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Old 28 November 2014, 08:13 AM
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When i worked nights I'd finish at 6, be in bed for 6:30 and get up at 1-ish ?
Why can't he do that, get up and go straight to the cop-shop ?
Old 28 November 2014, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamie Bird
When i worked nights I'd finish at 6, be in bed for 6:30 and get up at 1-ish ?
Why can't he do that, get up and go straight to the cop-shop ?
He probably can if he can find a job with those hours... he is looking, but don't forget he has to declare he is on bail to his prospective employer and as up north the recession hasn't finished jobs are hard to come by at the best of times!
Old 28 November 2014, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gazzawrx
ok so thats just takes us back to what i've already said, if hes signing on at a police station during normal working hours then they'll see him as not looking/able to work, thats why they wont pay him...
Sigh, yes we suspect that, but that is not my question is it?
Old 28 November 2014, 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Irony is a word that comes to mind.
'Oh look how great my shares are doing, aren't I rich and wonderful'

Paraphrased form the Chip book of bollocks

Why not go and talk to that other **** Ding, you deserve each other!
Old 28 November 2014, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
A mate of mine has a son who emigrated to Spain just over 12 months ago. A few weeks ago he was arrested on suspicion of tax fraud and shipped back to the UK by the UK police whereupon he was bailed, but has to sign on at the police station between 12:00 and 14:00 every day 7 days a week.

Now I have no idea whether he is guilty or not, but I do know he has very little money and as he was extradited he has lost his job in Spain.

He has been to sign on, but has been refused benefit with no reason given other than being told he could do night work to get round the police station visit ( not sure when he is supposed to sleep but there you go).

As he has no job and no real way of getting a job given his situation and the bail conditions he has no income at all.

Is there anything else he can claim as surely they can't leave him to 'starve'?

I have suggested he seek asylum as they seem to get everything given to them, but I think that was little help really
Originally Posted by f1_fan
Sigh, yes we suspect that, but that is not my question is it?
Maybe not but at least now you know why it is the jobcentre won't pay him JSA, I'm only trying to help dude, sometimes I wonder why I bother.
Old 28 November 2014, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
Thanks for your reply, but it makes no sense. The system is the system and they know he is on bail etc. etc. He is playing by the rules. The rules just appear to be ill thought out! Anyway he has appealed their decision and now has to wait for their explanation which can take weeks apparently!
The rules are....
1. Don't break the law
2. Get a job
Seems pretty simple to most.

Have you got any trees he could cut down for you?
Old 29 November 2014, 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
The rules are....
1. Don't break the law
2. Get a job
Seems pretty simple to most.

Have you got any trees he could cut down for you?
No, but he is good with his hands so maybe I could get him to build you a car port on the 'oh so lovely' concrete slab in the 'idyllic' back yard of your 'des res' council house where your Japanese £2K banger can rot away marginally more slowly than it would if you just left it outside. I believe he isn't that expensive either so it may only cost a bit more than it would had you not been so stupid as to stop renting that nice dry garage.
Old 29 November 2014, 10:27 AM
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2...residency-test
Old 29 November 2014, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
No, but he is good with his hands so maybe I could get him to build you a car port on the 'oh so lovely' concrete slab in the 'idyllic' back yard of your 'des res' council house where your Japanese £2K banger can rot away marginally more slowly than it would if you just left it outside. I believe he isn't that expensive either so it may only cost a bit more than it would had you not been so stupid as to stop renting that nice dry garage.
Lol, those of us who work for a living rather than committing fraud or sponging off the state find it hard to part with £500 a year on a garage that's barely used.
Personally I wouldn't be so hypocritical to use people that aren't paying tax then come onto an Internet forum complaining about the state of the UK pmsl.
I think your friends next investments should be a toothbrush and some ky jelly.
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Lol, those of us who work for a living rather than committing fraud or sponging off the state find it hard to part with £500 a year on a garage that's barely used.
Maybe you should have tried a little harder at school and then you could have got a better job. Basically if you can't afford to properly look after a performance car you shouldn't have one! Just to be clear, putting a plastic over over a rust bucket in your back yard is only going to help it rot more quickly (not to mention make the area look like a fecking eyesore although I suspect your area is one of those already given your type). Anyway just posted so as you understand the mistake you've made

