Cpt Jack Sparrow

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Approx 1.5 million

An0n0m0us

That's great thanks, so 1.5 million SNP voters = 56 seats, 4 million UKIP voters = 1 seat. Not a great system is it?!

jonc

Certainly would look a lot different under PR.
http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/...entation/20893

f1_fan

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And more to the point 12 million voters = 330 Tory seats, it's a **** system!

Trinity

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I think its all been summarised well now in the last posts, the people have in fact spoken, but are completely unheard, which makes the Conservative wash a complete farce by even a third world country dictators standard

Devildog

Agreed.

And as someone has mentioned on the page jonc linked, we can't really assess what the result might have been under proportional representation. The way people vote, and the system under which they vote, are not independent from each other. There's a lot of tactical voting under the current system and who's to say many wouldn't vote differently under a proportional system?

Voting to keep someone out is likely to give a very different result to voting to put someone in.

f1_fan

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Yes it's a fair comment and I guess we'll never know, but even allowing for that it does seem crazy that a party getting just 3 times the vote of another can end up with 330 times as many seats.

RA Dunk

No they bloody well never, it just the media have portrayed them as England haters down south and the gullible have swallowed it all up like nice little fishes.

RA Dunk

That's based on the result that 'they' wanted, nothing more.

I still reckon it was fiddled and I don't doubt for a second they wouldent have fudged the figures to give the desired result, but never mind we now have quite a few seats in that sh1thole of a building that runs this country..

dpb

Hilarious. But have you been to / witnessed a third world dictated election


I feel you'd change your mind

f1_fan

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They needed practice to fudge the EU vote assuming President Camo can't find a way to avoid giving us the 'promised' referendum and I am sure he will exhaust all avenues trying to do just that!

f1_fan

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Have you?

RA Dunk

Yup, 100% agreed! This in/out referendum he promised is the next big one in politics to look forward too, I'm dying to see him try to squirm his way out of this one. Bet he wished he kept his mouth closed on it now lol.

f1_fan

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Yep it's one good thing about the result. It will also be very interesting to see how he 'leads a one nation government' (his words) seeing as he has been more or less completely rejected by Scotland

RA Dunk

I was actually surprised (very surprised TBH) that so many voted for him/them again? could it have been a case of having a weak opposition and nobody else actually worth voting for?

dpb

No I havnt but I live with someone who advocates her offspring don't even talk about politics in public incase its overheard by secret police ,CIO, in this case.

How much of that goes on here.?

Trinity

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I can assure you I will know FAR more about this than you will, so we will leave it at that

But it was a tongue in cheek comment....obviously, humour was lost, you must of been sad about what happened today also, so its ok, I forgive you

Turbohot

Oh, well. All done and dusted with!

Tell you what, one person must be seriously p!ssed off today i.e. Boris Johnson. I don't know if any of you remember that a few weeks ago he was asked to comment on Cameron's wish to continue as a party leader for another five years. He couldn't keep his disappointment hidden as his body lingo and his words gave it away. His face was a frustrated picture when he was parking his push bike. I think he would have loved to see his party's government come down. Then he would have liked to become the party leader, to raise it back up again; in the next election. Then he could have become the PM. Now, with another five years with Cameron, he can't be sure if there will be Tories government again, or will it be UKIP on the throne next time.

Who is becoming UKIP leader now? Do we know? I must Google that.

jonc

http://newsthump.com/2015/05/08/came...onic-smugness/

Turbohot

Exactly.

“Don’t worry Dave, I’m right here, ready to take over whenever you’re gone…for whatever reason.”

Sure, Boris. We're well aware if that, mate.

Matteeboy

Policies and principals aside, Farage was actually a bloody good leader. Charismatic, persuasive, empathic. Rare qualities these days. UKIP is absolutely f*****d without him.

Trinity

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I'll run UKIP. I'll be better.

dpb

You're too late Warrens already in

Turbohot

I wouldn't go that far, but I respect your opinion on Farage. I do agree that he stood out in the UKIP full of garbage. They're fcvked without him. Let's see which unsung charismatic UKIP member rises like a phoenix from the ashes, to be their next charismatic leader.

Turbohot

There will a contest between Trinity and Warren, then.

Trinity

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Bring It.

Turbohot

hodgy0_2

UKIP, was doomed anyway

An absurd amalgam of classic right wing laissez faire fee market low regulation claptrap - represented by Farage

So philosophically opposed to the minimum wage, workers rights, the NHS, any sort of regulation, pro big business, pro a casual tax avoidance (just using the rules) and of course the Euopean socialist experiment

And the other wing, seemingly led by Nuttal - trying to appeal to traditional labour supporters, pro NHS, very soft on things like minimum wage, workers rights etc, wage suppression

dpb

It was a sound noble suggestion, to go it alone from Europe

But this was unfortunately or otherwise as far as it was ever going run

They'd have voted for Carswell if he'd represented the monster raving Looney party

Norman Dog

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I liked Farrage, seemed a genuine enough guy for a polititian, but maybe Cameron getting back in isn't all bad if we get a referendum on Europe.