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Old 09 October 2014, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Thing is, one of the convicted ones has admitted that he lied under the oath before. He said to the court that his lawyer told him to do so. The lie was that he pleaded not guilty.
I expect it won't be the last lie that the court hears in this case.
Old 09 October 2014, 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
The money comment was a flippant one tbh

The point I was making is that I have been around couples long enough to know that couples sometimes stay together/attracted to each other for very personal and complicated reasons

Often I have said to my wife, on the drive home from a dinner party "why on earth is <insert name> with that **** <insert name>

The fact is that sometimes <insert name> actually likes the way the are treated, i.e belittled, shouted at, controlled, told what to do or wear etc etc maybe because they have low self esteem and self confidence

<insert name> can be either sex, I make no distinction
I agree with above.

Maybe Anni knew he was gay and enjoyed the dynamic -who knows, people are strange creatures
Umm not sure in this murder case. That's because Anni's sister said in a recent TV programme that Anni called her in a very unhappy state just before leaving for her honeymoon and said that she had something to tell her, which she would; after she got back. The sister was saying that she feels guilty that she didn't try hard enough to ask her more, or Anni could still have been alive. Now some may think that if she knew about him being gay before honeymoon, then why did she fly out with him? Well, may be she saw some stuff on his iPad or something, which made her doubt him. But as it wasn't concrete enough, she thought she'd give the honeymoon a chance. But then his cover blew over at honeymoon, and he had no choice but to remove her or get grassed and get disowned by his parents. May be?

I do agree that people are strange creatures. There must be some straight women who might like to marry gay men because it gives them a buzz. I think a straight man will be more inclined to marry a lesbian for sexually exciting reasons than a straight woman marrying a gay man.
Old 09 October 2014, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
I expect it won't be the last lie that the court hears in this case.
Me, too.
Old 29 October 2014, 12:35 PM
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Oh dear. It's not looking too good for him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-relevant.html
Old 29 October 2014, 12:47 PM
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You'd have to wonder why she'd gone with this guy at all, I mean she must have suspected his sexual leaning.
Anyway, I don't think he's paying for gugulethu site seeing tour
Old 29 October 2014, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
You'd have to wonder why she'd gone with this guy at all, I mean she must have suspected his sexual leaning.
Anyway, I don't think he's paying for gugulethu site seeing tour
Well he was loaded and very 'eligible', especially for her given the ethnicity thing. That sounds racist but I don't mean it that way.
Old 29 October 2014, 07:18 PM
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'The German Master was told his spanking evidence was not relevant'
Old 29 October 2014, 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
'The German Master was told his spanking evidence was not relevant'
Hang on, was he having an affair with Max Mosley
Old 30 October 2014, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Dingdongler
'The German Master was told his spanking evidence was not relevant'
The judge was just being sadistic.
Old 30 October 2014, 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
Hang on, was he having an affair with Max Mosley
Max is no bender.
Old 30 October 2014, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Max is no bender.
He was into a bit of ze spanky spanky from ze master race though.
Old 30 October 2014, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
Well he was loaded and very 'eligible', especially for her given the ethnicity thing. That sounds racist but I don't mean it that way.
Whoever thinks this sounds racist is an idiot. You thought that it may sound it; you had no need to. He was very eligible.

Ethnicity and culture of the couple are relevant in this case on societal level regardless of it being relevant enough to the court whose focus is on the charge- whether Dewani orchestrated the murder.

Duncan says that Anni should have seen the signs before marriage, correct. But the boy could have lingered her on with the Indian culture ethic of 'no intimacy before marriage'. It's possible that this is what Anni experienced with him. She still was very impressed by his pretty face, educated waffle and his wealthy status, so she thought she'd wait for her Prince Charming until after marriage. As she was Westernised to a point, she, of course, felt frustrated with him while dating hence the rows. But she could have been relying on the 'no intimacy before marriage' Indian bullsh7t he was giving to her, and ended up marrying the gay man.

He has said now boldly in the court that he's a Bi, which is a lie. He is clearly gay. Again, due to the culture and taboos his ethnicity imposed on him, he wasn't able to say that openly to his parents and instead he went ahead marrying a girl, killing her and ruining the lives of her loved ones forever. We know why he's now giving the Bi thing to court, anyway. Now anyone who is interested in this case due to the twisted bedroom details of Dewani and his prostitute need to go back reading the Sun. Judge has told- "Move along, there's nothing to see here".

I'm glad the video is out. He's a cold blooded brutal murderer- simple as. Coward, selfish, heartless and a very manipulative evil man, who'd do anything and harm anyone to get his pleasures with keeping two faces to the world at the same time. Hope court takes the evidences against him seriously and nails him prim and proper.

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Old 30 October 2014, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
He's a cold blooded brutal murderer- simple as. Coward, selfish, heartless and a very manipulative evil man, who'd do anything and harm anyone to get his pleasures with keeping two faces to the world at the same time. Hope court takes the evidences against him seriously and nails him prim and proper.
Don't you feel though, the longer this trial goes on the more the prosecution evidence looks flimsy and circumstantial?

Based on the evidence submitted so far, I think Dewani could go free on the assumption he is either guilty or not and there is no middle ground like in the Pistorius case.
Old 30 October 2014, 04:50 PM
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Specific maybe not

But why on earth would he be even in the same room as Tongo if he'd previously run for his life from him?

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Old 24 November 2014, 08:50 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-30169797



Could walk Scott free
Old 24 November 2014, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Specific maybe not

But why on earth would he be even in the same room as Tongo if he'd previously run for his life from him?
The prosecution has to prove him guilty of course and it's my guess they have made a total hash of their case, plus Dewani has some expensive lawyers.
Old 26 November 2014, 08:34 PM
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The trial is adjourned until 8th December while the judge considers the defence dismissal application.

I'd be surprised if Dewani doesn't walk free when the judge does makes her decision.
Old 08 December 2014, 12:49 PM
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As predicted...http://news.sky.com/story/1387897/sh...-is-thrown-out
Old 08 December 2014, 02:47 PM
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How incredibly fortunate the sound on the video wasn't working.!?!!!!!

- still he can drop the mad act now, forever
Old 08 December 2014, 03:30 PM
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My heart reaches out to the victim's family.
Old 08 December 2014, 03:34 PM
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yes, looks like he has dodged a bullet


unlike his poor wife
Old 08 December 2014, 04:49 PM
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I doubt this will be the end of it, her family will take out a private prosecution no doubt.

Not sure if they can do that here or whether they must do it in SA.
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I don't believe for a moment that he is actually innocent.
Old 08 December 2014, 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by tony de wonderful
I don't believe for a moment that he is actually innocent.
The Judge was left with no other options under the circumstances.

The old adage "Don't tell me what you know, tell me what you can prove" comes to mind.
Old 08 December 2014, 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Mouser
The Judge was left with no other options under the circumstances.

The old adage "Don't tell me what you know, tell me what you can prove" comes to mind.
Yeah true.
Old 08 December 2014, 07:35 PM
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Apparently the prosecution handling of the case was shambolic.
I suspect a legacy of the pre-apartheid system where, with a coloured defendant, the prosecution simply had to turn up
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