warrenm2

I thought it was pretty clear, how it is Farage on the RECEIVING end of hatred, not as claimed by DD that Farage is the one doing the hating

neil-h

Maybe in the funny little world where everyone's out to get UKIP.

Martin2005

Nothing at all, which is why we already have one.

Martin2005

It's only common sense if it actually adds up. 'Taking back control....' is a meaningless sound bite.

dpb

Poor Mr Miliband, so nervous about his policies he almost came a cropper coming off stage lol

Dirk Diggler 75

It's gonna be another Tory led coalition methinks,you can vote UKIP till the cows come home but they won't win owt .....

warrenm2

Put your marker down then.... https://www.scoobynet.com/non-scooby...-ukip-win.html

Martin2005

Still going for 50-100 Warren?

RS_Matt

Farage stayed cool tonight and as a result won over a slightly partisan audience.

Apart from smoking and Fox Hunting pretty flawless case for a vote imo.

Lefty's wouldn't let him leave by the end!!!

https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarage...2655425782062/

An0n0m0us

at the looney lefties on here again wanting everyone to believe UKIP are dead and buried and no one is going to vote for them.

I live in county that is historically a Tory heartland yet everywhere I look I see vote UKIP posters everywhere. I have always voted Tory but I won't be this time and I will be joining many others where I live and vote for UKIP.

So we only have a week to wait to find out how many actually have the ***** to go through with voting UKIP.

As for the SNP they make me laugh, typical English hating Scots out for everything they can get at the expense of the English. They must never be allowed anywhere near Government under any circumstances.

Martin2005

I don't think ' no one's going to vote for them' . I think between 10-15% will vote UKIP ( BTW I don't understand why that requires '*****'), and as a result they'll get between 0-5 seats.

RS_Matt

People are scared of change. I think the term you kill what you fear springs to mind.

Nigel put a lot of myths to bed tonight but I'm not sure the TV viewing figures will be high enough.

RobJenks

The SNP are now toothless after Miliband has confirmed a "no deal under any circumstances".
England has had enough of Scottish nationalism - The jocks can go or stay within the union, but ffs decide whether you're in or out and no more bloody divisive dialogue.
Lets go forward together.

Martin2005

Which myths?

RS_Matt

They are racist? They will privatise the NHS? They are a white party? They will stop immigration? They are a 1 policy Party? They'll cease all foreign aid? ...christ some of the things lefties have erroneously claimed made my blood boil, do people actually listen to Farage? I'm still seeing "xenophobe" in online media Political discussions.

I see https://www.facebook.com/UKpolitics?fref=nf have yet to make a post about Farage's appearance. Though they declare themselves neutral they can't post quick enough when they have dirt.

An0n0m0us

None of the political parties have valid arguments so go about making up complete b0llox about UKIP because they are so desperate for him to not win votes.

Cameron immediately lost my Tory vote when he called UKIP closet racists, well done Cameron that's one way to alienate long standing Tory voters who think UKIP have very valid arguments.

RS_Matt

The Facebook Politics page have just caved in after my constant rants about it and posted a feedback post!

Democracy!!!

Martin2005

1.I’ve never said that UKIP as a party are racist. They do however appeal to racists, which is why nearly all the former BNP support has gone to them.
2.UKIP have had a very politically expedient change of heart on the NHS, you have to ask yourself if they mean what they say on this subject, given earlier manifestos and policy statements
3.They are predominately a white party, who gains vote in predominantly white areas; in fact they are a white male party. Ironically most of their target seats have very low % of immigrants and are very ‘white’ – strange that – see point 1.
4.They will stop a large portion of foreign aid – I don’t think I’ve heard anyone ever say ‘all’ so that doesn’t even get close to ‘myth’ status.
Yes I listen to Farage – he repeatedly tells half truths, plays on fears, and dodges the answers he doesn’t want to give – not bad for such a ‘straight- talker’.
Whenever UKIP get called on anything they revert to type and blame the mystical 'liberal establishmnet' for trying to smear them.

