Focus RS Vs Classic STI
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I've driven a mk2 FRS a few times, was quite impressed with the performance when rolling and it sounded nice.
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
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I've driven a mk2 FRS a few times, was quite impressed with the performance when rolling and it sounded nice.
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
But as I said early on, I loved my Mk1 FRS, but when I look back the reason why I sold it was because even though it was quick as fu6k, anything other then a dry road, the car was just undriveable in the wet, it would spin up the wheels in 4th gear, but in the dry is was such a good car, trouble is in the UK we get more wet days then dry days!!
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This is why i love these forums and keep saying so, these car comparison threads quickly turn into a w*lly waving contest where pub bores search for technical data to prove their point. Lets be honest in the real worls these are of no revelevance, everyone has their own idea of a good car. I loved my Scooby but in my opinion it was no where near the car my RS is. Yes the RS is expensive but in the 2 years ive had it, its probably worth a very similar amount, i bought my Scooby 12 months old and its value plummeted over the 2 years i kept it.
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This is why i love these forums and keep saying so, these car comparison threads quickly turn into a w*lly waving contest where pub bores search for technical data to prove their point. Lets be honest in the real worls these are of no revelevance, everyone has their own idea of a good car. I loved my Scooby but in my opinion it was no where near the car my RS is. Yes the RS is expensive but in the 2 years ive had it, its probably worth a very similar amount, i bought my Scooby 12 months old and its value plummeted over the 2 years i kept it.
i have one, i love it but because i accept the rs is better im a troll
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Your on a Scooby forum your bound to get that, i liked them when they were new cars but nowadays most are just cheap runabouts. People spending more money a year on petrol than the "Classic" is worth
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What comparisons do you make to justify the RS is a better car?
As I said, I only need forward, reverse, air con and an MP3 player! Why would I pay 20k(ish) more for a car that you can guarantee rusts after 5 years and develops unfixable oil leaks?
I have spent 'nearly' 20k on a car that is far more of a car than the Focus Rs will ever be. The Scooby for me is a run around and does exactly what I want of it. Its a quick daily driver!
So again, what comparisons justifies the RS as a better car? - Tell me and we can do a side by side comparison
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What defines a car as being out of date Fatty?
What comparisons do you make to justify the RS is a better car?
As I said, I only need forward, reverse, air con and an MP3 player! Why would I pay 20k(ish) more for a car that you can guarantee rusts after 5 years and develops unfixable oil leaks?
I have spent 'nearly' 20k on a car that is far more of a car than the Focus Rs will ever be. The Scooby for me is a run around and does exactly what I want of it. Its a quick daily driver!
So again, what comparisons justifies the RS as a better car? - Tell me and we can do a side by side comparison
What comparisons do you make to justify the RS is a better car?
As I said, I only need forward, reverse, air con and an MP3 player! Why would I pay 20k(ish) more for a car that you can guarantee rusts after 5 years and develops unfixable oil leaks?
I have spent 'nearly' 20k on a car that is far more of a car than the Focus Rs will ever be. The Scooby for me is a run around and does exactly what I want of it. Its a quick daily driver!
So again, what comparisons justifies the RS as a better car? - Tell me and we can do a side by side comparison
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the impreza is an old out of date car in both technology and build quality.
i dont need to define why i think the rs is better as its just my opinion.
i like it, i wouldnt buy one either but thats got nothing to do with it.
post some pics up of your evo as most would love to see such a high spec car, i love mitsubishis too having owned a couple.
i dont need to define why i think the rs is better as its just my opinion.
i like it, i wouldnt buy one either but thats got nothing to do with it.
post some pics up of your evo as most would love to see such a high spec car, i love mitsubishis too having owned a couple.
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i think the rs is a better car than an impreza.........so what if others dont agree when has that ever bothered me?
coronation street sums up what people perceive the average impreza owner to be...
what did the local drug dealer drive??? surprise surprise an impreza.
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The car is in mint condition, with no rust to be found anywhere!
