Notices
Computer & Technology Related Post here for help and discussion of computing and related technology. Internet, TVs, phones, consoles, computers, tablets and any other gadgets.

Windows 10?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 21 September 2015, 06:36 PM
  #31  
Geezer
Scooby Senior
 
Geezer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: North Wales
Posts: 5,826
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I'v upgraded 3 laptops we have, all from Win 8.1. No issues whatsoever, I find Win 10 much more pleasant than 8.1.

I'm still debating whether to upgrade the desktop from Win 7 though, just in case I break it, not because it's Win 10!
Old 21 September 2015, 06:38 PM
  #32  
riiidaa
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
riiidaa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Near Croydon
Posts: 3,349
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Geezer
I'v upgraded 3 laptops we have, all from Win 8.1. No issues whatsoever, I find Win 10 much more pleasant than 8.1.

I'm still debating whether to upgrade the desktop from Win 7 though, just in case I break it, not because it's Win 10!
Get it done
Old 22 September 2015, 01:37 PM
  #33  
hardcoreimpreza
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
 
hardcoreimpreza's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: uk
Posts: 379
Received 9 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

So is there a choice of windows layout like 8.1? Eg standard windows screen or the title layout.
Old 22 September 2015, 01:50 PM
  #34  
Littleted
Scooby Regular
 
Littleted's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Leeds
Posts: 4,062
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by hardcoreimpreza
Is there a choice of windows layout like 8.1? Eg standard windows screen or the title layout.
it dosnt have the tiled screen as such now unless you click it, it starts like good old windows 7 did.... proper desktop
Old 22 September 2015, 08:24 PM
  #35  
mickywrx
Unmapped 12.4s @ 105
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (29)
 
mickywrx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Newcastle. 330bhp-289lb/ft @ 1bar boost - 12.4s @ 105mph
Posts: 11,776
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
Post

Originally Posted by Geezer
I'v upgraded 3 laptops we have, all from Win 8.1. No issues whatsoever, I find Win 10 much more pleasant than 8.1.

I'm still debating whether to upgrade the desktop from Win 7 though, just in case I break it, not because it's Win 10!
I upgraded my desktop from Win 7, and bar a couple of minor niggles, it's been fine. I'm far from computer savvy, and I managed it.
Old 22 September 2015, 09:31 PM
  #36  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,038
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

I think this write up sums it quite well:

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07...will_be_happy/
Old 22 September 2015, 10:03 PM
  #37  
jaygsi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (46)
 
jaygsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 14,530
Received 257 Likes on 223 Posts
Default Windows 10?

I've decided against windows 10 after reading this in link posted.

Microsoft's spying on you is pretty awful. Windows 10 calls home with essentially every last thing you do and search for by default. Finding and disarming all the different ways Microsoft spies on you is difficult at best, and a futile game of whack-a-mole at worst.

It is perhaps not fair to project the experiences of participating in the open beta onto the release version of Windows 10, but I did get pretty sick of having to go in and defang Microsoft's creepy doll Cortana spymaster every time a major patch came out.

The NSA can go straight to hell, as can any company slurping up my info into data centres where that data can be easily "requisitioned". I may not be able to keep the NSA out of my data, but I do intend to make the poxy whoresons work for it!
Old 23 September 2015, 09:19 AM
  #38  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

For a list of things to disable have a read here:

http://windows.wonderhowto.com/how-t...ws-10-0163552/
Old 23 September 2015, 03:42 PM
  #39  
jaygsi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (46)
 
jaygsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 14,530
Received 257 Likes on 223 Posts
Default Windows 10?

Wow there's a lot to disable there. Cheers for link though.
Old 23 September 2015, 03:59 PM
  #40  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by jaygsi
Wow there's a lot to disable there. Cheers for link though.
No probs, basically do that lot and Windows 10 will be fine and not giving your life's details to Microsoft.
Old 23 September 2015, 09:28 PM
  #41  
boomer
Scooby Senior
 
boomer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 5,763
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
No probs, basically do that lot and Windows 10 will be fine and not giving your life's details to Microsoft.
...until the next Windows update, when settings are "reset" without letting you know!

