Crap service from the 21st century NHS......
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I just wondered why you were making a pitch for a pay-at-use health care service. I thought perhaps that some form of market discipline might have been imposed on you to try and minimise non-attendance; what is/was a largely invisible social problem is dropped into your lap as a 'real' financial issue. Some would think that non-attendance was invented in the UK when the health service was nationalised.
Interesting. I was told to register in a new area even though I informed the practice that it was just a temporary move. I'd been with the practice since a child (except when I was living overseas).
For permanently registered patients, we see patients who have moved out of our area who are still registered and then advise them to register in their new area, and we also see patients the day they register. Some other practices will not see patients in either situation, which we consider unhelpful. Some patients at university come "home" to see us as temporary residents as they cannot get an appointment at their university GP. This tends not to work well as we don't have the history, records, medications, allergies. It would work if they were genuinely staying temporarily in the area and became acutely unwell.
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But it will happen - it simply cannot stand up to the "affordability" test
It will start with a flat fee to see a GP (to those who can afford it - the problem being is deciding the level at which people can "afford" it)
Then move to paying a daily "board and lodging" fee at a hospital (they are not hotels after all)
Then with the "seal" broken - all bets are off
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I mean if you look at the direction of travel with these "free" un-means tested benefits, they will eventually disappear, granted the NHS is a sacred cow
But it will happen - it simply cannot stand up to the "affordability" test
It will start with a flat fee to see a GP (to those who can afford it - the problem being is deciding the level at which people can "afford" it)
Then move to paying a daily "board and lodging" fee at a hospital (they are not hotels after all)
Then with the "seal" broken - all bets are off
But it will happen - it simply cannot stand up to the "affordability" test
It will start with a flat fee to see a GP (to those who can afford it - the problem being is deciding the level at which people can "afford" it)
Then move to paying a daily "board and lodging" fee at a hospital (they are not hotels after all)
Then with the "seal" broken - all bets are off
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I love the NHS. Hurt my shoulder on Friday evening, no way I'm going to A&E on a Friday night so went in at 8am, was out having been x-rayed and advised at 10am. Last time I went to A&E I was on an operating table the next day, awesome service and price.
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Not being funny mate but once you'd been given the all clear in terms of significant injury was it beyond you to walk into a pharmacy and buy some?
Ibuprofen, Codeine etc are all available over the counter.
So the NHS is crap because you two couldn't manage to go and buy some painkillers?
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Oh no, not a hard chair, if he was indeed in great pain and the only way to stop that pain was to sit in a hard chair, he would have sat in that hard chair till the pain stopped.
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Not being funny mate but once you'd been given the all clear in terms of significant injury was it beyond you to walk into a pharmacy and buy some?
Ibuprofen, Codeine etc are all available over the counter.
So the NHS is crap because you two couldn't manage to go and buy some painkillers?![Big Grin](images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
Ibuprofen, Codeine etc are all available over the counter.
So the NHS is crap because you two couldn't manage to go and buy some painkillers?
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You can't buy Naproxen over the counter in the UK for some bloody reason. Not that it is a 'painkiller' per se but it's more effective than Ibuprofen. Instead you need to get a GP's permission, then they moan they have too much workload.
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Stuff all this talk about painkillers and what have you. He should have been straight off to A&E at this point, those could quite easily be the symptoms of something quite serious after a neck injury.
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out of interest Jack, was your shoulder injury the result of a leisure activity
say Mountain biking, hang gliding etc
what would you say the chances, that in the future your insurance would be expected to pick up the tab
very easy to argue that case isn't it
why should the hardworking taxpayer (whoever this mythical beast is) subsidies your extreme sport fetish
interesting times ahead for the NHS
say Mountain biking, hang gliding etc
what would you say the chances, that in the future your insurance would be expected to pick up the tab
very easy to argue that case isn't it
why should the hardworking taxpayer (whoever this mythical beast is) subsidies your extreme sport fetish
interesting times ahead for the NHS
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out of interest Jack, was your shoulder injury the result of a leisure activity
say Mountain biking, hang gliding etc
what would you say the chances, that in the future your insurance would be expected to pick up the tab
very easy to argue that case isn't it
why should the hardworking taxpayer (whoever this mythical beast is) subsidies your extreme sport fetish
interesting times ahead for the NHS
say Mountain biking, hang gliding etc
what would you say the chances, that in the future your insurance would be expected to pick up the tab
very easy to argue that case isn't it
why should the hardworking taxpayer (whoever this mythical beast is) subsidies your extreme sport fetish
interesting times ahead for the NHS
And yes, I fell off my push bike being an idiot. And it still fecking hurts.
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Not sure if you're kidding or not, surely outdoor activities should be encouraged and sitting around on your fat **** making **** up to post on internet forums should be discouraged, I'll bet fat lazy people cost the NHS more than me.
And yes, I fell off my push bike being an idiot. And it still fecking hurts.
And yes, I fell off my push bike being an idiot. And it still fecking hurts.
windsurfing/kitesurfing/hangliding and injure yourself - should the NHS pay, a bit different from a bit of walking/jogging - I am sure you will agree
if you are not comfortable having the debate - pretend I am joking
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Debate, what debate? The NHS currently pays for fat people, smokers, drinkers and drug abusers to name a few, how you can not mention those but go straight for people engaging in sporting activities is beyond me. You need to reconsider your priorities.
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Just to add to the NHS fire.
My sister was recently pregnant. She developed a rash on her neck and shoulder and went to the doctor. She had read online that it could be related to kidney issues which are a risk to the unborn baby. Doctor sent her home saying anything kidney related would turn her skin yellow.
My sister is a worrier, she called the hospital who told her to get her *** in now. They induced her and in the end she had a C-section because of the risk to the baby.
Baby started pooing vblood, 5 different doctors said not to worry. In the end the last one threatened to send her to the hospital but there would be a 6 hour wait. She called his bluff and went.
Turns out the baby is allergic to milk and was bleed because her sides are being eaten away.
Clearly this has made my sister worse, she no long trusts anyone and is suffering postnatal depress quite badly.
My sister was recently pregnant. She developed a rash on her neck and shoulder and went to the doctor. She had read online that it could be related to kidney issues which are a risk to the unborn baby. Doctor sent her home saying anything kidney related would turn her skin yellow.
My sister is a worrier, she called the hospital who told her to get her *** in now. They induced her and in the end she had a C-section because of the risk to the baby.
Baby started pooing vblood, 5 different doctors said not to worry. In the end the last one threatened to send her to the hospital but there would be a 6 hour wait. She called his bluff and went.
Turns out the baby is allergic to milk and was bleed because her sides are being eaten away.
Clearly this has made my sister worse, she no long trusts anyone and is suffering postnatal depress quite badly.