Engine
2.0 fully forged
K1 Rods
Wisco 1400 HD Pistons
Cosworth Head Gasket
Cosworth Bearing
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Rods Bolts
Stage 2 Ported Head
Ported Stock Intake Manifold
Ported Stock Exhaust Manifold
GSC 2R Cams
Uprated Springs E9
COP Kit
Samco Hoses
Ralliart Rad Cap
Koyorad alloy radiator
Fuel System
RC 1000 Injectors
Walbro 400L In tank Fuel Pump
Sard Fuel Pressure Reg
Clutch/Drive train
Exedy twin plate clutch and matching flywheel
E8 AYC Rear Diff
5 Speed Box
Quick shift
Turbo & Exhaust
Turbo Technics S205
Ported Turbo Elbow
Magnex 3inch Down Pipe
Magnex Decat
Blitz Nur Spec Exhaust
4 Inch Intake
K&N Filter
Greddy/Trust V Spec Intercooler
Custom Intercooler PipeWork
Samco Hoses
Repacked exhaust silencer on the NUR spec
Suspension / Handling & Looks
Evo 9 Shocks
Tein Lowered Springs
Fast Road Set up
5 point Underbracing
Ralliart Strut Brace Front and Rear
HKS Race Series Twin Rear Blade Spolier
One Piece Head Lights
Clear indicators
Brakes
E9 Disc’s all round
Brembo Callipers
Project Mu pads
HEL Lines
Wheels & Tyres
XXR 527 8.75X18
New 235/40/18 Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's
Ecu & Boost Control
Stock E5 Ecu Running Full SD Conversion
Twin Maps 1.8bar and 1.5bar
Launch Control with Anti-Lag
Launch Control With Traction Control
Ecu controlled Boost
Interior
Mono Corse Steering Wheel
Works Bell Quick Release Boss
Sparco Evo Drivers Seat and new Sparco Evo 2 Passenger seat
Ralliart Carbon Gear ****
Ralliart Carbon Heater Surround
Ralliart Carbon Handbrake
Ralliart Carbon Dash Surround
Ralliart Polished Door Sill Guards
Ralliart Peddle Kit
Ralliart Mat Set
Stack Boost and Oil Pressure gauges in A-pillar twin pod with dimmable backlighting
Performance
1.8 bar Approx 520bhp 500ftlbs
1.5bar Approx 450bhp 430ftlbs
This Dyno is a slightly older one - it has been tweeked to run 520bhp at present. But I do not have this print out handy! It will be re-mapped by end of the month to around 560, which the internals are more than capable of handling. I will post this up when its complete
Engine
2.0 fully forged
K1 Rods
Wisco 1400 HD Pistons
Cosworth Head Gasket
Cosworth Bearing
ARP Head Bolts
ARP Rods Bolts
Stage 2 Ported Head
Ported Stock Intake Manifold
Ported Stock Exhaust Manifold
GSC 2R Cams
Uprated Springs E9
COP Kit
Samco Hoses
Ralliart Rad Cap
Koyorad alloy radiator
Fuel System
RC 1000 Injectors
Walbro 400L In tank Fuel Pump
Sard Fuel Pressure Reg
Clutch/Drive train
Exedy twin plate clutch and matching flywheel
E8 AYC Rear Diff
5 Speed Box
Quick shift
Turbo & Exhaust
Turbo Technics S205
Ported Turbo Elbow
Magnex 3inch Down Pipe
Magnex Decat
Blitz Nur Spec Exhaust
4 Inch Intake
K&N Filter
Greddy/Trust V Spec Intercooler
Custom Intercooler PipeWork
Samco Hoses
Repacked exhaust silencer on the NUR spec
Suspension / Handling & Looks
Evo 9 Shocks
Tein Lowered Springs
Fast Road Set up
5 point Underbracing
Ralliart Strut Brace Front and Rear
HKS Race Series Twin Rear Blade Spolier
One Piece Head Lights
Clear indicators
Brakes
E9 Disc’s all round
Brembo Callipers
Project Mu pads
HEL Lines
Wheels & Tyres
XXR 527 8.75X18
New 235/40/18 Eagle F1 Asymmetric 2's
Ecu & Boost Control
Stock E5 Ecu Running Full SD Conversion
Twin Maps 1.8bar and 1.5bar
Launch Control with Anti-Lag
Launch Control With Traction Control
Ecu controlled Boost
Interior
Mono Corse Steering Wheel
Works Bell Quick Release Boss
Sparco Evo Drivers Seat and new Sparco Evo 2 Passenger seat
Ralliart Carbon Gear ****
Ralliart Carbon Heater Surround
Ralliart Carbon Handbrake
Ralliart Carbon Dash Surround
Ralliart Polished Door Sill Guards
Ralliart Peddle Kit
Ralliart Mat Set
Stack Boost and Oil Pressure gauges in A-pillar twin pod with dimmable backlighting
Performance
1.8 bar Approx 520bhp 500ftlbs
1.5bar Approx 450bhp 430ftlbs
