ISIS sinks to new depths of depravity
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You aren't taking into consideration that Bashad's chemical stock pile was/is real and now at leat some if not most of it is in the hands of ISIS. That is fact, not debatable iffy inteligence on whether it exists or not like Saddam's WMD's were. The only question on that fact now is how capable are ISIS in making use of it hence the active operations against their known recruited chemical weapons engineers, the main one who has already been killed by a drone strike. They aren't going after them for nothing, there is a credible threat there and any chemical weapons developed will be used on foreign soil as they have no need for it on home turf.
How long does the World sit back and wait before it gets bad enough to go in and take more proactive action against them? Wait for that very terrorist attack to happen? Won't there then be cries of why wasn't something done sooner?
ISIS may not be in one place or a conventional army wearing a uniform complying with the Geneva Convention however it is known where their strongholds are, where there main bases of operations are and these need destroying and air strikes aren't being effective enough. What do you do then, just sit back and let them continue doing what they are doing and expanding further and further afield allowing them to increase in power and size?
They should have been crushed before they ever got this big and the World sat back and let them grow, letting them continue to do so in my opinion is a huge misjudgement.
How long does the World sit back and wait before it gets bad enough to go in and take more proactive action against them? Wait for that very terrorist attack to happen? Won't there then be cries of why wasn't something done sooner?
ISIS may not be in one place or a conventional army wearing a uniform complying with the Geneva Convention however it is known where their strongholds are, where there main bases of operations are and these need destroying and air strikes aren't being effective enough. What do you do then, just sit back and let them continue doing what they are doing and expanding further and further afield allowing them to increase in power and size?
They should have been crushed before they ever got this big and the World sat back and let them grow, letting them continue to do so in my opinion is a huge misjudgement.
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I have a solution that would work.
Everyone join ISIS.
I mean everyone, even Jamal Taylor (born again ****) and Tony De Wonderful (bra salesman) to join ISIS. Even WarrenD (lol @ him) and Maz (master of Taqiyya according to Jamal).
Then change it from the inside. You know how all the immigrants have ruined being British. We can all do the same to ISIS
Everyone join ISIS.
I mean everyone, even Jamal Taylor (born again ****) and Tony De Wonderful (bra salesman) to join ISIS. Even WarrenD (lol @ him) and Maz (master of Taqiyya according to Jamal).
Then change it from the inside. You know how all the immigrants have ruined being British. We can all do the same to ISIS
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It is the democratic process, sometimes you might not agree with people who choose to use it. That's moronic behaviour on your part.
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What wrong with that? If 40% want sharia law then they can create a party and follow the democratic process to change to sharia law. This also means anyone else who wants to oppose it can do so.
It is the democratic process, sometimes you might not agree with people who choose to use it. That's moronic behaviour on your part.
It is the democratic process, sometimes you might not agree with people who choose to use it. That's moronic behaviour on your part.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
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What wrong with that? If 40% want sharia law then they can create a party and follow the democratic process to change to sharia law. This also means anyone else who wants to oppose it can do so.
It is the democratic process, sometimes you might not agree with people who choose to use it. That's moronic behaviour on your part.
It is the democratic process, sometimes you might not agree with people who choose to use it. That's moronic behaviour on your part.
There is nothing to debate with people who see democracy as one vote once.
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I have a solution that would work.
Everyone join ISIS.
I mean everyone, even Jamal Taylor (born again ****) and Tony De Wonderful (bra salesman) to join ISIS. Even WarrenD (lol @ him) and Maz (master of Taqiyya according to Jamal).
Then change it from the inside. You know how all the immigrants have ruined being British. We can all do the same to ISIS
Everyone join ISIS.
I mean everyone, even Jamal Taylor (born again ****) and Tony De Wonderful (bra salesman) to join ISIS. Even WarrenD (lol @ him) and Maz (master of Taqiyya according to Jamal).
Then change it from the inside. You know how all the immigrants have ruined being British. We can all do the same to ISIS
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There's a fine line between the democratic process and opression Shaid, especially when it comes to radically changing the culture of an entire country.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
100% with you on this one fella
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Any "evidence" to suggest IS is developing chemical weapons is based purely suppostion; Syria had chemical weapons IS is in Syria. There is no concrete evidence proving that they have in possession the Syrian chemical stockpile, knowledge of handling such chemicals/weapons and the capability and the capacity to make active and deliver such weapons. I'm pretty sure the western intelligence services have more information than we do as to whether they have such weapons and their ability to use them. Without credible and concrete evidence I would err on the side of caution and continue monitoring IS activities rather that committ our forces and this country to yet another costly and lengthy invasion on the pretext that they might have chemical weapons.
