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Old 19 September 2015, 04:24 PM
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just read today the eu has logged 214000 of them in may june july only 44000 where reported to come from syria fleeing war
Old 19 September 2015, 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
The BBC have been reporting the trouble at border posts all week, including the things you say they're not reporting. I think you somehow manage to convince yourself of something, then only see what you want to see.
Martin, I'm sorry, but the things I'm recounting have happened this last month.

The BBC DID NOT report any of them. Fact.

Now you can go into your, "no it isn't, no it doesn't, no it wasn't", Fast Show character mode all you want, but you won't alter the facts.
Old 19 September 2015, 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by madscoob
just read today the eu has logged 214000 of them in may june july only 44000 where reported to come from syria fleeing war
Aye, where's the others coming from?

And what have we done to stir up trouble there, so we "should" have them?

One interviewed last week was from Pakistan. The interview wasn't shown on the later news. Surprise surprise.

And afaik, there is neither war, nor famine in Pakistan?

Like I said, we are being conned and the deniers on here are part of the problem.
Old 19 September 2015, 05:47 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11451718
Old 19 September 2015, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-south-asia-11451718
So the entire country of Pakistan has been taken over by the Taliban to the extent the only safe place for people to escape them is Europe, 3000 miles away? What the hell are you smoking?
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Originally Posted by markjmd
So the entire country of Pakistan has been taken over by the Taliban to the extent the only safe place for people to escape them is Europe, 3000 miles away? What the hell are you smoking?
seeing as 90% of the worlds heroin production comes from pakistan and afganistan, I WONDER WHY THE UK AND US GOVERMENT would want more of them in europe, only 1 answer to that question
Old 19 September 2015, 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Well EXCUSE me for watching other European TV than the Beeb!!

If that's a conspiracy website, I'll be a migrant myself!

So the FACT that I have seen NONE of those things reported by the Beeb and ALL of them reported on french and German TV makes it a conspiracy?

I think not. I think YOU are seeing conspiracy where there is none.

And I reiterate: IF it's happening (and it patently IS), and the Beeb aren't reporting it, (which they patently AREN'T), two questions:

WHY are they choosing to hide it and what ought to be done about their biased reporting? Because there's no doubt that they ARE stirring up a wave of sympathy for what are, in most cases, economic migrants.

Some of whom are, by dint of the above, going to be invited to come here and then are going to need state support, when we can hardly afford to support our own.

And some of whom just MIGHT be ISIS????
Yeah I get it - and I teach my children my this

Its called the "I'm all right jack" argument

And you know what, they get it too

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Old 20 September 2015, 08:22 AM
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I was listening to Croatian radio yesterday, now I'm not able to translate word for word but I do understand most of what's said. There were over 2000 more turned up yesterday and the Croatian Red Cross is struggling to take care of them, 6 of the borders they're heading towards in the whole region have been closed and from what I gather there's total chaos at all of them and similar numbers turning up at each border every day.

On a funny note, Croatian government put out an appeal for people to let them know about any buildings that are not being put to good use to house the refugees, one reply was Croatian parliament building.
Old 20 September 2015, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by hodgy0_2
Yeah I get it - and I teach my children my this

Its called the "I'm all right jack" argument

And you know what, they get it too
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Old 20 September 2015, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
It does, methinks

I think he's saying that he tells his kids to look after themselves number one, and not to give a ferk about anyone else.

I also think that he's pith taking by saying that.

I may be completely wrong, mind.
Old 20 September 2015, 07:41 PM
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Whatever.

he's missed both the original point of this thread, which is that the ex-Eastern Bloc, despite have emigrated en-masse, do NOT want the new wave of migrants in their countries and even less spread across Europe.

And that the BBC has been lying by omission, apparently in order to create a wave of sympathy for the economic migrants descending on us, who may turn out, in part, to be rather different to what we thought.

If that makes my attitude "I'm alright Jack" fair enough, I can live with it.
Old 20 September 2015, 07:50 PM
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isnt the crux the argument here the "lying be omission "

..we didnt actually get where we are today by playing fair.

If you want the ful picture you have to pick and choose - and im sure the majority do just that
Old 21 September 2015, 08:43 AM
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Conspiracy thoeries aside, it would be very remiss of ISIL to ignore such an easy opportunity to penetrate its declared target countries. ISIL reps need just to tag along with the migrant invasion of western Europe, keeping their heads down, and once they are in place we'd better watch out. They show their own people no mercy, I doubt we'll get much either.
Old 21 September 2015, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by dpb
isnt the crux the argument here the "lying be omission "

..we didnt actually get where we are today by playing fair.

If you want the ful picture you have to pick and choose - and im sure the majority do just that
I agree....but the crux of one of my posts was a) WHY are the BBC doing it, and b) ought they not to face punishment for it, IF it all goes pear shaped and we end up with attacks by those to whom we seek to give refuge?

