Focus RS Vs Classic STI
02 January 2015, 09:45 PM
#61
This is my old mint mk1 Focus RS, awesome car, wish I still had it. Looking at prices they really have hit rock bottom, but like most RS's they will soon be on the rise in a few years as more and more get written off, dont forget the mk1 FRS was built in limited numbers (4500 with only 2100 come to the UK)
http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk/in...article&id=125
http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk/in...article&id=125
02 January 2015, 09:46 PM
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This is my old mint mk1 Focus RS, awesome car, wish I still had it. Looking at prices they really have hit rock bottom, but like most RS's they will soon be on the rise in a few years as more and more get written off, dont forget the mk1 FRS was built in limited numbers (4500 with only 2100 come to the UK)
http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk/in...article&id=125
http://www.focusrsbuildlist.co.uk/in...article&id=125
Awesome looking car that with an amazing spec! the fact that they can be picked up relatively cheap now is making me seriously consider one...
I actually think they look better than the MK2, I like the subtleness of them compared to the MK2's extreme look.
I haven't seen many around too, I've seen lots of Mk2's but very few MK1's
02 January 2015, 09:53 PM
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I had it on Powerstation Rollers once when I went to a Subaru RR day when it was running the standard turbo with load of bolt on mods, but the car kept spinning on the rollers and we couldn't strap it down to get a decent run.
And the guy I sold it to never had it on the rolling road either, but guessing with that spec list it was 360-380bhp!!
And the guy I sold it to never had it on the rolling road either, but guessing with that spec list it was 360-380bhp!!
02 January 2015, 10:01 PM
#64
Awesome looking car that with an amazing spec! the fact that they can be picked up relatively cheap now is making me seriously consider one...
I actually think they look better than the MK2, I like the subtleness of them compared to the MK2's extreme look.
I haven't seen many around too, I've seen lots of Mk2's but very few MK1's
I actually think they look better than the MK2, I like the subtleness of them compared to the MK2's extreme look.
I haven't seen many around too, I've seen lots of Mk2's but very few MK1's
) but prices of the MK2 are still strong, a decent one with low miles your looking at £20-24k, where as the Mk1 RS you could get a really clean low mileage one for £10k. But if your thinking of getting a Mk1 FRS, they are great cars, you would not be disappointed, they are quite raw, and when modified you really have to be awake when they come on boost, but keep it off boost and it drives like a normal focus, even get decent mpg, and I found insurance is a lot cheaper then a Impreza STi.
02 January 2015, 10:13 PM
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Actually you are pretty way off the mark. My main comparison was new car vs old car and how paper figures do not always compare to real world driving.
I bought the subaru this year. But I do own a much faster car and have done for a few years. I got the subaru for its better fuel economy (25mpg compared to 7mpg lol) and as a daily driver.
I just was very surprised at how well they do actually perform in the real world. I was asking people if they had similar stories, to see if this was just a fluke
If I wanted luxury I would have purchased a Merc, if I wanted spec I would have purchased a BMW. But as it happens, I do like to drive quickly (and safely) so I found a car that matched my style. The subaru has Air con and a MP3 player. It goes forwards (backwards as well!) what more are considered necessities when driving?
I bought the subaru this year. But I do own a much faster car and have done for a few years. I got the subaru for its better fuel economy (25mpg compared to 7mpg lol) and as a daily driver.
I just was very surprised at how well they do actually perform in the real world. I was asking people if they had similar stories, to see if this was just a fluke
If I wanted luxury I would have purchased a Merc, if I wanted spec I would have purchased a BMW. But as it happens, I do like to drive quickly (and safely) so I found a car that matched my style. The subaru has Air con and a MP3 player. It goes forwards (backwards as well!) what more are considered necessities when driving?
What ya got?
02 January 2015, 10:25 PM
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I've always liked the MK1 rs too, and they can be picked up quite cheap now. However there is something about the classic Impreza that I love, yes it is old and dated but in a way that's why I like it so much, it looks great and its great fun to drive, and I haven't had to take any finance or borrow money to have one..
