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03 September 2014, 10:03 PM
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03 September 2014, 10:08 PM
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Not as outlandish as you try and portray, plenty of very experienced and eminent barristers, specialising in international law are not as convinced as you, and all live in the "here and now", unlike Blair - who lives in lala land
Not to mention some senior military personnel
Below - from and old article
Human rights lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman yesterday said there was a case for taking action against Mr Blair for waging an unlawful war.
He said: “I would not be surprised if a prosecution were attempted in the UK. The difficulty would be to establish his personal responsibility for specific crimes against UK law.”
Sir Geoffrey said there would be serious difficulties in making the case but these were not “insurmountable”.
He added: “It’s very doubtful whether there’s a crime of aggression in domestic law, but that would be the most obvious criminal offence.”
Fellow lawyer Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London, said Mr Blair could face prosecution in another country – and claimed the former PM had already started altering his travel arrangements as a result.
Mr Sands said: “When Tony Blair travels he now gets legal advice on where he can go and the pattern of extradition agreements.”
“I cannot think of a single international lawyer who thinks the war was lawful. Not a single name comes to mind.
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03 September 2014, 10:18 PM
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Not as outlandish as you try and portray, plenty of very experienced and eminent barristers, specialising in international law are not as convinced as you, and all live in the "here and now", unlike Blair - who lives in lala land
Not to mention some senior military personnel
Below - from and old article
Human rights lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman yesterday said there was a case for taking action against Mr Blair for waging an unlawful war.
He said: “I would not be surprised if a prosecution were attempted in the UK. The difficulty would be to establish his personal responsibility for specific crimes against UK law.”
Sir Geoffrey said there would be serious difficulties in making the case but these were not “insurmountable”.
He added: “It’s very doubtful whether there’s a crime of aggression in domestic law, but that would be the most obvious criminal offence.”
Fellow lawyer Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London, said Mr Blair could face prosecution in another country – and claimed the former PM had already started altering his travel arrangements as a result.
Mr Sands said: “When Tony Blair travels he now gets legal advice on where he can go and the pattern of extradition agreements.”
“I cannot think of a single international lawyer who thinks the war was lawful. Not a single name comes to mind.
Not to mention some senior military personnel
Below - from and old article
Human rights lawyer Sir Geoffrey Bindman yesterday said there was a case for taking action against Mr Blair for waging an unlawful war.
He said: “I would not be surprised if a prosecution were attempted in the UK. The difficulty would be to establish his personal responsibility for specific crimes against UK law.”
Sir Geoffrey said there would be serious difficulties in making the case but these were not “insurmountable”.
He added: “It’s very doubtful whether there’s a crime of aggression in domestic law, but that would be the most obvious criminal offence.”
Fellow lawyer Philippe Sands QC, professor of international law at University College London, said Mr Blair could face prosecution in another country – and claimed the former PM had already started altering his travel arrangements as a result.
Mr Sands said: “When Tony Blair travels he now gets legal advice on where he can go and the pattern of extradition agreements.”
“I cannot think of a single international lawyer who thinks the war was lawful. Not a single name comes to mind.
Ask the Kosovans or Serria 'Leoneians' what they think of his 'war crimes'
03 September 2014, 10:24 PM
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I think you will find obamas bombs have killed many many more innocents.
03 September 2014, 10:25 PM
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03 September 2014, 10:27 PM
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They have little relevance and would be pretty cold comfort to the millions of dead and injured Iraqis
03 September 2014, 10:35 PM
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03 September 2014, 10:41 PM
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Same doctrine, no - it was regime change in Iraq
Millions, probably, they did not even bother to count the dead
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Puts it at 200k dead, how many more injured who knows
Millions, probably, they did not even bother to count the dead
https://www.iraqbodycount.org/
Puts it at 200k dead, how many more injured who knows
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Blair's Chicago speech laid out his clear policy on Liberal Intervention. Iraq was part a continuation of that policy. 9-11 sharpened the focus.
BTW - My views on Iraq at the time were entirely driven by my liberal outlook, the Iraqi people deserved so much better than living under the rule of a cruel dictator.
The way things turned out was appalling. We totally messed up post war. For that Blair is undeniably responsible.
BTW - My views on Iraq at the time were entirely driven by my liberal outlook, the Iraqi people deserved so much better than living under the rule of a cruel dictator.
The way things turned out was appalling. We totally messed up post war. For that Blair is undeniably responsible.
03 September 2014, 11:13 PM
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04 September 2014, 12:50 PM
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What Martin???
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity.
Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity.
Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.
04 September 2014, 12:54 PM
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Haha, it just amazes me that no matter how negative or in the wrong people of power are he constantly try's to suger coat it.
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha
04 September 2014, 03:20 PM
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Haha, it just amazes me that no matter how negative or in the wrong people of power are he constantly try's to suger coat it.
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha
If there was even a 2% chance that a bad thing to do with our government happened! surely it's worth looking in to.........nope not on martins watch! we are the tinfoil hat brigade not him! it's crazy haha
04 September 2014, 03:32 PM
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Where as you on the other hand, if there is any negativity or wrongs committed by "people of power" there is a 100% chance that you'll concoct another ridiculous conspiracy theory with your buddies on a bodybuilding forum, so yes, you are fully fledged member of the tinfoil hat brigade.
No brainwashed consuming sheeple here
Ps...do you love Martin? Do you desperately want his moobs in your mouth?
If yes then I do apologise, if not then mind your own fooking business.
04 September 2014, 03:37 PM
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What Martin???
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity.
Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.
He is a government spy, they use people like Martin to work on lots of different social forums to try and show the government in a good light against the constant stream of negativity.
Normally people like Martin do not have a choice in the matter, it's a case of work for us or we will prosecute you for the crimes that you have been caught for.