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Old 02 January 2015, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by FMJ
As with ALL of these stories it's 100% useless.

You have no idea who was the better driver, what revs the gear changes were at, how long the changes were, who had more mechanical sympathy, what condition the other car was in, if it had any problems, if the other guy just gave up a bit at one point, if they really gave it their all or pushed the car as hard as they could etc etc.

Plenty of people have booted it past me in the past. Because I couldn't be bothered to race them or because my car was cold and I was staying off boost.

Unless you are going to give the cars to a fresh driver to compare back to back with proper timing equipment and an equal amount of time in each car you may as well just go by the book figures. Or just be happy that bearing a million unknown factors in mind on that occasion for whatever reason you were faster. But it proves absolutely nothing.
This^^^


......and to be honest, who really cares?
Old 02 January 2015, 06:25 PM
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Oh dont worry i know the score
Old 02 January 2015, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
This^^^


......and to be honest, who really cares?
Every newb that's just bought a wrx apparently.
Old 02 January 2015, 06:30 PM
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I've come up against a few modded st's and astra vxr's and they were surprisingly quick and could easily keep up with me. However they were all rolling and not launching from standstill. The vxr in particular was very quick and all he had was a simple remap. I do like the rs but if I could afford a 20k car I don't think I'd get one.
Old 02 January 2015, 06:30 PM
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Oh and here we go...... The WRX v STI debate
Old 02 January 2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Oh and here we go...... The WRX v STI debate
Nobody mentioned either .the rs is better than both
Old 02 January 2015, 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by CutMasterT
I've come up against a few modded st's and astra vxr's and they were surprisingly quick and could easily keep up with me. However they were all rolling and not launching from standstill. The vxr in particular was very quick and all he had was a simple remap. I do like the rs but if I could afford a 20k car I don't think I'd get one.
Ive owned the ST as well and it does not even compare to the RS
Old 02 January 2015, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Nobody mentioned either .the rs is better than both
They did mention em, but i agree with you the RS is better
Old 02 January 2015, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Ive owned the ST as well and it does not even compare to the RS


I have had a few tear ups with some standard st's and they were all slower, but one in particular was or must of been heavily modded as he was easily keeping up..
Old 02 January 2015, 07:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Carnut
It's not all about 0-60 and who's got the most bhp, car's like the RS are about being a complete package.
(Family car that's fun for dad)
Hit the nail right on the head there mate . They are a better car .
Your old Sti may of beaten it off the lights , but as a all round car it is better.
One of my mates has one we play about on a air field when we get the opp to do so . Some times I win some times he wins . But if I could get a ford rs I would .
But I still love the subaru . It's a classic . And I love the shape of the car . Better then the bug eye . But I am now looking for a hark eye one at the mo . Just got to get the wife to let me get it . But she is not happy that I am going to spend all the cash I have saved up to get it . But 6/7k is not that much for a car u like.
If things go my way I will have it soon . Then I can turn my old wrx into a track car . I no someone told me it will take a lot to turn it into a track car but I don't want it to be the best track car out there , just put a cage into it up the brakes
And a few other things . Just need it to work as a weekend fun car .
But can not wait to get my hark eye .
One Q I would like somone to Help me with is I have been told to stay away from the 2.5 hark eye as it has a bad bottom end is that true.
Old 02 January 2015, 07:33 PM
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Sheeeet.

The new rs is a posh chavs car to me and a rusty classic is a poor chavs car, so both in the same boat if you ask me.

Sheeet, I left a RS in my 330hp newage wagon and that was not off the line, so no, they're not outstanding fast at all.
Old 02 January 2015, 07:37 PM
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Who cares how fast the RS is, anyone who has owned any RS knows its not just about how fast the RS is.
Old 02 January 2015, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Sheeeet.

The new rs is a posh chavs car to me and a rusty classic is a poor chavs car, so both in the same boat if you ask me.

Sheeet, I left a RS in my 330hp newage wagon and that was not off the line, so no, they're not outstanding fast at all.
So explain why you own up to owning a wagon
Old 02 January 2015, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by bustaMOVEs
Sheeeet.

The new rs is a posh chavs car to me and a rusty classic is a poor chavs car, so both in the same boat if you ask me.

