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06 August 2014, 08:22 PM
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06 August 2014, 08:29 PM
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Sorry to read about you losing your dog bustaMOVEs, I have lost a rottweiler myself and I never thought I would say it but it was like losing a member of the family, makes me a bit sad seeing pictures of everyone's dogs.
Who knew, I used to say I didn't like dog's
Who knew, I used to say I didn't like dog's
06 August 2014, 08:32 PM
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06 August 2014, 08:43 PM
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I'm currently deciding on a new dog/puppie since our rottwieller had bone cancer (been about 2-3 months gone now.
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
06 August 2014, 08:47 PM
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06 August 2014, 11:51 PM
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I'm currently deciding on a new dog/puppie since our rottwieller had bone cancer (been about 2-3 months gone now.
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
I loved the temp raiment of the rottie, loyal, smart, protective from any strangers/intruders, great with daughter, listened, loved cuddles etc the list can go on.
But the problem I have now is we don't want to get another rottie and be reminded of her in another simlar dog. Although I'd love another.
My wife now want something different, a beagle. I'm not overly keen on one tbh.
Then a Labrador retriever we can both agree on but I'm doubtfully of the protecting owners etc as they are friendly with strangers which I'm not keen about.
I'd love a French Bordeaux but they are huge lol
I've now found a Boerboel dog which I'm trying to convince the wife
Tempriment-
The Boerboel is reliable, obedient and intelligent, with strong watch and guard-dog instincts. It is self-assured and fearless. The Boerboel is very playful and affectionate toward its owner. Its favorite pastime would be to play a game of fetch loving every minute it spends with its master. Its jaws are strong and they will most often pop the ball it it playing with. Not to fret, it will just play with the popped ball! They are very gentle and good with children they know; allowing them to ride on their backs like a horse, loving every minute of the attention they are getting. Boerboels will do okay with other dogs, cats and other non-canine pets, letting birds come down and ****** from their food bowl! They will guard their family, friends and property with their life. When their owners are not home they will not allow anyone to enter the home, unless they know them very well. When welcomed visitors arrive they will accept them after being properly introduced. This breed requires a dominant owner. The authority the owner projects over the dog should be so strong that the dog will not bolt out the front door when it is opened. The objective in training this dog is to achieve a pack leader status. It is a natural instinct for a dog to have an order in its pack. When we humans live with dogs, we become their pack. The entire pack cooperates under a single leader; lines are clearly defined and rules are set. Because a dog communicates his displeasure with growling and eventually biting, all other humans MUST be higher up in the order than the dog. The humans must be the ones making the decisions, not the dogs. That is the only way your relationship with your dog can be a complete success. If one does not understand this concept 100% and have confidence that they can handle such a large guard type breed then this is not the dog for them. With the right owners the Boerboel can make a wonderful pet.
Health Problems-Due to artificial selection the Boerboel is a very healthy breed.
Now that sound like a good dog breed with no common health issues.
And for all the folk looking down at folk with the so called dangerous dogs, yeah I'm a chav and wanna impress mi homies if ya don't like it, stick ya finger up yer **** and spin on it like a helicopter.
A OWNER MAKES A DOG DANGEROUS!
You want a big dog that isn't friendly with strangers that has very strong jaws - what could possibly go wrong?
I have a Golden Retriever, who's friendly with everyone and has weak jaws - did I make a bad choice?
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07 August 2014, 12:08 AM
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If those ******* off the program had their dogs taken off them what do you think should happen to them?
They are not safe to rehome so they either live in a dog pound for the rest of their lives or are destroyed or if you want to put it kindly they are put to sleep.
Destroying them is kinder than making them live in a dog pound for the rest of their days, especially if they are going to be a danger to those who have to care for them limiting the attention they would receive.
Oh and in reply to whoever laughed at the suggestion of a Jack Russell being dangerous the most dangerous dog in a rehoming/care centre I volunteered at many years ago was a Jack Russell. Forget the problem German Sheperds, the Rottweilers, the Staffies, the Jack Russell that was there no one except the owner of the centre was allowed to go in with it due to how dangerous it was. Forget what you saw on the program, this thing should have been destroyed way before it ever got to this rehoming centre. It was psychotic and I have never seen a dog so dangerous. So don't ever think small dogs can't be dangerous.
On the flip side not all 'problem' dogs remain problem dogs and in the right hands some can change. At this centre I was at there was a problem Staffie that attacked all other dogs it came close to. I really gelled with this dog for some reason and it got really excited when seeing me turn up and I became really fond of it. When I walked it it's behaviour changed, it didn't show any aggression to any other dog whist with me. It wasn't anything I did, it was just simply the click that happened between me and the dog and it changed it's behaviour. The staff there couldn't believe the difference in the dog just because it took to me for whatever that reason was. At the time had I been in a situation to have a dog of my own I would have rehomed him but I wasn't and it's something I always regret not being able to do.
