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Old 11 January 2015, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
Have you not got 10mm to 14mm sockets that's all that's needed to remove the tmic you need to invest asap

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12mm on mine i think rather than 14. got **** loads off tools at home. not with me ATM
Old 11 January 2015, 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gear Head


But you still got a code come up. That still needs looking into. How much fuel did your gauge show that you had?
half
dead on half.

it seemed to be working because it was full and went down and down as i drove

ill fix the gauge first and see if any more codes occour
Old 11 January 2015, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
so why not ring the aa first rather then post on a forum for everyone to guess?
because i wanted as much infomation as i could. i wanted to fix it myself and i like to not rely on one person. they also took 2 hours to get here.

do you feel like you wasted your time posting? would you like a refund on your comment? mabey just dont post on my threads at all? then we would all be happy!
Old 11 January 2015, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
because i wanted as much infomation as i could. i wanted to fix it myself and i like to not rely on one person. they also took 2 hours to get here.

do you feel like you wasted your time posting? would you like a refund on your comment? mabey just dont post on my threads at all? then we would all be happy!
no i just wondered why you were so stupid,
post a question which nobody could confirm the answer too and even if they could you have no tools to fix it
or call the aa man who will have the tools and knowledge to do the repair on the spot.
Old 11 January 2015, 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
12mm on mine i think rather than 14. got **** loads off tools at home. not with me ATM
I always carry my socket set with me fits in the glove box goes from a few mil upto 14mm cracking bit of kit and we'll worth it

Steve
Old 11 January 2015, 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir

I always carry my socket set with me fits in the glove box goes from a few mil upto 14mm cracking bit of kit and we'll worth it

Steve
Yes, but even if it was a faulty part, you wouldn't have had a replacement with you.


One thing which would have helped on this occasion was if you had used the trip. I always use it on mine and I know that 250-300 miles is my limit, depending on how I drive. Worth noting for the future. How many miles was your trip since you filled up? I assume that the fill up fixed the problem? May be the code flashed up as the pump was being starved of fuel.
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Yeah that's true but still good to carry certain things

In the op case it was an empty tank

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Old 11 January 2015, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by stevemoir
I always carry my socket set with me fits in the glove box goes from a few mil upto 14mm cracking bit of kit and we'll worth it

Steve
Have one of these in the glovey of each of my cars

http://www.halfords.com/motoring/gar...socket-set-1-4
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I guess flick it onto gas woulda cured the problem ?
Old 11 January 2015, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobyskool
I guess flick it onto gas woulda cured the problem ?
No because gas only comes on when car has been warmed up. LPG cars never start on gas.
Old 12 January 2015, 04:40 AM
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Hi there

As above replace fuel pump,you should be able to do it yourself its not hard to do so

And as above you can't start on LPG alone,you need to first start on petrol and then switch to LPG,you always need to carry in fuel tank fuel

Thanks,Jura
Old 12 January 2015, 06:11 PM
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Not strictly true about needing petrol to start, it depends on the system and how it is set up

I had my Range Rover converted in 2000, and it started on LPG fine, I used to prime it by turning the ignition off and on a few times

Although if it was really really cold then it may have needed a petrol start (but that was only a few times a year)
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Not strictly true about needing petrol to start, it depends on the system and how it is set up

I had my Range Rover converted in 2000, and it started on LPG fine, I used to prime it by turning the ignition off and on a few times

Although if it was really really cold then it may have needed a petrol start (but that was only a few times a year)
I know you can start on LPG,but if you will be trying for long enough period you can damage the injectors or Vaporizer,which is not cheap to replace

Yes in cold winter you should start on Petrol

Thanks,Jura
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ok.
bit off confusion about the gas system.

normally it will start on petrol and switch to gas once warmed up.
most systems however do allow you to start on gas if you hold the button down when starting for special occasions.

in my system the car will still use petrol for tip in enrichment and it adds a little petrol on mild to WOT. it helps it run better and lubes the valves a tiny bit

i didnt actually realise untill sunday how much my car relied on the petrol when it was running on gas. hence it barely running and being really ****
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Originally Posted by joshnosh
ok.
bit off confusion about the gas system.

normally it will start on petrol and switch to gas once warmed up.
most systems however do allow you to start on gas if you hold the button down when starting for special occasions.

in my system the car will still use petrol for tip in enrichment and it adds a little petrol on mild to WOT. it helps it run better and lubes the valves a tiny bit

i didnt actually realise untill sunday how much my car relied on the petrol when it was running on gas. hence it barely running and being really ****
You dumb ****!
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
Yes, but even if it was a faulty part, you wouldn't have had a replacement with you.


One thing which would have helped on this occasion was if you had used the trip. I always use it on mine and I know that 250-300 miles is my limit, depending on how I drive. Worth noting for the future. How many miles was your trip since you filled up? I assume that the fill up fixed the problem? May be the code flashed up as the pump was being starved of fuel.

i fully agree
unfortunately A) i had taken the battery off last week so my trip counter got reset
B) its quite hard to predict petrol mileage when on gas. it depends on temperature, number off starts and general driving style.
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so now i need to fix the actual problem

when i filled my car up the gage actualy went up to full! it just dosent seem to be able to go bellow half lol
Old 13 January 2015, 12:51 PM
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I think mentioning that it ran on lpg in your original post may have helped!

Best is to run it one only petrol for a tankful and see if the problem persists.
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Originally Posted by Gear Head
I think mentioning that it ran on lpg in your original post may have helped!

Best is to run it one only petrol for a tankful and see if the problem persists.
most people dont understand the gas system so its best not to mention it a lot off the time. people seem to think theres something wrong with the gas system even when its nothing to do with it
the car wasent even using gas when i was trying to get it started so it makes little difference.

how would running it just on petrol help?
Old 13 January 2015, 01:18 PM
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Did you not think it seemed strange this half a tank of fuel seemed to be lasting forever?
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Originally Posted by ljpaddock
Did you not think it seemed strange this half a tank of fuel seemed to be lasting forever?
if it had gone on any longer then yes i think i would have noticed

you know what its like though, one part off the tank seems to last ages and some bits go down really quickly. add that to the gas system and the fact that i filled up befor coming back to work and a regular comut. be comes extremely difficult to notice. i just glanced at the gauge and it said i had fuel thats all i needed to know
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