RS_Matt

I'm not my wife.

People need to read my posts more carefully before rushing to point score to impress Thomas.

thenewgalaxy

Eh?

RS_Matt

She paid for a passenger ride at Elvington, there was 2 Atoms there and she went in the quickest. I drove a Lambo Gallardo and though I appreciated the torque (every gear was 2nd!), rail like handling and unbelievable brakes I too did not enjoy my experience.

She treated me to a driving experience as a b'day treat and it felt like I was being judged. "You're too hard on the brakes, you're too hard on the brakes!!!"

RS_Matt

Just be yourselves.

thenewgalaxy

I took a base spec Atom out back in 2011 and it was absolutely bloody awesome, closest thing to a no-compromise single-seater racing car you can kind of go down to the shops and buy (With no disrespect to Caterhams and the like).

RS_Matt

A lad off SN took me out in my car once and that was the most scared I've ever been, I thought I was going to die.

I kid you not when he entered a corner 50mph faster than I've ever entered a corner.

If you could bottle the fear I felt there'd be no problems in the Middle East.

RS_Matt

Basically word for word what she said when she climbed out.

I've had the car 6 years and it's staying! Chance of hitting 11's with a 330hp Newage WRX gives unbelievable motivation. It'll certainly raise a few eyebrows. It's more a personal thing now though than proving the doubters and STI fan boys wrong, I need to do this for myself. Kinda like Rocky 3.

F1 CJE UK

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Why is that? So you need sti sticker on the fogs and crap brembo brakes to have a "performance car"????

ditchmyster

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Exactly, I'd say the more you plan on doing to a car the less point there is in starting with an STI, the only thing they have that's worth keeping is the gearbox and that's only if it's a DCCD as the earlier ones break too, so your effectively paying an extra £5k just for the box as you'll end up junking almost everything else if your after big power, so may as well start with the cheapest car/shell you can find.

I am sure just as many 2.0L STI engines fail as 2.0L WRX engines, so rebuild is always going to be somewhere in the cost, I'd sooner start out with a fresh forged motor than a thrashed 60k+ STI one and same goes for the gearbox.

Especially as like I said on the other thread, these cars are OLD now.

ditchmyster

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And before you start Your car is the perfect example of what I'm talking about, what does it stand you at all in?

I'm guessing at around £20k and now if you want to take it any further your looking at forged engine and while it's out may as well have the gearbox checked and refreshed.

thenewgalaxy

If you're just chucking four figures at your car though, the STI makes a lot more sense imo.

Most of the serious Impreza nuts on here will throw thousands at their cars trying to improve or customise them - I have done so with both of mine.

Just depends on your point of view and I'm with the potato ******* on this one.

ditchmyster

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To a degree you're right if your looking at just a bit of an upgrade, but I honestly believe now that these cars are all old you're buggered anyway, between dodgy syncro's, knocking suspension, refurbishing calipers and new discs, cambelts, wheel bearings ect,ect your as well starting off with just a shell these days if your a modder and going to end up spending £10k plus.

thenewgalaxy

Totally, two to three grand and a canny eye for a bargain can make a "reliable" 400bhp car of any 2.0 STI and give it the brakes and suspension to cope.

There are good cars out there even teenage ones it's just that you'll pay a premium to get someone to part with one.

Would love to buy a shell and build a car from the ground up but I don't have the time. 2.33 Legacy Wagon with STI running gear and full leather interior would be awesome!

Karl_mac_

Manufacturers have quickly worked out that throwing an extra 50hp and a bigger brake servo at a car is the quickest/easiest/cheapest way to speed, which is why the extreme weight saving measures are only used on 918/P1

ditchmyster

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But the STI will cost £3/5k more in the beginning so by the time you've spent another £3/4k you could easily be £12k out of pocket for your 400bhp, alternatively spend £9k wisely on a £3k WRX and you'd have one a hell of a machine.

Horses for courses.

RS_Matt

<<<@!1!@>>>


My Newage WRX bought and built on a budget hits 0-60 in 4 seconds and has a recently timed 0-60 foot quicker than Big Arf's old car.


It'll do the 1/4 quicker than an B7 RS4.

It's light enough not to need Brembos and is well within the torque tolerances not to need a heavier stronger box.

If anything goes on my WRX it will be far cheaper to replace than on an STI. To be honest I'm struggling to see what benefit an STI would give me over the WRX, certainly not faster 1/4 times at the same power levels. Don't get me started on the MPG difference.

That said my Car is now closer to being an STI than WRX lol, especially styling wise.

