly never chose them for that reason.
Yes, trophy dogs exist and morons will always own them for that reason. There was an interesting comment on the programme last night by a dog warden who recons the problem was made muich worse when Pit bulls and pit bull types weer made illegal. All of a sudden they became more popular with the brain dead.
go figure
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My word, some of you aren't getting it; name one recent fatality that's been by a "non dangerous" breed? Had the little dog been a Staffy, I suspect I wouldn't have survived.
Why did the Dangerous Dog act come about?
It's not the size; a Great Dane is as aggressive as a baby mouse. A small Staffie will cause far more damage. I don't consider a mastiff to be a particularly dangerous dangerous breed either.
It's about dogs bred primarily for aggression and/or protection; you all know exactly what I mean, you're just being pig headed for the sake of it.
Know nothing about dogs? Our obedient, lovely lab still in perfect shape aged 8 says it all.
Why did the Dangerous Dog act come about?
It's not the size; a Great Dane is as aggressive as a baby mouse. A small Staffie will cause far more damage. I don't consider a mastiff to be a particularly dangerous dangerous breed either.
It's about dogs bred primarily for aggression and/or protection; you all know exactly what I mean, you're just being pig headed for the sake of it.
Know nothing about dogs? Our obedient, lovely lab still in perfect shape aged 8 says it all.
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My word, some of you aren't getting it; name one recent fatality that's been by a "non dangerous" breed? Had the little dog been a Staffy, I suspect I wouldn't have survived.
Why did the Dangerous Dog act come about?
It's not the size; a Great Dane is as aggressive as a baby mouse. A small Staffie will cause far more damage. I don't consider a mastiff to be a particularly dangerous dangerous breed either.
It's about dogs bred primarily for aggression and/or protection; you all know exactly what I mean, you're just being pig headed for the sake of it.
Know nothing about dogs? Our incredibly well trained, lovely lab still in perfect shape aged 8 says it all.
Why did the Dangerous Dog act come about?
It's not the size; a Great Dane is as aggressive as a baby mouse. A small Staffie will cause far more damage. I don't consider a mastiff to be a particularly dangerous dangerous breed either.
It's about dogs bred primarily for aggression and/or protection; you all know exactly what I mean, you're just being pig headed for the sake of it.
Know nothing about dogs? Our incredibly well trained, lovely lab still in perfect shape aged 8 says it all.
http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/112...n_family_farm/
Another very serious attack just up the road from me a few weeks ago, a west highland terrier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-14331673
This is just a couple of examples of two supposed non dangerous breed dog attacks half hours drive from me in the past few weeks.
05 August 2014, 07:57 PM
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Near were I live a few weeks ago, labradoodle attack
http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/112...n_family_farm/
Another very serious attack just up the road from me a few weeks ago, a west highland terrier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-14331673
This is just a couple of examples of two supposed non dangerous breed dog attacks half hours drive from me in the past few weeks.
http://www.dorsetecho.co.uk/news/112...n_family_farm/
Another very serious attack just up the road from me a few weeks ago, a west highland terrier
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-14331673
This is just a couple of examples of two supposed non dangerous breed dog attacks half hours drive from me in the past few weeks.
All dogs can get aggressive; but the ones that kill people are always the same types.
I just don't see the attraction of using a dog to try and convey being hard/scary/whatever and this is SO often why they are owned.
I know softy Rotties (except the two that ran into my folks garden then went for my dad), super soppy Dobermans and a very docile Staffy rescue dog owned by a friend (a lawyer incidentally) but I still wouldn't trust any.
Just get a friendly breed and train it properly; a "dangerous" dog immediately conveys a certain image from the majority of people; not one I'd ever want to have.
05 August 2014, 08:20 PM
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I agree with Matteeboy and I've always had the opinion that if you want to have a guard/dangerous sort of dog, then you should have a real genuine reason. There are probably about 50+ breeds that are better looking and have a better temperament than the usual Pitbull/Staffy/Mastiff type breeds. Having one to look hard or just to own one for the sake of it which defiantly IS the case with most owners is just pathetic. Training them to attack like in that program is even worse.
I own a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and a Border Terrier cross. Hell, I bet some people look at me and think I'm gay when I walk those through the small local village.
However, next year I intend to get a German Shepherd to protect my property while I'm out around the farm and we've also had an intruder enter the house while we were in it with a bit of a struggle at the kitchen door! (3 men seen on our CCTV afterwards when we reviewed the footage). Farms are very easy targets for criminals these days. People who use this excuse "I need my pitbull/staffy etc for protection" is wildly overused and IMO most aren't justified. Even still, a German Shepherd is at least half intelligent and loyal (by aggressive dog standards) unlike these other dangerous, highly unpredictable pitbull type breeds featured.
I don't like to tar everyone by the same brush and I do know that there are very responsible owners out there, but it's a shame that you are outnumbered by the chavs and idiots that own the same type of dog as you.
I own a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel and a Border Terrier cross. Hell, I bet some people look at me and think I'm gay when I walk those through the small local village
.However, next year I intend to get a German Shepherd to protect my property while I'm out around the farm and we've also had an intruder enter the house while we were in it with a bit of a struggle at the kitchen door! (3 men seen on our CCTV afterwards when we reviewed the footage). Farms are very easy targets for criminals these days. People who use this excuse "I need my pitbull/staffy etc for protection" is wildly overused and IMO most aren't justified. Even still, a German Shepherd is at least half intelligent and loyal (by aggressive dog standards) unlike these other dangerous, highly unpredictable pitbull type breeds featured.
I don't like to tar everyone by the same brush and I do know that there are very responsible owners out there, but it's a shame that you are outnumbered by the chavs and idiots that own the same type of dog as you.
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05 August 2014, 09:34 PM
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Watching this programme tonight and these people are just so thick it's difficult to describe. A perfect example of why dog ownership should be licensed to prevent these nutjobs from ever legally owning dogs and then when they continue to own them illegally they can be stopped by the wardens and the dogs confiscated and destroyed.
The law is clearly and ar$e as well. A pitbull is an illegal breed. Why are the police turning up to assess if the dogs are dangerous or not? If they are an illegal breed they should be confiscated immediately, no questions asked. If someone had an illegally owned firearm the police wouldn't turn up and assess if it was dangerous, they would arrest and prosecute that person for illegal ownership of a firearm so why isn't it the same for illegally owning a pitbull or anything that is illegal for that matter?
The law is clearly and ar$e as well. A pitbull is an illegal breed. Why are the police turning up to assess if the dogs are dangerous or not? If they are an illegal breed they should be confiscated immediately, no questions asked. If someone had an illegally owned firearm the police wouldn't turn up and assess if it was dangerous, they would arrest and prosecute that person for illegal ownership of a firearm so why isn't it the same for illegally owning a pitbull or anything that is illegal for that matter?