8k budget new car???
03 December 2014, 04:27 PM
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Maybe i just want to reminisce a little
but no 90mph wheel spins anymore
03 December 2014, 04:37 PM
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A few people giving fwd a hard time, ie torque steer spinning etc. IMO you need to adjust your driving style and learn how to drive them properly. 
Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)
One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer
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IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer
).IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
03 December 2014, 04:51 PM
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03 December 2014, 04:53 PM
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A few people giving fwd a hard time, ie torque steer spinning etc. IMO you need to adjust your driving style and learn how to drive them properly. Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)
One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer).
IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer
).IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
03 December 2014, 04:55 PM
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Yes carnut, of course you have to adjust your driving style, but there does become a point where a front wheel drive car has too much power and unless it's got some very clever electronics you have to adjust your driving style so much a less powerful front wheel drive car will become quicker in certain circumstances.
03 December 2014, 05:05 PM
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Yes carnut, of course you have to adjust your driving style, but there does become a point where a front wheel drive car has too much power and unless it's got some very clever electronics you have to adjust your driving style so much a less powerful front wheel drive car will become quicker in certain circumstances.
03 December 2014, 05:18 PM
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Not really. Like you say, modern front wheel drive cars have better chassis now, so you have to be going pretty fast to be pushing the limits in a modern hot hatch, especially something like a newish golf gti or focus St. A WRX will tend to under steer on the limit, a bit like a front wheel drive, main benefit with awd is in the wet or when the going gets really twisty. Preferred how the power was put down in my Sierra if I'm honest, that had a 30/70 rear bias.
03 December 2014, 05:23 PM
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Not really. Like you say, modern front wheel drive cars have better chassis now, so you have to be going pretty fast to be pushing the limits in a modern hot hatch, especially something like a newish golf gti or focus St. A WRX will tend to under steer on the limit, a bit like a front wheel drive, main benefit with awd is in the wet or when the going gets really twisty. Preferred how the power was put down in my Sierra if I'm honest, that had a 30/70 rear bias.
I once smashed handbrake on one of my scoobys by not releasing it intime before going back on the power lol
03 December 2014, 05:39 PM
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A few people giving fwd a hard time, ie torque steer spinning etc. IMO you need to adjust your driving style and learn how to drive them properly. Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)
One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer).
IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
Giving it the beans mid corner for example will do this so you need to feed the throttle in a little latter. (although new diffs, revo knuckles etc are changing the game some what)One of the good things about Subaru is they are easy to get round corners and respond well to being grabbed by the scruff of the neck. Hot hatchs/fwd on the other hand require more skill and finesse (unless your exploiting lift off over steer
).IMO the more effort you put in, the more fun you get out.
p.s Have you ever noticed that there is always a couple of fwd hot hatches in the running for drivers car of the year by the different magazines along side supercars etc.
I've driven the new focus RS and I wouldn't swap it for my old car. I was quite taken by it until I went out in the rain lol
With the amount of rain we've had the last couple of years, would I **** wanna own FWD with power.
And OP hell knows what you're doing 'launching' your car to try and get off the line. My car pulls away just like any other car, sounds like you've got an issue with the car if that's really a problem.
03 December 2014, 05:53 PM
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03 December 2014, 06:00 PM
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If you want a quick pull away out of a turning because a car might be coming towards you and there's not gonna be another gap in traffic for a while,i find it best to ride clutch a little otherwise it might get a little jerky and laggy and won't get out intime
03 December 2014, 06:06 PM
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Yeah, yeah I've driven plenty of FWD performance cars and you can keep your 'feathering the throttle' argument. I'll leave FWD performance cars for the younger generation to have fun in, just like I did when I was a lad
I've driven the new focus RS and I wouldn't swap it for my old car. I was quite taken by it until I went out in the rain lol
With the amount of rain we've had the last couple of years, would I **** wanna own FWD with power.
And OP hell knows what you're doing 'launching' your car to try and get off the line. My car pulls away just like any other car, sounds like you've got an issue with the car if that's really a problem.
Have you seen topgear when clarkson drag races the r8 against a porch. R8 is 4wd and porsche rwd and unless you got the r8 just right the porche would beat it
03 December 2014, 06:09 PM
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03 December 2014, 06:32 PM
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Generally yes, no liner issues like the Volvo 5 pot. Plenty of 350+ engines running on stock internals. Many cars have clocked 100k now. Just make sure if you get one it has plenty of service history.
