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Old 20 January 2015, 07:32 PM
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I have a zen built 2.5 in my blob mated to a garret gt30 and it's a perfect fast road car, no lag and oodles of low end grunt. Such a shame it's not been decked/pinned as i would love to get over 500 but been advised against going over 475 on a scdb 2.5. There are a few over 500 but I think it's in the hands of God
Old 20 January 2015, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
£8k will see you in a rough Hatch STI, that's a large bill waiting to happen. You want to buy a cherished car really.

You could always buy a WRX hatch but that's a bit of a dog imo.
How rude!
Old 20 January 2015, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by clyne 08
How rude!
Yours is a bit of an exception, and that's not me going back on my original statement!
Old 20 January 2015, 07:58 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
Yours is a bit of an exception, and that's not me going back on my original statement!
Er yes it is, you believe all WRx hatches are turds really don't you? This is a problem with most elitist cosser owners imo.
Old 20 January 2015, 07:59 PM
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Has RS_Twatt just been owned?
Old 20 January 2015, 08:01 PM
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Yeah we can't all afford a cosworth
Old 20 January 2015, 08:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
Yeah we can't all afford a cosworth
Which is surprising because like Rich, you also spend most of the day with your tool in men's mouths!

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Old 20 January 2015, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
Which is surprising because like Rich, you also spend most of the day with your tool in a men's mouths!
It takes a real man to get Dave on his knees, whereas you get KO'd by a child if you're not standing on your box
Old 20 January 2015, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by thenewgalaxy
whereas you get KO'd by a child
As you know, I did over Xmas...
Old 20 January 2015, 08:16 PM
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Owned by your own daughter
Old 20 January 2015, 08:16 PM
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is facebook broken??
Old 20 January 2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
Which is surprising because like Rich, you also spend most of the day with your tool in men's mouths!



old,umpa lumpa,yellow seats,blah blah .............................................
Old 20 January 2015, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
is facebook broken??




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Old 20 January 2015, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by jayallen
As you know, I did over Xmas...
This is what I was making reference to
Old 20 January 2015, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave-W-
old,umpa lumpa,yellow seats,blah blah .............................................
Old 20 January 2015, 08:24 PM
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Old 20 January 2015, 08:56 PM
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Get ****ed and buy a proper car

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Old 20 January 2015, 09:35 PM
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Biggest problem with 2.5s is the drive by wire which is like having a ******* with a sock on your ****.... Add to the the rubbish seating in 05-07 cars and the internationally criticised 2.5 unit....the safe bet is always 2 litre and JDM even better ....Hatches onward are an awesome car to sit in but UK reliability is a huge concern even in standard cars. I know lots of people with standard cars and expertly modified ones that have perished well before acceptable manufacturing standards should allow.

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Old 21 January 2015, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 53
Biggest problem with 2.5s is the drive by wire which is like having a ******* with a sock on your ****.... Add to the the rubbish seating in 05-07 cars and the internationally criticised 2.5 unit....the safe bet is always 2 litre and JDM even better ....Hatches onward are an awesome car to sit in but UK reliability is a huge concern even in standard cars. I know lots of people with standard cars and expertly modified ones that have perished well before acceptable manufacturing standards should allow.
lol must not bite
Old 21 January 2015, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
How come then its always cylinder 2 & 4 that fail, very rare for 3 to fail, in fact I have not seen any issues with cyl 3, even on my 800bhp 2.35's.
I think they meant those that don't have a suspect stock/aftermarket tune that makes 2 and 4 lean. Basically if an Impreza has the right tune then the weak point is #3. Obviously the #3 vulnerability is exacerbated on a 2.5 as the engine expels more hot gases.

More on the EJ #3 failures.

