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Old 16 August 2015, 08:32 PM
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I was looking for a swap on the sti spoiler but this is growing on me :|





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Old 16 August 2015, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Blue by You
At least an STi might get to 150mph.
Old 16 August 2015, 08:38 PM
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I had a uk300 spoiler on my spec d but i shaved the stupid points of the top of the blade
Old 16 August 2015, 08:41 PM
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Default Newage STI Rear Wing - starting to look a bit silly

Originally Posted by Milneragain
I think that it is more the case that you are worrying too much about what other people think about you having an impreza at your age.

Why are you worried about what other people think?

Basing what you drive on your perception of what other people may think will start with you changing the spoiler & exhaust, but will end up with you driving a bland mobile just to fit in, & you will not be happy, but you will fit in. You will become a sheep, following the rest of the flock.

Driving an impreza is about going your own way, being an individual, despite what the people around you may think, or even because of the way the people around you may think.

You are being a bit of a rebel driving an Impreza these days, when fuel is so expensive, & the government is putting the motor tax up to ridiculous levels, & trying to get everybody to be happy driving a 1.0 ****-box. You are refusing to give in, no matter what pressure is put on you to drive a ****-box.

The spoiler & loud exhaust on the impreza set it apart from other cars, but to me that is the whole point of having an impreza. You should be proud of that spoiler & loud exhaust.

Without them the impreza is just another car...baa...baa.
Not really bothered what others think. I personally just think the sti spoiler is just a bit over the top.
Old 16 August 2015, 08:43 PM
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It looks like a pram handle, the first thing I did on both my newage STi's was replace it !
Old 16 August 2015, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by riiidaa
Hardly "went to town on it" did I I've done more to the cars bodywork than tuning.

Nailed a few more Sti bits on it did you?
Old 16 August 2015, 09:20 PM
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Buy a car, nail parts from another more expensive car to it, then complain about the other cars parts being nailed to your car and it not working for you.
Old 16 August 2015, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Trinity
Buy a car, nail parts from another more expensive car to it, then complain about the other cars parts being nailed to your car and it not working for you.
Old 16 August 2015, 09:46 PM
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Wrx spoilers are heidious id rather have no spoiler. And all the others are horrible The newage sti spoiler is the best spoiler for a newage. Period

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Old 16 August 2015, 09:57 PM
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I like the 300 wing, still think it looks great. Slimwiltaz car looks awesome. I def want one.

I like spec d's,all the benefits of an sti whilst not drawing all the usual attention and you get a few extra creature comforts along the way too. A wolf in sheeps clothing has always been the best way.
Old 16 August 2015, 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by south_scoob
Wrx spoilers are heidious id rather have no spoiler. And all the others are horrible The newage sti spoiler is the best spoiler for a newage. Period
He's back with another quality post!
Old 16 August 2015, 10:34 PM
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I think it all comes down to personal taste. I know there's no real point in comparing the Classic shape to newage, but I've been through a few different looks and still struggling to think what looks best...











Old 16 August 2015, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Trinity
He's back with another quality post!
Yup having a moment are you? Because i praised the sti wing

Looking at it i think the wrx spoiler could actuly be nicer then that horrific uk 300 one
Old 17 August 2015, 11:13 AM
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And the end of the day they all are original spoilers, so its up to you which you prefer.
Old 17 August 2015, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Donnie Brasco 46
I'd like to see a STi take a corner at 150 mph and take advantage of that downforce.
You realise that 140lbs at 150mph does not mean that the wing generates zero downforce at 149mph?

60lbs quoted at 100mph.

These are still insignificants amount of downforce really, but also the calculations only take into account the top element of the wing, and not the flared base.
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Originally Posted by Fonzey
You realise that 140lbs at 150mph does not mean that the wing generates zero downforce at 149mph?

60lbs quoted at 100mph.