There are some dogs about with known history but there are plenty of good examples about.
Chap named Clayton runs a site dedicate to the MK1 - http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk
Plenty of info available. The RSOC has a very active MK1 section also.
There's also a MK1 specialist in Crewe Cheshire - he was the only other person to work on my MK1 and he treated it as if it were his own. Makes ownership very easy when you can trust a specialist.
As for performance there isn't much that comes past a decent MK1 on track, in fact they embarrass many much more expensive 'performance cars'. You can put 300+ through the front wheels you just have to adjust your driving style (as stated above) once rolling they perform very well.
Our Mk2 Focus RS had 400bhp (flywheel) and that had no issues getting the power down.
There are some dogs about with known history but there are plenty of good examples about.
Chap named Clayton runs a site dedicate to the MK1 - http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk
Plenty of info available. The RSOC has a very active MK1 section also.
There's also a MK1 specialist in Crewe Cheshire - he was the only other person to work on my MK1 and he treated it as if it were his own. Makes ownership very easy when you can trust a specialist.
As for performance there isn't much that comes past a decent MK1 on track, in fact they embarrass many much more expensive 'performance cars'. You can put 300+ through the front wheels you just have to adjust your driving style (as stated above) once rolling they perform very well.
Our Mk2 Focus RS had 400bhp (flywheel) and that had no issues getting the power down.
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03 December 2014, 07:46 PM
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Generally yes, no liner issues like the Volvo 5 pot. Plenty of 350+ engines running on stock internals. Many cars have clocked 100k now. Just make sure if you get one it has plenty of service history.
There are some dogs about with known history but there are plenty of good examples about.
Chap named Clayton runs a site dedicate to the MK1 - http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk
Plenty of info available. The RSOC has a very active MK1 section also.
There's also a MK1 specialist in Crewe Cheshire - he was the only other person to work on my MK1 and he treated it as if it were his own. Makes ownership very easy when you can trust a specialist.
As for performance there isn't much that comes past a decent MK1 on track, in fact they embarrass many much more expensive 'performance cars'. You can put 300+ through the front wheels you just have to adjust your driving style (as stated above) once rolling they perform very well.
Our Mk2 Focus RS had 400bhp (flywheel) and that had no issues getting the power down.
What is this liner problem anyway? Is it cylinder walls and if so,how is this fixed? Do people replace the liners or just get another block?
03 December 2014, 07:53 PM
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Big money for the supercharged JDM Type R's but supercharged UK Type R's are pretty common and cheap, buying an early one and converting it could be done for less than 8k maybe... Think CPL Racing do the conversion for one?
Something like this could be fun.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Honda...item51c6a40084
or this low mileage beaut.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/honda-civi...item3ced78f217
Something like this could be fun.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Honda...item51c6a40084
or this low mileage beaut.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/honda-civi...item3ced78f217
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03 December 2014, 08:08 PM
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If it were me I'd be looking at
Focus rs mk1
Integra dc5
Civic type r ep3 super charged
Integra dc2
Dare I say astra vxr
And few others which are bit outside the box.
Focus rs mk1
Integra dc5
Civic type r ep3 super charged
Integra dc2
Dare I say astra vxr
And few others which are bit outside the box.
03 December 2014, 08:15 PM
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Big money for the supercharged JDM Type R's but supercharged UK Type R's are pretty common and cheap, buying an early one and converting it could be done for less than 8k maybe... Think CPL Racing do the conversion for one?
Something like this could be fun.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2002-Honda...item51c6a40084
03 December 2014, 08:30 PM
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Seen a couple of votes for the RS200 Clio.
My advice is not to go there unless you're going to use it more on track than the road.
Being rinsed by grandads in Mondeo Diesels is not the sort of experience a "hot hatch" should offer.
My advice is not to go there unless you're going to use it more on track than the road.
Being rinsed by grandads in Mondeo Diesels is not the sort of experience a "hot hatch" should offer.
03 December 2014, 09:11 PM
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The r-sound simulator looks cool in the new ones
03 December 2014, 09:14 PM
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R26 Megane. Best all rounder I have ever owned. It replaced a 182 Trophy & was run back to back with my wifes 197 Cup & 200.
Barring some window motors not another problem across 3 years.
Barring some window motors not another problem across 3 years.
03 December 2014, 09:17 PM
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