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Old 02 December 2014, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
Keep yer hair on it was intended as a joke, a light hearted quip in the face of such a serious discussion. Nothing more.
And he's not actually my Lord (capitalised 'L' )
You needed one these for him.

Old 02 December 2014, 12:12 PM
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Old 02 December 2014, 01:10 PM
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Old 02 December 2014, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I have Newage JDM WRX envy.

Mappable, AVCS, strong engine, highly efficient 5 speed box, lighter with better spool and MPG. Some say better road manners for our bumpy roads.

In every way it's better than an STI.

You even prefer the dark grey WRX interior!
I see you talking alot about JDM wrx, out of interest could you tell me the exact differences between that and the UK wrx Matt ???
Old 02 December 2014, 10:12 PM
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I see you talking alot about JDM wrx, out of interest could you tell me the exact differences between that and the UK wrx Matt ???
Rear wiper and AVCS.

How the frig can't you know that?
Old 02 December 2014, 10:16 PM
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JDM / UK (WRX)

Compression ratio 9.0:1 / 8.0:1
250ps / 218ps
333nm / 292nm
AVCS / No AVCS
TD04 / TD04
Gear ratios (3.166, 1.882, 1.296, 0.972, 0.738) / (3.454, 1.947, 1.366, 0.972, 0.738) OK i did not actually memorize these
Final Drive 4.444 / 3.900
180km/h Speedo / 260km/h Speedo
Rear wiper / No rear wiper
4 pot front 2 pot rear / 4 pot front 2 pot rear
Old 02 December 2014, 10:20 PM
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Higher compression ratio of 9.0:1. too allegedly Still a **** for wanting one though
Old 02 December 2014, 10:30 PM
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I am well aware of the differences chaps, just wanted to see if Matt actually knew as he seems to rave about them.
Old 02 December 2014, 10:34 PM
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Can we please stop all this WRX vs STI rubbish. It's getting embarrassing!
Old 02 December 2014, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by joe v3sti
Can we please stop all this WRX vs STI rubbish. It's getting embarrassing!
Ahem!
Old 02 December 2014, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
JDM / UK (WRX)

Compression ratio 9.0:1 / 8.0:1
250ps / 218ps
333nm / 292nm
AVCS / No AVCS
TD04 / TD04
Gear ratios (3.166, 1.882, 1.296, 0.972, 0.738) / (3.454, 1.947, 1.366, 0.972, 0.738) OK i did not actually memorize these
Final Drive 4.444 / 3.900
180km/h Speedo / 260km/h Speedo
Rear wiper / No rear wiper
4 pot front 2 pot rear / 4 pot front 2 pot rear
Cheers Ban.

Rear fog?

Does the Newy JDM have an up-pipe cat, STI's ECU, TVG's and the 380cc (420 rated) injectors?

Don't all WRX's, save for the Hawkeye, come with a 3.166, 1.882, 1.296, 0.972, 0.738 ratio after 2003?

Are all classic gear-boxes shorter ratio'd than the Newage STI box? (shorter 1st, 4th and 5th)

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Old 04 December 2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Cheers Ban.

Rear fog?

Does the Newy JDM have an up-pipe cat, STI's ECU, TVG's and the 380cc (420 rated) injectors?

Don't all WRX's, save for the Hawkeye, come with a 3.166, 1.882, 1.296, 0.972, 0.738 ratio after 2003?

Are all classic gear-boxes shorter ratio'd than the Newage STI box? (shorter 1st, 4th and 5th)
Hi Matt

We are been owners of JDM WRX Wagon

Here is it what I know:

JDM WRX comes with Up pipe with cat

JDM WRX ECU is very similar to the JDM STI ECU,there are few differences,ROM images are different and I think they have bigger memory,which will allow you to run two fuel maps(on normal WRX ECU you can't have two fuel maps when you mapping with normal mapping tools like is EcuFlash or EcuTek,not Carberry ROM)

Injectors are 440cc on the JDM WRX

Yes JDM WRX does have too TGV

AVCS are quiet similar to JDM STI,both are Big port heads and JDM WRX using different cams and I would say they're very similar to the UK STI cams and would say,they're bit lazier cams,those cams are OK for about 500bhp,beyond that I would go with different cams at least

On gearbox front I'm not sure,we are run 4EAT(autobox) on our wagon and then we are switched to PPG

Thanks,Jura
Old 04 December 2014, 08:08 PM
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**** me this is comical... any comparison involving a WRX and an STI always seems to turn into a slanging match...