Sheeet, I left a RS in my 330hp newage wagon and that was not off the line, so no, they're not outstanding fast at all.
Was it from a rolling start . If not from the lights
Old 02 January 2015, 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Nobody mentioned either .the rs is better than both
I did.
. They are a better all round car . But it's a ford .
Don't it come down to what you like . Some like m3/m5 . Some like subarus . Some like r32 . Some like skylines. Let's face it if we all like the same car it would be boring out there
Old 02 January 2015, 07:54 PM
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The rs it not faster no way . I have race on a air field ok he has Beaten me but I have beaten him more then he as Beaten me .
And I don't have 300 bhp I am push now 280bhp after get my Ecu done . Was at 260 but now 280 .
But I was power shifting when I was beating him . Wich I don't like doing as it can do the cluch in .
Old 02 January 2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
So explain why you own up to owning a wagon
Lol lol lol owch .
Old 02 January 2015, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayjay100
The rs it not faster no way . I have race on a air field ok he has Beaten me but I have beaten him more then he as Beaten me .
And I don't have 300 bhp I am push now 280bhp after get my Ecu done . Was at 260 but now 280 .
But I was power shifting when I was beating him . Wich I don't like doing as it can do the cluch in .
Your wasted pal, you should race cars for a living
Old 02 January 2015, 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Your wasted pal, you should race cars for a living
Only if u will be my co pilot
Old 02 January 2015, 08:00 PM
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Wrc hear we come
Old 02 January 2015, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Jayjay100
Only if u will be my co pilot
Deal, but remember im only used to a slow 360bhp RS
Old 02 January 2015, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
Deal, but remember im only used to a slow 360bhp RS
360 bhp . Ok u drive I be your co pilot
Old 02 January 2015, 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by theboy
So explain why you own up to owning a wagon
I don't anymore, I own the poor chav car now, just felt like wearing the shell suit again.

Originally Posted by Jayjay100
Was it from a rolling start . If not from the lights
Dual carrageway.
However, he had to back off really early due to the pencil brakes.

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Old 02 January 2015, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JamieJerkovic
The standard RS's aren't that great. Wait till you come up a modded one. My 3 mates have got 400bhp, 420bhp and 500bhp RS's and go like **** off a shovel and sound unreal but 1st 2nd gear is non existent
Yep I can vouch for this mate after buying one brand new then modding it up to 400bhp 520lbft Torque!

Yes they are crap from a standing start but once moving they are pretty fast, I'd have another one with no hesitation what so ever, by far the best car I've owned.
Old 02 January 2015, 08:46 PM
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I was at York Raceway a few months ago and recorded a 12.6 with 330bhp
Lad from up the road was also there in his RS and he recorded over 15 secs.

The thing is though, I crossed the line at 104mph and he crossed it at 110mph.

That's basically the top and bottom of it.

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I have owned and driven quick cars from Classic Scooby's, old ford rs, Cosworths, driven the new St and old St and also driven the RS. Always ended up back in a Scooby because I love them and always have just like the other cars I have driven but the Scooby is my favourite for different reason. Standard they are quick enough but when fettled a little you can have a real weapon like most hot hatch/quick cars. However I have recently had the odd traffic light Grand Prix and a few rolling sessions with a rs my mate has (400 bhp) and one by me that has 350bhp and there seems to be light years between both. The rs with 350bhp can't keep up off the mark or when rolling however the one with 400 is rapid it can't keep up off the mark but if we do a rolling run there is about a half car in it in my favour. It's not always about which is quicker its about how you feel about a car although I like most cars even Evo's I always end up back in a Scooby but as said if I had 25k to spend on a new car it wouldn't be a new rs but that's just choice, but I love these posts because everyone had different opinions and that's whats interesting to read. Whatever car you have or love just enjoy them safely.

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Originally Posted by Jayjay100
The rs it not faster no way . I have race on a air field ok he has Beaten me but I have beaten him more then he as Beaten me .
And I don't have 300 bhp I am push now 280bhp after get my Ecu done . Was at 260 but now 280 .
But I was power shifting when I was beating him . Wich I don't like doing as it can do the cluch in .


you just been watching born 2 race?
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Originally Posted by slimwiltaz
you just been watching born 2 race?
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I've always liked the MK1 rs too, and they can be picked up quite cheap now. However there is something about the classic Impreza that I love, yes it is old and dated but in a way that's why I like it so much, it looks great and its great fun to drive, and I haven't had to take any finance or borrow money to have one..
Some might see it as a poor mans chav car, but I like to consider myself an enthusiast who is sensible with money
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Originally Posted by CutMasterT
I've always liked the MK1 rs too, and they can be picked up quite cheap now. However there is something about the classic Impreza that I love, yes it is old and dated but in a way that's why I like it so much, it looks great and its great fun to drive, and I haven't had to take any finance or borrow money to have one..
Some might see it as a poor mans chav car, but I like to consider myself an enthusiast who is sensible with money
This is my old mint mk1 Focus RS, awesome car, wish I still had it. Looking at prices they really have hit rock bottom, but like most RS's they will soon be on the rise in a few years as more and more get written off, dont forget the mk1 FRS was built in limited numbers (4500 with only 2100 come to the UK)

http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk/in...article&id=125


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