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There's a fine line between the democratic process and opression Shaid, especially when it comes to radically changing the culture of an entire country.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
Moving on...
Tell me... What do you know about sharia law?
If tomorrow I wanted to make law stating that only cars with engines over 2500cc were allowed on the M6 I could start a campaign and party towards it and equally everyone else could vote against it. This IS how democracy and voting works.
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PS - and being quite blunt, you can take your Sharia Law and shove it up your ****.
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
Not quite the same as having to avoid the M6 in your 1.6 Focus, is it?
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
Not quite the same as having to avoid the M6 in your 1.6 Focus, is it?
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There's a fine line between the democratic process and opression Shaid, especially when it comes to radically changing the culture of an entire country.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
I say country because Scotland would never let that **** go down, and I doubt very much Northern Ireland would either. Can't speak for the Welsh.
Before you know it it will be Palestine all over again and English Christians will all be forced to live in Cornwall under sanction, having to smuggle in non halal meat.
If 40% of young muslims want sharia law they can all f*ck off and live somewhere else.
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There is no supposition. Many of the military facilities in Northern Syria held stock piles of chemicals for use in the production of chemical weapons and those military facilities are now in the control of ISIS. They didn't suddenly evaporate as soon as ISIS took control of them. Their capacity to make use of those stock piles is dependant on the chemical weapons engineers they have working for them, one of whom was recently targetted and killed in a drone strike like I already said. They have these engineers working for them then they aren't playing chemistry sets with it are they? I think the drone strike targetting that one individual speaks enough about the concern the intelligence services have over what they know is happening on the chemical weapon front with ISIS.
I stand by what I said, there is no evidence that IS has any credible chemical weapons capability. According to officials IS seized a chemical weapons facility northern Iraq last June and it that contained a stockpile of old,contaminated and difficult to move weapons that contained material that they believe not suitable to create a functional chemical weapon. The IS chemical engineer that was killed by a drone several hundreds of miles away in Mosul, Iraq, not Syria, was believed to be preparing chlorine gas bombs, nothing as deadly as sarin or other nerve agent or mustard gas. If IS do have these chemicals, then we need to see evidence first. The only people who are still using banned bombs and chemical attacks are Bashar al-Assad's forces where 330 Syrian civillians have been killed since the start of this year alone. But this has largely gone unnoticed with IS grabbing the headlines by the killing of Westerners.
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still don't know how anyone could saw someones head off :-(
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I know this is the burning thread 'just not really seen anything so horrific as in all their methods.
Funny how you can be religious and yet prepared to undertake such barbaric acts :-(
Funny how you can be religious and yet prepared to undertake such barbaric acts :-(
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PS - and being quite blunt, you can take your Sharia Law and shove it up your ****.
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
Not quite the same as having to avoid the M6 in your 1.6 Focus, is it?
According to the Sharia law:
• Theft is punishable by amputation of the right hand (above).
• Criticizing or denying any part of the Quran is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Muhammad is a prophet is punishable by death.
• Criticizing or denying Allah, the moon god of Islam is punishable by death.
• A Muslim who becomes a non-Muslim is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim who leads a Muslim away from Islam is punishable by death.
• A non-Muslim man who marries a Muslim woman is punishable by death.
• A man can marry an infant girl and consummate the marriage when she is 9 years old.
• Girls' clitoris should be cut (per Muhammad's words in Book 41, Kitab Al-Adab, Hadith 5251).
• A woman can have 1 husband, but a man can have up to 4 wives; Muhammad can have more.
• A man can unilaterally divorce his wife but a woman needs her husband's consent to divorce.
• A man can beat his wife for insubordination.
• Testimonies of four male witnesses are required to prove rape against a woman.
• A woman who has been raped cannot testify in court against her rapist(s).
• A woman's testimony in court, allowed only in property cases, carries half the weight of a man's.
• A female heir inherits half of what a male heir inherits.
• A woman cannot drive a car, as it leads to fitnah (upheaval).
• A woman cannot speak alone to a man who is not her husband or relative.
• Meat to be eaten must come from animals that have been sacrificed to Allah - i.e., be Halal.
• Muslims should engage in Taqiyya and lie to non-Muslims to advance Islam.
• The list goes on.
Not quite the same as having to avoid the M6 in your 1.6 Focus, is it?
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I take it we aren't friends then
I'm see you edited your comment. I am not guilty by association. ISIS don't represent me, they are part of me so **** em.... And **** anyone who sees guilt by association too!
I'm see you edited your comment. I am not guilty by association. ISIS don't represent me, they are part of me so **** em.... And **** anyone who sees guilt by association too!
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