Originally Posted by Kwik
Personally I wouldn't be so hypocritical to use people that aren't paying tax then come onto an Internet forum complaining about the state of the UK pmsl.
Nor would I and I don't recall using anyone I know not to be paying UK tax, but in your twisted little mind you have decided what is what as usual. Hey in that case why not start another thread in Policy with that other dolt Paul about how someone who uses non taxpayers shouldn't be on Scoobynet! Have one of your little crusades and see if you can both get banned this time after coming so close last time you feckless muppet

Originally Posted by Kwik
I think your friends next investments should be a toothbrush and some ky jelly.
Thinking is not your strong point though is it Mr 'let's trap all the moisture in my already rusty sh1tbox' by covering it with a plastic sheet

Looking forward to the thread when you have to sell your car for scrap!!!
Old 29 November 2014, 12:08 PM
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Wow wild stereotyping from such a believer in equality. Are you aware of your level of hypocrisy? Or is it done on purpose?
I wish I had tried harder at school, that way I wouldn't find myself winding up someone with an expensive education paid for by mummy and daddy.
I certainly wouldn't call an Impreza a performance car lol, it's a shade above the ordinary. As for afford, well, affording a garage isn't a problem, it's justifying it although the wife gave me the green light to get it back (it looks as though it isn't being used since I gave it up) and it probably will be the choice I make. I must have missed the day at school when they taught everyone about moisture and condensation, I was probably bunking off learning about biology.
And I'm sorry, it was you that started a thread about hiring immigrants to cut down your tree and was then unable to provide a VAT number for the company you used lol. Perhaps you should stop starting threads that end up biting you on the ****?
Don't get so angry and upset, it's an Internet forum. The content of this thread is more than likely fabricated anyway.
Old 29 November 2014, 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Wow wild stereotyping from such a believer in equality. Are you aware of your level of hypocrisy? Or is it done on purpose?
Yep, done on purpose, payback if you will Touched a nerve though I see

Originally Posted by Kwik
I wish I had tried harder at school, that way I wouldn't find myself winding up someone with an expensive education paid for by mummy and daddy.
What was that you said about stereotyping LOL! State educated and then paid myself through university by working two jobs after dear old Maggie decided I should have no grant. However feel free to keep making a pr1ck of yourself by speculating on my background

Originally Posted by Kwik
I certainly wouldn't call an Impreza a performance car lol, it's a shade above the ordinary.
No I'd call yours scrap

Originally Posted by Kwik
As for afford, well, affording a garage isn't a problem, it's justifying it although the wife gave me the green light to get it back (it looks as though it isn't being used since I gave it up) and it probably will be the choice I make. I must have missed the day at school when they taught everyone about moisture and condensation, I was probably bunking off learning about biology.
Well even if you missed the lesson at school it is pretty obvious to people with a bit of brains. Ah.....

Originally Posted by Kwik
And I'm sorry, it was you that started a thread about hiring immigrants to cut down your tree and was then unable to provide a VAT number for the company you used lol. Perhaps you should stop starting threads that end up biting you on the ****?
You see this is one of your problems. You take a thread and then sprinkle it with baseless conjecture that then becomes fact in your head. It was not a case of couldn't provide a VAT number, it was a case of wouldn't provide a VAT number for the SN retards to then do what they want with. Anyway you will believe what you want to believe just like you believe Lisa and I are in some SN NSR clique....

