Devon refusing smokers and obese patients routine surgery unless they quit or diet
05 December 2014, 10:51 PM
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05 December 2014, 11:02 PM
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I pity them then as there is a high probability that some will suffer conditions brought about by their vices and become a "drain" on the NHS and if you made your standpoint clear on this to these friends, maybe it's best you don't know lest you leave them to die from their self inflicted condition
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05 December 2014, 11:07 PM
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What if one was subject to abuse as a child or had mental health problems? Would they then be candidates for neglect by society or would they be worthy of help and support and treatment? If one's parents were alcoholics and smokers and gamblers or drug addicts should they be left to self-destruct owing to their 'personality flaw'? What about babies that are born addicted to heroin because their mothers were jacking-up during pregnancy? Flawed, are they?
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06 December 2014, 01:35 AM
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Would you think it was fair if any of them were denied treatment, possibly even for something unrelated to either just because they made those lifestyle choices? What if they'd never placed any burden on the NHS all their adult life, then one day needed help, would you deny that just because they were a smoker, even if there was no absolute proof smoking was the cause of needing treatment?
06 December 2014, 09:30 AM
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If someone who has paid NI all of their lives were denied treatment due to either being a smoker or being a fatty I wonder how this would stand in a court, surely they would have a case?
06 December 2014, 11:14 AM
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fao the perfect ones on here, the reason nicotine is so hard to give up is because the hit doesn't last as long as heroin, heroin is a once maybe twice a day habit, nicotine can be 20 or more small short lasting hit's per day,that's how my doctor explained it to me,
06 December 2014, 11:34 AM
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If the doc can't operate cos operation won't go well cos the patient is too fat, then what can you do
06 December 2014, 11:52 AM
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I also think that the poorest who pay very little if any into the system should get refused treatment.
And immigrants that have not lived here very long.
And ugly people.
And probably more but can't think
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