I still feel the same way, and would love to know who told the Beeb to hide stuff, and why?
Old 22 September 2015, 08:19 PM
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Merkel seems to have gone strangely quiet after fuelling this whole fiasco with her 'refugees welcome' rhetoric.

Reminds me of those stories you read where a teenager has advertised a party on Facebook when the parents are away expecting 30 people to turn up, then 2000 turn up and wreak the place!

EU has now agreed on 'forced relocation' of migrants throughout EU countries, pushed through by that lunatic Junkner, despite opposition from many countries. That's going to turn out well Forcing countries to accept people they don't want, and secondly the migrants want to cherry pick the richest countries in the EU like Germany etc, so they won't want to be moved on either.

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Old 22 September 2015, 08:30 PM
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Have you seen the mess left behind,there like gypsies .....
Old 23 September 2015, 04:04 AM
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30,000 at and around the Croatian border, over 700 lorries parked on the motorways and roads leading there. Total chaos, riot police everywhere and more migrants being shipped in by the day, from Macedonia, Serbia, Turkey, they are expecting in the region of 8,000 more in the next couple of days.

All this for a country with a similar population and size to Wales, the ones being interviewed all speak `english and either want to go to Germany, Austria, or GB.

It's already cost in the region of 20m euros (not exactly sure what that's been spent on) but it's a bit of a national emergency, they're walking along the roads and people are giving them food and drink, seems to be a constant stream of them all heading this way, camps have been set up for them, because as the title of this thread suggests, the eastern block countries don't want them.

Need to do something to house these people as it's already getting a bit of a chill on that side and will be well into the minuses overnight in the next couple of weeks.

Still in the mid to high 20's where I am though.
Old 23 September 2015, 08:56 AM
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Couldn't help but notice yesterday whilst bbc filming journalist in front ship in lesbos ? The cameraman couldn't help himself panning round as a particularly well fed geezer passed in front , on his way to give something ( maybe sausage roll) to his fellow afflictees.
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Nice to see bit of balanced journalism
Old 23 September 2015, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
and secondly the migrants want to cherry pick the richest countries in the EU like Germany etc, so they won't want to be moved on either.
That's going to be where the real fun starts. It'll be interesting to see what happens when they get divvied out and sent to places like Spain/Greece/Poland/Romania.
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heres a thought to add to the mix, are the ex eastern block countries stalling for time, knowing full well cold weather is coming, and the immigrants will be begging to be shipped back home as it's to cold for them ?
Old 23 September 2015, 06:58 PM
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Its snows there as well
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Not like it does in Poland, Latvia, Lithuania etc, though?
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eritrea min temp jan/dec about 4to6degc at night,
https://weather-and-climate.com/aver...Asmara,Eritrea bit warmer than hungary don't you think, it was only a thought anyhow, bear in mind the news has shown pictures of lot's of them topless or in shorts and teeshirts it's only a question of time and a few degrees

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Apparently the migrants are going to be shared out, at least the ones that are here are anyway, even Serbia are going to have to take some, as they're trying to get into the EU at the moment and have been pulled up on their treatment of migrants by the Croatian government ( some history going on there) but also all the others that have been knocking them back along the way like Bosnia are going to have a few thousand. Doubt that's going to sit well considering all the migrants are already declairing they want to go to UK, germany and Austria.

Going to get interesting when they all realise they're off to the likes of Serbia and Bosnia.
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Forking el , will you give over . How many Eritrean faces are you seeing in the hordes , proportionately ?
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about 10% according to yahoo thats about 34thousand so far
and 9out of 10 crossing the med to italy
http://news.yahoo.com/europes-migran...165210871.html
about halfway down the page they give the numbers and where they are from

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Originally Posted by madscoob
about 10% according to yahoo thats about 34thousand so far
and 9out of 10 crossing the med to italy
http://news.yahoo.com/europes-migran...165210871.html
And on that note, I have said it before, but my best mate lives in Italy, just outside Milan, when I first went there I was a novelty being "of colour" 8yrs ago, now the place is snided out with darkies and I **** you not when I say they are ******* everywhere. It's gone from a place where you could leave your keys in the car overnight and nothing would happen to a complete nightmare, crime is up by like 500% and every night all the bins get tipped onto the street by gypsies and all sorts looking for goodies, consequently the place has gone from a model of tidyness to a **** tip, so much so that people now wait until the bin men come to put the rubbish outside.

House burglaries once unheard of are common place now and the locals feel as though they are under siege.

Not good.
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As long as the cun!s doesn't come to Wales, I don't give a ****!!






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ditch shhhhhhhhhhhhhh the lefties on here don't like nasty facts coming from personal experiences, the truth hurts


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