These are still insignificants amount of downforce really, but also the calculations only take into account the top element of the wing, and not the flared base.
The blade on sti wing looks like it would actuly create lift the way its angled back
Old 17 August 2015, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by south_scoob
The blade on sti wing looks like it would actuly create lift the way its angled back
Explain the principles of 'lift' for us, without looking at Google
Old 17 August 2015, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by south_scoob
The blade on sti wing looks like it would actuly create lift the way its angled back

I think the aerofoil shape of the wing creates downforce while the upswept flare of the lower section of the wing adds to the total. I don't believe the wing is angled back though, certainly mine isn't.
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Originally Posted by Paben
I think the aerofoil shape of the wing creates downforce while the upswept flare of the lower section of the wing adds to the total. I don't believe the wing is angled back though, certainly mine isn't.
Sounds like he has a fake ebay 'WRX owners' wing
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Need an MS Paint interpretation really to know what is meant by "angled back". The shape of my wings base is certainly the shape/angle to encourage downforce rather than lift.

I'm sure Subaru put at least some thought into the aero on the car. It's a boxy saloon at the end of the day, so it's not been built around an aero philosophy - the wing has just been bolted on to add stability.

There was an interesting thread knocking around somewhere, possibly NASIOC which explained the scoop size on the blobeye and why it was so much bigger than the classics, bugs or hawks. It was all a result of wind tunnel testing and the stubbier front nose of the Blobeye causing a low pressure point where the smaller shape scoop should be collecting air.
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Off topic I know, but it would be interesting to know how/if downforce would change were the front of the car to be lowered slightly more than the rear.
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I meen the blade slopes downwards towards the road hence you get the two devil horns either side. So it resembles a aeroplane wing with the air pushing up on the bottom of the blade. Im sure there would be little to no airflow to the bottom section of the spoiler so id go with the therie that theres little to no downforce produced
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Originally Posted by south_scoob
I meen the blade slopes downwards towards the road hence you get the two devil horns either side. So it resembles a aeroplane wing with the air pushing up on the bottom of the blade. Im sure there would be little to no airflow to the bottom section of the spoiler so id go with the therie that theres little to no downforce produced

Don't know how your car is set up buddy but mine (and the many others I've seen) don't tilt backwards as you suggest. Were it to do so it would certainly generate lift rather than downforce, but it doesn't. Perhaps the suspension set up on a WRX means a fitted Sti wing slopes the wrong way? Good reason to stick with the proper WRX wing if that's the case.
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He blatantly has a fake spoiler. LMAO.
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Originally Posted by Trinity
He blatantly has a fake spoiler. LMAO.

He's an easy target for you, instead of laughing your backside off you might try giving him a break
Old 17 August 2015, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Paben
He's an easy target for you, instead of laughing your backside off you might try giving him a break
Before you strop your bollocks off, have a look at his previous posts. When a person tries to mug someone off and fails royally, he deserves the payback
Old 17 August 2015, 06:31 PM
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I've got a standard new age WRX wing in WR blue going in Essex if anyone wants.
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Originally Posted by Trinity
Before you strop your bollocks off, have a look at his previous posts. When a person tries to mug someone off and fails royally, he deserves the payback

Oh, in that case well done you then. I'm sure it gives an intellectual giant like yourself great satisfaction to teach him a well deserved lesson
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Originally Posted by Paben
Don't know how your car is set up buddy but mine (and the many others I've seen) don't tilt backwards as you suggest. Were it to do so it would certainly generate lift rather than downforce, but it doesn't. Perhaps the suspension set up on a WRX means a fitted Sti wing slopes the wrong way? Good reason to stick with the proper WRX wing if that's the case.
Its nothing to do with the suspention. Look at your spoiler the front edge slops back. In a propper race car spoiler it would be sloping the other way. Either im seeing things and its flat as a pancake or it is actuly sloping it cant be making any meeningfull downforce. They do look good tho
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Originally Posted by south_scoob
Its nothing to do with the suspention. Look at your spoiler the front edge slops back. In a propper race car spoiler it would be sloping the other way. Either im seeing things and its flat as a pancake or it is actuly sloping it cant be making any meeningfull downforce. They do look good tho

Yours might slope back, mine doesn't and I've not seen one that does. Why would Subaru fit a downforce wing that actually had lift?


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