Save the Children staff furious over ‘global legacy’ award for Tony Blair
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In your opinion which is not fact despite what your ego tells you!
Whereas your 'it would have happened anyway' (well actually it's 'it would of (sic) happened anyway' according to you
) statement is based on you being an apologist and a bit of a egotistical ****!
Where have I tried to rewrite history? You made a statement that is clearly nonsense and I suggested otherwise. If I had said the illegal invasion of Iraq was a roaring success... that would be rewriting history. Pull me up all you want, but don't stoop to putting words in my mouth that I have clearly not said!
Whereas your 'it would have happened anyway' (well actually it's 'it would of (sic) happened anyway' according to you
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Where have I tried to rewrite history? You made a statement that is clearly nonsense and I suggested otherwise. If I had said the illegal invasion of Iraq was a roaring success... that would be rewriting history. Pull me up all you want, but don't stoop to putting words in my mouth that I have clearly not said!
I can't see what logic you are following
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Agreed, and it's given birth to Islamism which is a by-product of Islam which led to and was born out of poverty, ignorance and tribalism. They're not, in my view, independent of one another, rather they're corrosively symbiotic.
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So no matter how unlikely your scenario was, you are calling my argument, which is based upon the facts as they were at the time 'bollocks' and 'apologist'?
Kind of difficult to argue against that kind of pigheadedness
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Martin, when you learn to stop confusing your opinion with fact then we can have a sensible discussion. Until then this is pointless. I am genuinely unsure whether you are deliberately misinterpreting the angle of the discussion here or whether you have developed a 'thick' gene like half of the posters here!
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Martin, when you learn to stop confusing your opinion with fact then we can have a sensible discussion. Until then this is pointless. I am genuinely unsure whether you are deliberately misinterpreting the angle of the discussion here or whether you have developed a 'thick' gene like half of the posters here!
My point (again), the US were going to invade Iraq regardless. That really isn't speculative, it's the logical argument based upon the politics of the US in the early 2000s. Not to mention statements by senior neo-con members of the Bush administration.
Amongst the neo-cons Blair was actually quite unpopular as he was seen as someone slowing down the invasion,. The most clear example of this was Cheney's frustration at Blair for insisting they went through the UN. Again this isn't speculation, it is well documented fact.
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The invasion could have led to many duffernt scenarios for the future of the country. Sadly Blair and Bush were more interested in grabbing short term glory for themselves than thinking how best to approach the whole situation.
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It was Islamism that destroyed post-Saddam Iraq, Chris.
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