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Old 20 October 2014, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
So children, disabled and unemployed are going to have '**** off' ..they're on their own?
This place gets madder by the day
I just keep my fingers crossed that Scabbynet is a relatively niche group and as such isn't representative of the general population.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Good to see you showing the spirit of William Pooley ... BTW he's worth 10 of you.

You have some truly disgusting views
Attack me, not my views..isn't that your way, little man?
Old 20 October 2014, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Attack me, not my views..isn't that your way, little man?
Play the man, not the game.
Old 20 October 2014, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Attack me, not my views..isn't that your way, little man?
No I'm attacking your views. They are a fairly selfish and shallow set of beliefs though, so it's difficult not to end up attacking them without pointing that out.
Old 20 October 2014, 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by shytorque
NO we stop letting them in though,
born here we will look after obviously.
Stop letting all manner of sh*te in to bleed us dry!!!
It's not the people that come here that are 'bleeding us dry'. On the whole they are making an enormous contribution to our economy.
Old 20 October 2014, 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
No I'm attacking your views. They are a fairly selfish and shallow set of beliefs though, so it's difficult not to end up attacking them without pointing that out.
"No it's not, No I'm not, No it won't...squawk...."
Old 20 October 2014, 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
It's not the people that come here that are 'bleeding us dry'. On the whole they are making an enormous contribution to our economy.
Evidence?

And don't forget the drain on the health service, education, homes, infrastructure, benefits, and JOBS!!!
Old 20 October 2014, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
It's not the people that come here that are 'bleeding us dry'. On the whole they are making an enormous contribution to our economy.

The ones that come to work yes....
Too many coming here just for the NHS Housing etc etc though adding nothing to the country.

Shut the Bloody Gates.....
Old 20 October 2014, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by daviee
Sad thing is that the funding in the US it is for a hidden agenda if some cancer cure were found they would be rich people benefiting as well as sick people. The drugs, pills or treatment would be costly in the first few years to cash in or as they call it getting their funding back and then some. The US is a business end of, nothing for nothing.
Perhaps true, but still doesn't change the fact that despite sums of money being ploughed into research over there that absolutely dwarf what we could ever afford here, with or without foreign-aid spending, they still haven't come up with a cure.
Old 20 October 2014, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by shytorque
The ones that come to work yes....
Too many coming here just for the NHS Housing etc etc though adding nothing to the country.

Shut the Bloody Gates.....
Don't need to shut the gates !!

the horse has well and truly bolted, there isn't nearly enough cash for the 'indigenous'
Old 20 October 2014, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by markjmd
Perhaps true, but still doesn't change the fact that despite sums of money being ploughed into research over there that absolutely dwarf what we could ever afford here, with or without foreign-aid spending, they still haven't come up with a cure.
I think the reality of the matter is they'll never actually 'cure' cancer. The detection and treatment will improve dramatically, which will reduce the mortality rates but I don't think we'll ever be rid of cancer.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
It's not just foreign aid that is wasting the money, it's an issue here with the NHS. Our local hospital is 10 minutes away from Gatwick Airport. According to a nurse friend who works there they are inundated with sick people who travel here to use our health service. They are getting off the plane half dead, getting straight into a taxi, and going to the hospital. A few weeks later when they are better they get back in taxi straight to the airport and fly home.
That's nothing. A friend of mine got married in the felbridge hotel on Saturday. They all, including my brother and sister in law stayed there overnight but struggled to get breakfast in the morning. Gatwicks temporary immigration housing was full, so the hotel was overtaken by immigrants. They were all taking armfuls of free breakfast to the point where paying guests were made to stand and wait.

But there isn't a problem with immigration, according to those who never see it.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:23 PM
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Any of em look like they might have bit of a fever. ?
Old 20 October 2014, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
It's not the people that come here that are 'bleeding us dry'. On the whole they are making an enormous contribution to our economy.
I'm sorry you live in cloud cuckoo land. Come and spend the day with me, I'll show you reality. I'll show you 20-30 people who are taking thousands and thousands from our economy and sending it home without a care in the world.

Are you really naive enough to think that immigrants come here to help the UK rather than for their own agenda?