Some might see it as a poor mans chav car, but I like to consider myself an enthusiast who is sensible with money
Some might see it as a poor mans chav car, but I like to consider myself an enthusiast who is sensible with money
I bought my classic as I now buy cheap fun track/weekend toys that are capable without spending a fortune to buy them as if they get wrecked it's not too much money lost and if it's had good money spent on parts you can always recoup most of that by breaking.
Since selling the newage wagon which was my daily, I found it best to have 2 cars and since that I've concentrated on cheap capable toys which have been, mx5 race/track spec, Clio 172 and now the classic in progress.
I can't justify spending big money on a toy when they can be had for much cheaper and more capable than some of the big money cars.
And still have a nice daily to potter around in.
02 January 2015, 10:45 PM
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I agree to some extent, my comment about the cheap poor mans chav car is kind of true to the 'most' of the owners nowadays. You just need to see the condition and spec and styling to tell them apart of which is an enthusiastic owned, which is not many nowadays.
I bought my classic as I now buy cheap fun track/weekend toys that are capable without spending a fortune to buy them as if they get wrecked it's not too much money lost and if it's had good money spent on parts you can always recoup most of that by breaking.
Since selling the newage wagon which was my daily, I found it best to have 2 cars and since that I've concentrated on cheap capable toys which have been, mx5 race/track spec, Clio 172 and now the classic in progress.
I can't justify spending big money on a toy when they can be had for much cheaper and more capable than some of the big money cars.
And still have a nice daily to potter around in.
I bought my classic as I now buy cheap fun track/weekend toys that are capable without spending a fortune to buy them as if they get wrecked it's not too much money lost and if it's had good money spent on parts you can always recoup most of that by breaking.
Since selling the newage wagon which was my daily, I found it best to have 2 cars and since that I've concentrated on cheap capable toys which have been, mx5 race/track spec, Clio 172 and now the classic in progress.
I can't justify spending big money on a toy when they can be had for much cheaper and more capable than some of the big money cars.
And still have a nice daily to potter around in.
Yer defo agree with you there dude, and I know what you mean. On the FB pages for example - there are some truly awful examples knocking about.The difference between enthusiast owned and some chav who wants a 'turbo' car are miles apart
02 January 2015, 11:37 PM
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I had it on Powerstation Rollers once when I went to a Subaru RR day when it was running the standard turbo with load of bolt on mods, but the car kept spinning on the rollers and we couldn't strap it down to get a decent run.
And the guy I sold it to never had it on the rolling road either, but guessing with that spec list it was 360-380bhp!!
And the guy I sold it to never had it on the rolling road either, but guessing with that spec list it was 360-380bhp!!
03 January 2015, 12:40 AM
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If i had 20k to.spend I would make my scoob into an rs beater on all levels.
Yes the rs is a great car but just show s how capable a 15 year old 4door saloon can hold s on for fraction of the cost.
Yes the rs is a great car but just show s how capable a 15 year old 4door saloon can hold s on for fraction of the cost.
03 January 2015, 06:21 AM
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The rs would still be worth 20k.....
03 January 2015, 08:39 AM
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Well I think it's testament to just how good the Impreza in all it's incarnations was and still is.
20 years on and it's still keeping up with and indeed in front of many modern cars.
Personally not keen on anything after the blob, but wouldn't say no to a hatch special edition if someone chucked me the keys for free. Which is what we should be comparing to the Focus RS as it's more a kin to something like the R204- 205 and CS400, yet it's the humble Classic still holding it's own against modern machinery that costs significantly more money, to some of us it's a trick that never gets old. 
20 years on and it's still keeping up with and indeed in front of many modern cars.
Personally not keen on anything after the blob, but wouldn't say no to a hatch special edition if someone chucked me the keys for free.
Which is what we should be comparing to the Focus RS as it's more a kin to something like the R204- 205 and CS400, yet it's the humble Classic still holding it's own against modern machinery that costs significantly more money, to some of us it's a trick that never gets old.
03 January 2015, 08:45 AM
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Well I think it's testament to just how good the Impreza in all it's incarnations was and still is.
