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Old 02 November 2014 | 06:51 PM
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It's not all about BHP, a 2.0 WRC car is no more than 350bhp and 0-60 on tarmac is under 3.0 secs and about 1200kg It's torque that does the job.
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It's not all about BHP, a 2.0 WRC car is no more than 350bhp and 0-60 on tarmac is under 3.0 secs and about 1200kg It's torque that does the job.
Exactly and they only cost about £300,000 right? :-)
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Originally Posted by wms-racing
It's not all about BHP, a 2.0 WRC car is no more than 350bhp and 0-60 on tarmac is under 3.0 secs and about 1200kg It's torque that does the job.
Torque, transmission and properly aggressive anti lag/launch control.
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Originally Posted by Maz
Torque, transmission and properly aggressive anti lag/launch control.
Transmission plays a huge part, with flat shift etc.
It would be interesting to compare a lower powered car with good spool and torque v's a 600bhp big turbo car from 0-60. From 30-50 or 50-70 a would think it would be alot better, but 0-60 is a differnt thing.
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Imagine a classic with 300 odd brake and 450-500 of torque ! Now that would be Awsome !!
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Wasn't John Felstead once running around 380bhp, but over 500ftlb of torque?

Also a new M sport Fiesta is £400k

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You can have too much torque v grip for a 0-60 too, Arf's old 700 bhp+ STI ran at York a few weeks back and I was posting quicker take-offs with less than half the power as his was spinning in the first 3 gears. (my quickest 0-60 foot 1.88 Arf's old car 1.98) I was only 0.9secs from him at the 200m 1/8 mark. At this point though I was doing 85mph and he 105mph

I think I could have got my 0-60 down well below 4secs too if I'd parked in line before the last run and not in a muddy field. ...and JGlanza, MickeyWRX and Fat-Thomas say I launched like a decrepit grandad or words to that effect.

TBH I have been to the drag races 3 times with a different level of tune each time. 0-60 was recorded on the first two visits - with 280/250 I recorded a 0-60 of 5.5 secs, with 295/260 I recorded a 4.5 secs and a few weeks back the timing for 0-60 wasn't available but with 333/307 I'm guessing bang on 4 secs.

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another post mentioning me,I said no such thing,as usual its in your mind.
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another post mentioning me.
You never miss a post so just a little something for my fan club!
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Love the way Big Arf's old car sounds, the Turbo on mine is silent. ...and yes Thomas you can hear a Turbo spool from 40 yards away.


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Your 60' times aren't as awesome as you think they are Matt.

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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Your 60' times aren't as awesome as you think they are Matt.

It's all about the reaction times.
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Any idea what would hawk with 400/420 and 500/500 do ?
4 and 3,5?
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
It's all about the reaction times.
Reaction times don't mean ****.

Your 60' is slower than mine.

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Originally Posted by beliblisk
Any idea what would hawk with 400/420 and 500/500 do ?
4 and 3,5?
Probably 3.8 and 3.8 unless you get wider wheels. Then 3.5
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Reaction times don't mean ****.

Your 60' is slower than mine.

Not if I had better tyres and wasn't dumb enough to park in thick mud before a run. Reaction times just let you know your (mine in this case) lack of brains isn't down to going senile. How do you know 1.740 isn't your reaction?

Hey Micky check this out - http://subaru.co.uk/news/new-coswort...eza-sti-cs400/

0-60 3.7 secs and a 1/4 of 12.75 Terminal 107mph

Does his hint that our 0-60's are sub 4 secs?

My 1/4 is 12.68 with terminal of 104mph. Surely that means I'm making the time up in the 0-60 region??? Can I seriously be hitting 3.6secs in a WRX PPP?

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Not if I had better tyres and wasn't dumb enough to park in thick mud before a run. Reaction times just let you know your (mine in this case) lack of brains isn't down to going senile. How do you know 1.740 isn't your reaction?

Hey Micky check this out - http://subaru.co.uk/news/new-coswort...eza-sti-cs400/

0-60 3.7 secs and a 1/4 of 12.75 Terminal 107mph

Does his hint that our 0-60's are sub 4 secs?

My 1/4 is 12.68 with terminal of 104mph. Surely that means I'm making the time up in the 0-60 region??? Can I seriously be hitting 3.6secs in a WRX PPP?
I "think" Straightliners record the 60'. I'll ask.

Dunno if it hint's that they are, I wouldn't like to say. All I know is that I can do over 50mph, indicated, in my car in 2nd gear at around 5.5/6K rpm.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
I "think" Straightliners record the 60'. I'll ask.

Dunno if it hint's that they are, I wouldn't like to say. All I know is that I can do over 50mph, indicated, in my car in 2nd gear at around 5.5/6K rpm.
It'd be nice to know, I've just posted the query on a more technically minded Subaru site.

I may have mentioned it above but I know when I got 0-60's timed at York I did 5.5 secs with 280/270 then 4.5 secs with 295/265. Ran with 333/307 last time but the 0-60 timing feature wasn't available. Logic states with an even bigger step up in power/torque I'd knock another second off.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I've just posted the query on a more technically minded Subaru site.
Well you didn't post it on 22b, so god knows where you have asked.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Well you didn't post it on 22b, so god knows where you have asked.
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Admin says 3.4 secs.
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Oops, got a bit excited just then, shouted the wife over and everything then suddenly had to say "no it doesn't matter babe."

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Getting some varied times on the 0-60 calculators. Most common result still points to my original claim of 4 secs flat though :/

3.97 secs - http://www.digitalcorvettes.com/foru...d.php?t=111200
3.99 secs - http://www.wallaceracing.com/0-60_equation.php
4.02 secs - http://www.assassinracing.com/tech/0-60calc.html
4.02 secs - http://www.060calculator.com/
4.03 secs - http://measurespeed.com/zero-to-sixt...calculator.php
4.70 secs - http://www.autosnout.com/0-60-Calculator.php
4.84 secs - http://www.angelfire.com/alt2/crx/

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With a heat soaked engine you will lose a lot of the top end (higher speed) power. How long between runs was the wait and did you use ice to cool the engine? Heat soak won't affect the first 1/8th as much as the last 1/8th.
Ahh!

Wondered why I always started off with a 14.1 @110 then finished with a 12.9 @102 etc, it's driven me mad for yonks.
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Originally Posted by mickywrx
Your 60' times aren't as awesome as you think they are Matt.

Sorry for the spam but using this reasonably accurate chart Andy is clocking a 0-60 of 1.47 secs.

It does estimate his 142.5 mph 1/8 at 146 mph though. So circa 1.50 secs maybe a truer time.
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Originally Posted by Rob Day
Wasn't John Felstead once running around 380bhp, but over 500ftlb of torque?

Also a new M sport Fiesta is £400k

Rob
Last years spec I had 473BHP and 540ftlb at 2BAR on Surrey Rolling Road's rollers.

This year I have a slightly different spec Twin Scroll turbo built by Owen Developments again. I haven't had it on SRR yet but I would expect based on the info I have that it will be about 485BHP and 510lbft when put on their rollers, but I am only running 1.8BAR at peak torque and 1.55BAR at Peak Power to produce that.

Owen now offer a stock position GT35 size turbo, which is what Graeme from Whiteline and Fred had on their cars in the sprint series this year. They are producing at least 180BHP more than I have.


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