Originally Posted by Kwik
Don't get so angry and upset, it's an Internet forum. The content of this thread is more than likely fabricated anyway.
Oh the irony!
Old 29 November 2014, 12:34 PM
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Meanwhile away from another episode of 'Kwik the Thick' and back on topic the CAB have managed to get him an appointment with a benefits specialist for next week so he should have some answers then and in the meantime he has possibly found a couple of weeks work in a warehouse who are happy to accommodate his bail arrangements so that's some positive news for him.
Old 29 November 2014, 12:51 PM
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Lol winding you up into a frenzy is like taking candy from a baby.
Glad to hear your 'friend' has finally realised that he can work for himself instead of relying on state benefits. Glad to see him paying back into society for now. Let's hope the time we shall all be paying for his accommodation in the future is as short as possible.
Old 29 November 2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Lol winding you up into a frenzy is like taking candy from a baby.
Glad to hear your 'friend' has finally realised that he can work for himself instead of relying on state benefits. Glad to see him paying back into society for now. Let's hope the time we shall all be paying for his accommodation in the future is as short as possible.
I think we both know who can wind who up the most here.... or are you forgetting just how 'offended' you got over a certain use of a certain word.... I will save that one for the future though as it will be funny to see you fully spit your dummy again one day

Anyway I would say it's been nice chatting, but it hasn't. However I do have to go now as I have to write a report this afternoon for which I will be paid handsomely enough to pay for your garage for a couple of years.

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Old 29 November 2014, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
I think we both know who can wind who up the most here.... or are you forgetting just how 'offended' you got over a certain use of a certain word.... I will save that one for the future though as it will be funny to see you fully spit your dummy again one day Anyway I would say it's been nice chatting, but it hasn't. However I do have to go now as I have to write a report this afternoon for which I will be paid handsomely enough to pay for your garage for a couple of years.
Lmao. Of course you will petal. Til next time x
Old 29 November 2014, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by f1_fan
'Oh look how great my shares are doing, aren't I rich and wonderful'

Paraphrased form the Chip book of bollocks

Why not go and talk to that other **** Ding, you deserve each other!
We actually used to have some good discussions on here regarding finance,shares etc until they got hijacked by the likes of yourself. I don't know where you invest your money or your pension fund if you have one, nor do I care, but just what is your problem with those of us who do. Or is it that you really have nothing and just can't face the fact that some others do and feel the need to slag them off. It's quite sad really.
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Originally Posted by Chip
We actually used to have some good discussions on here regarding finance,shares etc until they got hijacked by the likes of yourself. I don't know where you invest your money or your pension fund if you have one, nor do I care, but just what is your problem with those of us who do. Or is it that you really have nothing and just can't face the fact that some others do and feel the need to slag them off. It's quite sad really.
That's right, I must be jealous of you

At the end of the day you made a smart **** comment to me in this thread so I had a dig back and now you are all butt hurt.... FFS!!!

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Old 29 November 2014, 06:32 PM
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Where did I say you were jealous of me and why would I care what you have anyway? For all I know you could be worth millions. And hurt?, come on FFS, do you really believe that, nope, didn't think so.

Did like the "butt" reference though
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Theres no point arguing Chip. If you read on after his comment to you regarding how rich you are, he then says he is getting paid handsomely for some work.
For all his apparent education he certainly can't get his head around the meaning of hypocrisy.

Treat him as the clown he is .
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Originally Posted by Kwik
Theres no point arguing Chip. If you read on after his comment to you regarding how rich you are, he then says he is getting paid handsomely for some work.
For all his apparent education he certainly can't get his head around the meaning of hypocrisy.

Treat him as the clown he is .
Oh I understand hypocrisy very well, but I also understand what it takes to push your buttons hence the comment.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Where did I say you were jealous of me and why would I care what you have anyway? For all I know you could be worth millions. And hurt?, come on FFS, do you really believe that, nope, didn't think so.

Did like the "butt" reference though
What does 'Or is it that you really have nothing and just can't face the fact that some others do and feel the need to slag them off' mean then?

I also have never said that you would care what I had or didn't have. You are losing the plot here, have you been on the sauce or something?
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Oh and I forgot, a liar too .
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