RS_Matt

Can't you quote people and post a youtube link in the same post?

fat-thomas

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it depends what you want from the car and your knowledge of imprezas.
your estimates are probably correct as is the forged engine part.
I know the limits of the newage sti lump so I haven't pushed mine beyond them.
as you say theses cars are ten plus years old and have to be maintained and consumable parts replaced.
modifying them is an expensive and ultimately pointless exercise but it's a hobby of mine and luckily I can do 99% of the work myself.
I still don't see the point of aiming for a target with a wrx if it means stripping out interiors adding plastic windows or whatever extreme measures are needed to reach 11 secs as I suspect what actually is needed is more bhp.
this is the wrxs problem 350 is ultimately the running gears limit, where as you have 100 plus more bhp to play with on sti standard internals. along with a gearbox that will take the extra power and strain of launches needed on the strip.

RS_Matt

I suppose most tuning addicts are going to want to push 350 in a WRX and 450 in an STI (fast cars at those levels respectively)so if making a car 100KG lighter without making too many compromises restores a bit of reliability (clutch/brakes/gearbox) then why not?

Bucket seats, battery, spare wheel/jack, front bumper bar will knock 70kg straight off the bat. Aircon and ancillaries removal and temporary STI spoiler removal combined with the weight saving of decats etc will rush you towards the magical 100kg mark.

RS_Matt

What power would a full fat Newage STI need to hit 12.6?

fat-thomas

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at a rough guess id say near 400 bhp.
its not all about weight or all about power either.
yes the newage sti is heavier but its only slight in the grand scheme of things as the wrx is hardly light weight.
the wrx may be slightly faster too 60 but this is due to one factor only....the ratios. the wrx can do it in 2 changes where as the sti needs to grab third.
once into third the sti is far faster over a standing 1/4.
i dont get how you think a slight weight reduction will save your gearbox. the car is still very heavy and to achieve a sub 11 second time you are going to have to jump off the clutch and this shock is what will ultimately kill the box.
you obvioulsly arent too interested in it being a dedicated drag car otherwise you wouldnt have added weight making it look like an sti so already you are compromising the car in my opinion.
but even if you removed these parts i doubt you have the power to achieve the time anyway.

ditchmyster

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I'm gradually up-rating things as and when required, I have had a look around at replacing the car recently but there is nothing that floats my boat and also not much that can do what my WRX Wagon can unless I start thinking about getting £10k plus out, (which I don't have) even to swap for something smaller and nippy I am looking at somewhere around £3k, to be honest I would rather spend that money on the WRX over a long period of time and take it to around the 330bhp mark. I don't much enjoy the drag strip after my first ever run last weekend, I think it's pretty boring TBH and much prefer track and sprint, so I won't be doing that again.

Quick spool and mid-range drivability are the things I enjoy so I shall be concentrating on the handling with some more new bushes and maybe a thicker rear roll bar if one comes up cheap, wouldn't mind an ALK for my birthday either.

Think I might even flog the Type R shell and some parts I have for it as I doubt I'll ever do anything with it now.

fat-thomas

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this is pretty much what i have done, the brakes suspension etc were mostly replaced due to the original parts failing mostly due to age.
i got the alk arbs drop links and coilovers as a package from scooby world which improved the car no end.
im with you on drag strips, ive done it and it does nothing for me either just a lot of stress on the car for not much enjoyment but i get some people love it.

RS_Matt

I didn't think it, just posed the question. General consensus so far points to it helping the box, I'm cynical myself not knowing the exact forces exerted on a box or what causes them to fail besides torque. Hope it does though.

TBH Tubbs I want a Subaru Impreza to cross the line at an eyebrow raising time not especially a Subaru drag car making AF sweat if you get my drift.

Another thing for me getting a time Tommy is I can log on online and compare my speed with other marques. It's like a safe mature form of racing.

My favourite car as a child was the Ferrari Testarossa, it's some feeling to now know my car would obliterate one.

TBH Tom, you thought 12.9 was well beyond my car, I don't think 11.9 is impossible.

fat-thomas

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anythings possible but it becomes a point where taking bits of and hope just doesnt cut it.
bhp is needed and you are at the limit of your internals.
your car is never going to be lightweight and launching the car is where the stress is coming from to break the box id say.

RS_Matt

I'm the other way, I don't even like spirited drives, all it does is throw brake dust everywhere, risks crashing and wears tyres. Wheel bearing issues?

The WRX for me is all about the launch and feeling acceleration. 6 years of constant launches from traffic lights and junctions in 1st to 2nd to the speed limit has given me total confidence on the strip.

fat-thomas

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everyone is different and if the truths known i just like messing with the car as it gives you satisfaction building/modding something yourself.

i know loads of people love the strip but its not something i enjoy, that said i like to watch it as i live very close to pod.

RS_Matt

Someone on here posted that because there's no backrest seat on a bike you don't really feel body acceleration, you rely on pressure in your ears for the sensation or something along those lines.

Not good for ASDA either.

I beat the 0-60 foot of all but 1 bike at the drag strip last Sunday and that's where you feel the g's the most!

fat-thomas

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agreed

Maz

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