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06 August 2014, 04:07 PM
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If iam am not mistaken, in Germany a majority of the police use Rottweilers.
What is the general opinion on needing a licence to own a dog, in part I like the idea that it could be used to control breeding and clearly their are some that don't deserve to have the right to own any living animal whether it be a dog or even fish knowing some of the plebs round here.
I would be concerned that it would be another tick in the box for the nanny state and yet again taking some rights, responsibility, and freedom from the rest of us but is this a sacrifice we all need to make?
What is the general opinion on needing a licence to own a dog, in part I like the idea that it could be used to control breeding and clearly their are some that don't deserve to have the right to own any living animal whether it be a dog or even fish knowing some of the plebs round here.
I would be concerned that it would be another tick in the box for the nanny state and yet again taking some rights, responsibility, and freedom from the rest of us but is this a sacrifice we all need to make?
06 August 2014, 04:21 PM
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I think there are 2 different types of owners - Those who actually care for dogs ragardless of breed, and then there are those who specifically choose the type of dog for the look of it/initimidation factor - Staffs, Pit bulls etc. When i lived in Margate it seems every chav/scumbag had one of these dogs. It seemed the dog of choice for them..Not saying that all of them had one for those reasons, but there is certainly a consitancy.
06 August 2014, 04:45 PM
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I think there are 2 different types of owners - Those who actually care for dogs ragardless of breed, and then there are those who specifically choose the type of dog for the look of it/initimidation factor - Staffs, Pit bulls etc. When i lived in Margate it seems every chav/scumbag had one of these dogs. It seemed the dog of choice for them..Not saying that all of them had one for those reasons, but there is certainly a consitancy.
06 August 2014, 04:58 PM
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I got a staffy cross as they are very good natured and friendly, more so than many other breeds, when brought up properly. I've never met an aggressive staffy, although I have met a couple of owners who really wished their dogs would fight mine and looked very disappointed when they went off playing.
06 August 2014, 05:01 PM
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Why must you buy and drive a 1000000hp scooby when you can have a nice safe friendly quiet fiesta.
Why must you buy a £600 watch because of a name when you can buy a watch at Argos for £20
Why?..... Because you can.
06 August 2014, 05:10 PM
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It's not the dog, it's the owners and there is definately a trend for chavs and like to own these dogs for this specific reason. 'mess with me and my dog will kill you' kind of image.
06 August 2014, 05:12 PM
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I'm currently deciding on a new dog/puppie since our rottwieller had bone cancer (been about 2-3 months gone now.
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
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The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
06 August 2014, 05:14 PM
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Yes thats true, we earn our money and we buy the things we want or can afford. But i don't think thats the point here. My car won't just randomly bite some kids face off lol......where as a dangerous dog with a bad owner might just do.
It's not the dog, it's the owners and there is definately a trend for chavs and like to own these dogs for this specific reason. 'mess with me and my dog will kill you' kind of image.
It's not the dog, it's the owners and there is definately a trend for chavs and like to own these dogs for this specific reason. 'mess with me and my dog will kill you' kind of image.
No one under 30 should own a dog.
All dogs kept on leads in public( think that's law anyhow)
06 August 2014, 05:17 PM
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I'm currently deciding on a new dog/puppie since our rottwieller had bone cancer (been about 2-3 months gone now.
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
06 August 2014, 05:22 PM
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No, it needs a bad owner for that .....
You see what I'm getting at
We all seem to agree that what is needed is legal accountability on the owner's part. The issue is that these numb nuts who get dogs to look hard and deliberately cultivate an aggressive streak in them aren't aren't held responsible when the dog attacks someone, cause it's the "dog's fault innit!"
Ultimately this is compounded by the media who jump straight on the dangerous dogs bandwagon and call for ownership of select breeds to be banned when the reality is that it's more often that not the owner's behaviour that needs scrutinizing!
Some people just shouldn't be eligible to own ANY animal.
You see what I'm getting at
We all seem to agree that what is needed is legal accountability on the owner's part. The issue is that these numb nuts who get dogs to look hard and deliberately cultivate an aggressive streak in them aren't aren't held responsible when the dog attacks someone, cause it's the "dog's fault innit!"
Ultimately this is compounded by the media who jump straight on the dangerous dogs bandwagon and call for ownership of select breeds to be banned when the reality is that it's more often that not the owner's behaviour that needs scrutinizing!
Some people just shouldn't be eligible to own ANY animal.
06 August 2014, 05:28 PM
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No, it needs a bad owner for that .....
You see what I'm getting at
We all seem to agree that what is needed is legal accountability on the owner's part. The issue is that these numb nuts who get dogs to look hard and deliberately cultivate an aggressive streak in them aren't aren't held responsible when the dog attacks someone, cause it's the "dog's fault innit!"
Ultimately this is compounded by the media who jump straight on the dangerous dogs bandwagon and call for ownership of select breeds to be banned when the reality is that it's more often that not the owner's behaviour that needs scrutinizing!
Some people just shouldn't be eligible to own ANY animal.
You see what I'm getting at
We all seem to agree that what is needed is legal accountability on the owner's part. The issue is that these numb nuts who get dogs to look hard and deliberately cultivate an aggressive streak in them aren't aren't held responsible when the dog attacks someone, cause it's the "dog's fault innit!"
Ultimately this is compounded by the media who jump straight on the dangerous dogs bandwagon and call for ownership of select breeds to be banned when the reality is that it's more often that not the owner's behaviour that needs scrutinizing!
Some people just shouldn't be eligible to own ANY animal.
There was an interesting Louie Theroux programme about this in America ('city of dogs' i think) - was very sad. Worth a watch.
06 August 2014, 05:32 PM
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This cat looks really terrified of the "hard as nails Rottie"
Whereas im not so sure about this Labrador
Just an example of how manipulation, stereotyping and media sensasionalism can influence perception.
06 August 2014, 06:09 PM
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06 August 2014, 08:15 PM
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I would say no, if you look at the majority of Rottweiler owner's I would say they are enthusiast of the breed.