While we have gradually discovered how much power an internally stock EJ20 can handle, we've been lucky enough to see others in the industry blow up engines instead of blowing up our own. This allowed us to learn the lesson without paying the tuition (cost of rebuild). One major flaw we've uncovered in the EJ20 isn't in its awkward boxer design, but the routing of the turbo system.
On most of the blown-up Subarus we've seen, we noticed the number three cylinder has often been the dead leg in the engine. Every blown engine I've ever witnessed has either thrown a rod out the block, bent a rod, melted a piston or even cracked the ring lands--all on the number three cylinder.
The turbo is on the passenger side of the engine and the number three cylinder happens to also be on the rear passenger side. One of the theories hinges on the manner in which the turbo, up-pipe and downpipe are encased around the number three cylinder. This causes an abundant amount of heat to concentrate on this one cylinder, potentially over-heating it.
Regardless of the design flaw, there are a couple of equally critical issues that should be addressed on the U.S.-spec EJ20 engine: The factory pistons are cast aluminum and the rods aren't ready for big boost. That brings us to our EJ20 build-up.
Mike Morita from Sparco has a black WRX (featured in the January 2002 issue of Turbo) and just as his car was building more power, the number three cylinder "remolded" the cast piston while also breaking the ring lands.
The engine was pulled and disassembled, with the internal parts sent to HKS and the block and heads sent to RS Machine in Torrance, Calif. Here, Mike Coughtrie worked his magic on the block. Not just your average machine shop, this place is geared for high performance. While Mike was busy machining the engine, HKS was busy lining up the rest of the parts.
Scrapping the inferior EJ internals for much better aftermarket units, the HKS R&D team decided to go with Arias Pistons and Crower connecting rods. Of course, once the engine is assembled, it'll also receive an arsenal of HKS parts, including an upgraded turbo and engine management.
When the engine was disassembled, a cracked combustion chamber was discovered. Naturally, this occurred in the number three chamber. While HKS was managing to get hold of bearings, gaskets and other accessories, the block was nearly finished.
Follow along to see what was done to prep the block for big boost, then check in a future issue for our follow-up article, which will focus on assembly and testing.
Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...#ixzz3PStz2TmG

Ironically my compression print out shows failure on just #1 and #3

EDIT: #1 Failing due to a piece of sparkplug breaking off.

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Old 21 January 2015, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I think they meant those that don't have a suspect stock/aftermarket tune that makes 2 and 4 lean. Basically if an Impreza has the right tune then the weak point is #3. Obviously the #3 vulnerability is exacerbated on a 2.5 as the engine expels more hot gases.

More on the EJ #3 failures.



Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...#ixzz3PStz2TmG

Ironically my compression print out shows failure on just #1 and #3
Do you realise who you're trying to educate?
Old 21 January 2015, 02:46 PM
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Sometimes engine builders don't use there real names on forums lol

http://www.finchmotorsport.co.uk

Steve
Old 21 January 2015, 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Berks-Jack
Do you realise who you're trying to educate?
Old 21 January 2015, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by mantazini
Get ****ed and buy a proper car
I did Buy a proper car that is rather than get ****ed
Old 21 January 2015, 03:45 PM
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I'm assuming it's arsematt making a fool of himself as usual,blocking him is very satisfying.
Old 21 January 2015, 03:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Berks-Jack
Do you realise who you're trying to educate?
These F1 guys know nothing...they just wing it
Old 21 January 2015, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I think they meant those that don't have a suspect stock/aftermarket tune that makes 2 and 4 lean. Basically if an Impreza has the right tune then the weak point is #3. Obviously the #3 vulnerability is exacerbated on a 2.5 as the engine expels more hot gases.

More on the EJ #3 failures.



Read more: http://www.superstreetonline.com/how...#ixzz3PStz2TmG

Ironically my compression print out shows failure on just #1 and #3
As you are the resident expert on all things Subaru, I obviously have wasted my 40 years as an engine builder.


The sooner you stop looking on US sites the better, reading & quoting other peoples issues without fully understanding the spec of the engine the fuel its using, which in the US is the biggest issue.
Old 21 January 2015, 04:41 PM
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Looks like RS_Twatt just got owned again.
Old 21 January 2015, 04:43 PM
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Hhaha RS_Twatt , love it, Can the mods please rename his account?
Old 21 January 2015, 04:58 PM
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lol, matt you do not help yourself sometimes....


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