Devildog

Do you seriously believe that Miliband will sit back and see a Conservative Government if it comes to that?

What is perhaps more interesting is that if Scotland does vote largely SNP as the polls predict, the SNP could well have the third highest number of seats in Westminster and there may not be enough seats held by any other party to form a coallition with either Labour or the Conservatives with an overall majority.

Which gives us a hung parliament with no overall majority, and the SNP holding the cards in any subsequent vote.

Toothless? not quite Rob.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

But Martin this sort of behaviour is EXACTLY what all the other parties have been doing for decades and on a far greater scale yet you have intimated on here you are prepared to vote for at least one of them.

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

On a related note I see Cameron is prepared to put into law that there will be no income tax or VAT rises during the next government should he be elected. That is possibly the stupidest and most desperate move in this election so far.

I really wish he would just **** off, he's a dangerous and divisive man as well as a complete liar!

RS_Matt

You have to be careful though Martin insinuating that only whites are "racist" as we are seeing more and more people of a foreign background wishing to leave the EU for fears of their neo-cultures becoming diluted or supplanted. It's not just "indigenous xenophobia!" Also you'd have to be a pretty loyal child of the earth to not have population number worries and the perpetual claims of things such as UKIP appeal to racists, UKIP are a (mainly) white party and target white areas (even though in theory they transcend race by targeting vulnerable Tory seats) will deter the multi-ethnic vote and stop the wheels from turning in the first place...

Sometimes I wonder why the "r" word even springs up.

I'm worried about this BNP support defection angle, UKIP have far more supporters than the completely different kettle of fish in the "white supremacist BNP," it's insignificant. A bigger worry to fascism in the UK is Britain First garnering over 710,000 likes and shaping people's ideals. They are even directing a hate campaign towards Khalid Khan a Muslim UKIP MP this week, yes "Muslim."

The biggest argument against UKIP is they are racist or could turn racist, tbh I could post 5 Labour quotes now off the top of my head that make them look very very anti-white indigenous English.

Tackling extremism is one thing, and should be explicitly focused, but certain factions clearly have other agendas.

As for the NHS and our Armed Forces UKIP top the polls. Again it shows people are scared of change or in your case Martin, mistrusting.

Maybe if we had to vote for Policies and were not told which parties planned them =

https://www.facebook.com/nigelfarage...type=1&theater

neil-h

Sums up my thoughts on Farage quite nicely.

warrenm2

What do you think Farage has lied about?

f1_fan

iTrader: (9)

Serious question though Neil, do you really think putting a law of no tax rises in place is a good idea? I don't! It smacks of desperation to me!

jonc

Of the leaders debate last night, I thought Cameron sounded the most convincing on welfare and immigration and for business/economy. Clegg did ok too at trying to defend his record and the putting the country before his party, but Milliband, what a joke and so stubborn, very telling with regards to him denial of the overspending of the previous Labour government and his stance on the EU/immigration and UK businesses, he was playing to the audience by trying to asking the names of audience and dishing out soundbites. Plus he's pretty much shot himself in the foot; he'll never get into No. 10 with out a coalition unless there is a massive swing of Labour votes which is never going to happen. There is going to be a huge increase in the number tactical voting instead of voting for the party you want to lead in the coming election.

Farage also very convincing and the only straight talking politician out there at the moment, but I can't bring myself to vote for them due to the nut jobs in and supporting UKIP.

neil-h

I haven't decided yet, I just don't trust him.

Nope, not at all. The economy is far too fluid for implementing a law like that possibly be a good idea. Economic arguments aside, it is quite clearly a vote winner aimed at those too daft to see it for what it is.

warrenm2

So you just thought you'd throw around baseless insults? Is that your idea of integrity?

dpb

Bizarre Idea , even Tories waverers know it isn't going to happen

neil-h

It's quite clearly an opinion which I've already stated is based on little more than gut feeling. Not too dissimilar to a lot of comments in this thread. I didn't realise the UKIP mob wanted to ban that too