This Dyno is a slightly older one - it has been tweeked to run 520bhp at present. But I do not have this print out handy! It will be re-mapped by end of the month to around 560, which the internals are more than capable of handling. I will post this up when its complete
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modern cars are heavy and slow.too many "safety" gadgets on them and they are restricted to 155 mph.so i don't care what rs, si, gti whatever i come across as most stand very little chance against my old scooby
Any modern motor i get to drive just does not compare.Bing Bong ya fuel is low Bing Bong you have no seat belt on bing bong too fast ..lights to tell you when to change gear...maaann where is the modern car headed??and more to the point how much more crap is the "EU" going to insist we let insurers and manufactures pin to our cars..its not going to be long untill you get shut down by a computer for too many g through a corner or start charging you extra money for "quick" driving or somthing.....gggggrrrrrrrrrrr
rant over.
Any modern motor i get to drive just does not compare.Bing Bong ya fuel is low Bing Bong you have no seat belt on bing bong too fast ..lights to tell you when to change gear...maaann where is the modern car headed??and more to the point how much more crap is the "EU" going to insist we let insurers and manufactures pin to our cars..its not going to be long untill you get shut down by a computer for too many g through a corner or start charging you extra money for "quick" driving or somthing.....gggggrrrrrrrrrrr
rant over.
#174
I had that nice warm feeling inside knowing I was doing all right in life tootling around in a £20k garden ornament
Next question.....
#176
I've driven a mk2 FRS a few times, was quite impressed with the performance when rolling and it sounded nice.
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
Setting aside cost totally, I'd still rather have my Sti V6. One journey in the wet was enough to make me realise that!
There's plenty of other things I i don't like about the RS either, the whole feel is of cost saving mass production to me. No nice touches to it, head light vent things are fake, really naff fake Cabon trim, horrible looking sliding brake callipers that looked rusted out at a year old etc
As a standard car they are sh1te performance wise , my old one is only in the next village and he's got it running 400/400 just over , complete different car now , he's just a coooont that won't sell it back to me
#178
Mummy had nothing , so now I can afford toys I have them....but I'm always still at the bottom of the pecking list in my house , my choice though
I bought the rs as I wanted one after seeing one , I also had a mallard green escort monte due to been told I could never afford one....the comment ate into me off a former boss.
Chav I'm not , I turned 40 last year ..... Petrol head yes , chav no.
I dont sit on here bleating how good my cars are compared to other marques
I see a lot of people on here slating cars they havnt even owned....I make a comment on the cars I have owned.
Was the rs any good.........yep , really nice car to drive , got loads of attention (only 2 in Doncaster) was it the best car I've owned....errr NOPE.
The best I've had was the m3csl .....and to be honest I had to buy a cat d one as I didn't have 25k in the bank and I've never had finance on a car as I can't keep them long enough.
So that should be the spoilt mummy/daddy bit be out of the way
#180
I'm sure it was you I was sat aside after leaving the show at lightwater valley , I don't think either of us went over 80 until I missed the a1 turning and had to make a bit of time up
I've seen one tidy classic in Doncaster and that was 'dazdavies'.....I did try to have a play with him but couldn't get by him , he had a modded classic and the rs was standard.....he was impressed (I was sh1tting bricks thinking I was going to die)