I think you need to travel a little further afield than your little quaint village.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
Any of em look like they might have bit of a fever. ?
Lol. I don't think anyone could see their faces as the plates were piled so high.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
But there isn't a problem with immigration, according to those who never see it.
And of course, those who proclaim to see it believe immigrants are bleeding the country dry it. As I've said before, somewhere between the 2 extremes lies the truth.
Old 20 October 2014, 09:37 PM
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Think you'll need to qualify that kwik, I mean are they working on the black?
Old 20 October 2014, 09:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
It's not the people that come here that are 'bleeding us dry'. On the whole they are making an enormous contribution to our economy.
Deluded
Old 20 October 2014, 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
And of course, those who proclaim to see it believe immigrants are bleeding the country dry it. As I've said before, somewhere between the 2 extremes lies the truth.
There are those that contribute, probably 1 in 10. Even that 1 in 10 are here purely to line their own pockets and take advantage of a bend-over-backwards society. Lefty ******* that refuse to believe their token immigrant in their village could remotely be like that are to blame. For those who say should we ignore all the needy in other countries, we'll let me put it this way. Would you allow your kids to starve because you are instead feeding your neighbours children?.

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Old 20 October 2014, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by shytorque
The ones that come to work yes....
Too many coming here just for the NHS Housing etc etc though adding nothing to the country.

Shut the Bloody Gates.....
Originally Posted by neil-h
And of course, those who proclaim to see it believe immigrants are bleeding the country dry it. As I've said before, somewhere between the 2 extremes lies the truth.
Was watching channel 4 earlier, Pariac o'brian was asking the locals of Thanet. ( on the beach ) what they thought the proportion of johnny foreigner was in town.

Most of them were 6O to 70 percent out.


Mr Ukipper did however get it right...
Old 20 October 2014, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
There are those that contribute, probably 1 in 10. Even that 1 in 10 are here purely to line their own pockets and take advantage of a bend-over-backwards society.
Lefty ******* that refuse to believe their token immigrant in their village could remotely be like that are to blame.
OK, what would happen if we sent all the immigrants home?
Almost certainly a massive recession

Can't believe how much of the UKIP BS people buy

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Originally Posted by dpb
Was watching channel 4 earlier, Pariac o'brian was asking the locals of Thanet. ( on the beach ) what they thought the proportion of johnny foreigner was in town.

Most of them were 6O to 70 percent out.


Mr Ukipper did however get it right...
9%
Old 20 October 2014, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
There are those that contribute, probably 1 in 10. Even that 1 in 10 are here purely to line their own pockets and take advantage of a bend-over-backwards society. Lefty ******* that refuse to believe their token immigrant in their village could remotely be like that are to blame. For those who say should we ignore all the needy in other countries, we'll let me put it this way. Would you allow your kids to starve because you are instead feeding your neighbours children?.
But this isn't even remotely the case
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Nearly
Old 20 October 2014, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
OK, what would happen if we sent all the immigrants home? Almost certainly a massive recession
What if we actually interviewed them before we sent them home and found out if they contributed to the UK?
What if we did the same on the way in, and those that had no evidence to show how they would contribute were turned back around?

As a percentage what is your estimate on how many immigrants are either
A) Legal
B) Paying taxes
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
But this isn't even remotely the case
The fact you would even question this shows you have no idea what is going on in the UK.

What is the average amount of time it takes for an immigrant to get a national insurance number?

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If we do that, really we should give them back their paid tax
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Originally Posted by Kwik
What if we actually interviewed them before we sent them home and found out if they contributed to the UK?
What if we did the same on the way in, and those that had no evidence to show how they would contribute were turned back around?

As a percentage what is your estimate on how many immigrants are either
A) Legal
B) Paying taxes
In my experience 100% but my sample size only a few hundred. You?
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
In my experience 100% but my sample size only a few hundred. You?
I live next to one of the biggest airports in the UK. What do you think?
You need to slum it for a bit, preferably before the next general election.

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Old 20 October 2014, 10:11 PM
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Martin - how do you justify the health tourism?

I don't mind immigrants at all (if they work and pay their way), but people holidaying just to use the NHS isn't acceptable.


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