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07 August 2014, 03:19 AM
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Rotties have a bad name when people who dont know the breed are intimidated by them or when moron owners have them. Real rottie lovers will more than likely tell you theyre the best breed on the planet, and after owning/loving one yourself im sure youd agree too.
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07 August 2014, 08:47 AM
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I've owned Staffordshire bull terriers for nearly 30 years now, not one has attacked a human, am I suppose to stop owning because there now classed as status dogs ?
Not going to happen
Owned a Rottie as well in that time, but he died at a young age and had a few health problems, only reason I've never had another
Not going to happen
Owned a Rottie as well in that time, but he died at a young age and had a few health problems, only reason I've never had another
07 August 2014, 09:32 AM
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Yes Martin we know.
Please take your utopian ideologies where everyone lives in a world according to your rules to another thread and allow those of us who dare to be different to continue here without having to explain something that you probably wouldn't accept far less understand
Please take your utopian ideologies where everyone lives in a world according to your rules to another thread and allow those of us who dare to be different to continue here without having to explain something that you probably wouldn't accept far less understand
07 August 2014, 10:08 AM
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Here's a quick one of him in calm mode, there are two different looks as with a lot of breeds, I prefer this look, he looks like his mum and his dad was a huge black brindle with the slobbery jowels, was the only one of 9 that had this fawn colouring, I was first to view so had the pick of the litter and it was a done deal as soon as I clapped eyes on him, which is not the way to do it so I tried to avoid him but he and a brindle bitch wouldn't leave me alone and came to me every time I called, sometimes I wish I'd gone for one of the calmer ones but he's getting better as he gets older.
07 August 2014, 10:22 AM
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it was soft as ****.
07 August 2014, 07:10 PM
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Rotties certainly benefit from being well trained but they are not genetically "aggressive" What they are is dominant. And in my experience highly intelligent.
Matt, if you are going to quote "evidence" in support of your own prejuduce, at least have the intelligence to quote something with more substance than conjecture.
And for the record, you comment about Great Danes beig soft as mice? You really need to start getting your facts right.
"Great Danes can be shockingly aggressive. Modern breeders have worked hard to eliminate the centuries of breeding for the aggression necessary to hunt such prey as wild boar. While they’ve met with great success, poorly bred Danes can display dangerous throwback temperament traits. Not every Dane is Scooby Doo friendly. Never approach a Great Dane on the assumption of friendliness, especially if the Dane is accompanied by the children in his family, as the drive to protect the youngsters of the pack from perceived danger isn’t something that is so easily bred out"
Matt, if you are going to quote "evidence" in support of your own prejuduce, at least have the intelligence to quote something with more substance than conjecture.
And for the record, you comment about Great Danes beig soft as mice? You really need to start getting your facts right.
"Great Danes can be shockingly aggressive. Modern breeders have worked hard to eliminate the centuries of breeding for the aggression necessary to hunt such prey as wild boar. While they’ve met with great success, poorly bred Danes can display dangerous throwback temperament traits. Not every Dane is Scooby Doo friendly. Never approach a Great Dane on the assumption of friendliness, especially if the Dane is accompanied by the children in his family, as the drive to protect the youngsters of the pack from perceived danger isn’t something that is so easily bred out"
08 August 2014, 09:53 AM
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If you are going to question ownership of a particular breed (in this instance Rottweilers) then it would be fair to expect you to have a good understanding of that breed and not simply to rely on the prejudices and claims of others.
My reference to your lack of knowledge about the Great Dane breed was firstly to demonstrate that you didn't fully appreciate potential traits of that particular breed, thus calling into question your knowledge of another breed and secondly, and perhaps less obviously, to highlight the irony of your very much "out of character" reliance on third had information to make a point.
You yourself have said on this very board countless times that you would always prefer to rely on first hand experience with cars rather than the opinions of others, as those opinions are often highly subjective and flawed. I would therefore expect you to apply that approach to this subject as well in order to be taken seriously.
Is that better?
PS - I have real soft spot for Great Danes, and I'd consider one were it not for their comparatively short lifespan. Beautiful dogs.
08 August 2014, 03:52 PM
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My parents rescued a Staffie cross, who ended up being taken away from the original owners as they were trying to train him to fight.
I've never seen a more docile, loving dog than him despite what his previous owners must have put him though