20 years on and it's still keeping up with and indeed in front of many modern cars.
Personally not keen on anything after the blob, but wouldn't say no to a hatch special edition if someone chucked me the keys for free. Which is what we should be comparing to the Focus RS as it's more a kin to something like the R204- 205 and CS400, yet it's the humble Classic still holding it's own against modern machinery that costs significantly more money, to some of us it's a trick that never gets old.
20 years on and it's still keeping up with and indeed in front of many modern cars.
Personally not keen on anything after the blob, but wouldn't say no to a hatch special edition if someone chucked me the keys for free.
Which is what we should be comparing to the Focus RS as it's more a kin to something like the R204- 205 and CS400, yet it's the humble Classic still holding it's own against modern machinery that costs significantly more money, to some of us it's a trick that never gets old. the rest is stuck back in the decade it was designed like,rust,poor interior,silly running costs etc.
03 January 2015, 08:51 AM
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Yeah Fords don't rust, do 600miles to a tank and cost peanuts to service.
You really are just making yourself look like the resident idiot. If you don't like Subarus so much why don't you sell yours and stop logging on here.
I'm pretty sure we won't miss you.
You really are just making yourself look like the resident idiot. If you don't like Subarus so much why don't you sell yours and stop logging on here.
I'm pretty sure we won't miss you.
03 January 2015, 09:38 AM
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Should have bought a WRX.
I, along with other SN members can get 36mpg on a long run, my insurance is less than £300 and save for CV boots splitting, the car has been very reliable. Parts on the WRX are substantially cheaper than the STI, especially used ones.
It's a great car in general imo. The WRX/STI is the #1 tuners car in the world I believe. The WRX just trumps the STI so badly at usable power levels.
03 January 2015, 09:44 AM
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Should have bought a WRX.
I, along with other SN members can get 36mpg on a long run, my insurance is less than £300 and save for CV boots splitting, the car has been very reliable. Parts on the WRX are substantially cheaper than the STI, especially used ones.
It's a great car in general imo. The WRX/STI is the #1 tuners car in the world I believe. The WRX just trumps the STI so badly at usable power levels.
running costs arent an issue to me given the fact my sti hasnt moved for ages but our diesel has and this realy does get over 36 mpg with no magic arbs
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03 January 2015, 09:53 AM
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Should have bought a WRX.
I, along with other SN members can get 36mpg on a long run, my insurance is less than £300 and save for CV boots splitting, the car has been very reliable. Parts on the WRX are substantially cheaper than the STI, especially used ones.
It's a great car in general imo. The WRX/STI is the #1 tuners car in the world I believe. The WRX just trumps the STI so badly at usable power levels.
03 January 2015, 10:16 AM
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Do the RS's have the same torque limiter in 1st and 2nd as the ST's?
Had an ST right up my chuff while back, couldn't shake him at all..
Pulled up next to me at the lights, then I left him like he was going backwards.
So yeah, in a straight line fast FWD stuff will be just as quick/quicker but personally, I know which car I'd rather be in.
Had an ST right up my chuff while back, couldn't shake him at all..
Pulled up next to me at the lights, then I left him like he was going backwards.
So yeah, in a straight line fast FWD stuff will be just as quick/quicker but personally, I know which car I'd rather be in.
03 January 2015, 12:49 PM
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I own an impreza as I'm an enthusiast,but I'm not so stupid as some to think its some supercar killer.
Modern hatches have left imprezas miles behind in speed handling and interior quality!
All the imprezas has to help it too 60 faster is 4wd!
03 January 2015, 01:14 PM
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03 January 2015, 03:36 PM
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Are you as thick as dicky??
I own an impreza as I'm an enthusiast,but I'm not so stupid as some to think its some supercar killer.
Modern hatches have left imprezas miles behind in speed handling and interior quality!
All the imprezas has to help it too 60 faster is 4wd!
The op didn't come on here saying that his car is the fastest. He said that his 1280kg sti with 300bhp beat a 1400kg + RS with 300bhp. Old or not, the sti has power to weight ratio advantage and always will have in standard trim.
I really don't get what your problem is.