I own a WRX and will quite happily admit the STI is the better car because, in short, it is I just didn't buy one because the budget didn't allow
Old 04 December 2014, 09:14 PM
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It's become a refreshing WRX v JDM WRX debate lol.
Old 04 December 2014, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by jura11
Hi Matt

We are been owners of JDM WRX Wagon

Here is it what I know:

JDM WRX comes with Up pipe with cat

JDM WRX ECU is very similar to the JDM STI ECU,there are few differences,ROM images are different and I think they have bigger memory,which will allow you to run two fuel maps(on normal WRX ECU you can't have two fuel maps when you mapping with normal mapping tools like is EcuFlash or EcuTek,not Carberry ROM)

Injectors are 440cc on the JDM WRX

Yes JDM WRX does have too TGV

AVCS are quiet similar to JDM STI,both are Big port heads and JDM WRX using different cams and I would say they're very similar to the UK STI cams and would say,they're bit lazier cams,those cams are OK for about 500bhp,beyond that I would go with different cams at least

On gearbox front I'm not sure,we are run 4EAT(autobox) on our wagon and then we are switched to PPG

Thanks,Jura
Cheers for the info as always Jura!

Shocked about the up-pipe cat, thought that was a Euro emissions thing.
Old 05 December 2014, 06:33 PM
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Matt give over your a complete tool

Sti is better

But your wrx PPP boosting at 0.9 is better right?
Old 05 December 2014, 09:51 PM
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did fat-thomas just paypal you £20?
Old 05 December 2014, 09:54 PM
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Its a 3 cylinder wrx at that
Old 05 December 2014, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
Its a 3 cylinder wrx at that
Cylinder 3 recorded a 15% loss too!

Cylinder 1 down at 50% compression, Cylinder 3 at 15%, mud in my tyres on a damp drag-strip, SN members mocking my launch technique en masse and I still comfortably beat Newage STI's with 100bhp more grunt.

Dunx will tell you all about York headwinds!
Old 05 December 2014, 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Cylinder 3 recorded a 15% loss too!

Cylinder 1 down at 50% compression, Cylinder 3 at 15%, mud in my tyres on a damp drag-strip, SN members mocking my launch technique en masse and I still comfortably beat Newage STI's with 100bhp more grunt.

Dunx will tell you all about York headwinds!

Your hopeless
Old 05 December 2014, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by IveGotTheBug
Your hopeless
I dont think he believes a word of what he types but loves getting a rise out of people
Old 05 December 2014, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by IveGotTheBug
Your hopeless
There's irony in your post, buddy.
Old 05 December 2014, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
I dont think he believes a word of what he types but loves getting a rise out of people
What do you want?

Drag Timeslips? RE Motorsport Leak down test print-out? Footage of my launch?
Old 05 December 2014, 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by banny sti
I dont think he believes a word of what he types but loves getting a rise out of people
He's clearly not wired up right banny pal......
Old 05 December 2014, 10:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
What do you want?

Drag Timeslips? RE Motorsport Leak down test print-out? Footage of my launch?
Footage of your launch...humour me
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
What do you want?

Drag Timeslips? RE Motorsport Leak down test print-out? Footage of my launch?
What do I want? absolutely nothing at all, content with all I have in my life and have no need to prove anything to anyone over and over again
Old 05 December 2014, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by IveGotTheBug
Footage of your launch...humour me
Crikey, you're judging both me and my car before reading my progress thread?

Old 05 December 2014, 10:52 PM
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Yes I am....your ****ing stupid and running 1 bar boost after a remap in your PPP wrx what more do I need to know?
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Originally Posted by banny sti
What do I want? absolutely nothing at all, content with all I have in my life and have no need to prove anything to anyone over and over again
I like our STIvWRXvClassic banter too.
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Originally Posted by IveGotTheBug
Yes I am....your ****ing stupid
Are you suggesting I own fat-thomas?


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