I have lost all trust in Microsoft after reading about some of the stuff in Windows 10 (some of which seems to be retrospectively being applied to 7 and 8)

mb
Old 23 September 2015, 10:01 PM
  #42  
dpb
Scooby Regular
 
dpb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: riding the crest of a wave ...
Posts: 46,493
Likes: 0
Received 13 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

How can they do that, without asking you
Old 23 September 2015, 10:12 PM
  #43  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by boomer
...until the next Windows update, when settings are "reset" without letting you know!

I have lost all trust in Microsoft after reading about some of the stuff in Windows 10 (some of which seems to be retrospectively being applied to 7 and 8)

mb
Have you got proof of that happening?
Old 23 September 2015, 10:18 PM
  #44  
hodgy0_2
Scooby Regular
 
hodgy0_2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: K
Posts: 15,633
Received 21 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

It will be interesting when the tech companies face a backlash against these data harvesting tactics from consumers

Or maybe people will simply accept it as a price for "convenience"
Old 24 September 2015, 10:34 AM
  #45  
jaygsi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (46)
 
jaygsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 14,530
Received 257 Likes on 223 Posts
Default

I'd like to see proof of that to. Means i'd have to check checking for updates. I'm sure people will accept it. Most people do now with smart phones and Inyourfacebook, thats one reason i dislike Android as theres no options to stop apps using your camera pictures etc. Even the scoobynet app uses your location? What for? Luckily with the Iphone your can turn it all off.

Even xbox kinect is a nosey peice of tech. In the the terms there can use any back ground noise, so even if your not using your xbox they can use micro phone maybe even camera.

Last edited by jaygsi; 24 September 2015 at 10:35 AM.
Old 24 September 2015, 10:36 AM
  #46  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

My settings have all remained as I have set them hence asking for evidence of this happening as i'm not seeing it on my machines.
Old 28 September 2015, 04:22 PM
  #47  
Wurzel
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (1)
 
Wurzel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Wildberg, Germany/Reading, UK
Posts: 9,707
Likes: 0
Received 73 Likes on 54 Posts
Default

Microsoft intensifies data collection on Windows 7 and 8 systems
This changed recently with the release of several updates for both operating systems that step up the game.
  • KB3068708 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
  • KB3022345 (replaced by KB3068708) Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This update introduces the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to in-market devices. By applying this service, you can add benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet been upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
  • KB3075249 Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 - This update adds telemetry points to the User Account Control (UAC) feature to collect information on elevations that come from low integrity levels. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
  • KB3080149 Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry - This package updates the Diagnostics and Telemetry tracking service to existing devices. This service provides benefits from the latest version of Windows to systems that have not yet upgraded. The update also supports applications that are subscribed to Visual Studio Application Insights. (Windows 8.1, Windows RT 8.1, Windows Server 2012 R2, Windows 7 Service Pack 1 (SP1), and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1)
If these updates are installed on the system, data is sent to Microsoft regularly about various activities on it.
Microsoft lists two host names in KB3068708 that data is received from and sent to:
  • vortex-win.data.microsoft.com
  • settings-win.data.microsoft.com
Old 02 October 2015, 10:14 AM
  #48  
Geezer
Scooby Senior
 
Geezer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: North Wales
Posts: 5,826
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mickywrx
I upgraded my desktop from Win 7, and bar a couple of minor niggles, it's been fine. I'm far from computer savvy, and I managed it.

Well, I did the Win 7 desktop. Disaster! It completely screwed it. Office was so knackered you couldn't run the repair or the uninstall. Lots of other stuff complained about licences. The AV software was knackered. The evnt view just showed hundreds of errors, looks like it screwed the registry.


Went back to Win 7, all works fine, which is a shame because I really like Windows 10. Hey ho
Old 05 October 2015, 11:15 AM
  #49  
jaygsi
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (46)
 
jaygsi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: uk
Posts: 14,530
Received 257 Likes on 223 Posts
Default

So how do i block these updates from receiving my data on windows 7 and 8?
Old 20 October 2015, 09:51 PM
  #50  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

How many processes are you guys running generally in 10 with say a couple of browsers open, some folders, a usual working days setup?

Mine is running @ around 125-130 just with email and a couple instances of Chrome open (and 3-4 tabs on each), which seems a tad high? I have CCleaner, geforce util, some other bits n pieces running in the tasktray.
Old 20 October 2015, 10:09 PM
  #51  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

I'm running 88 with Outlook and Firefox open (26 tabs) and a host of stuff in the system tray such as onedrive/icloud/dropbox/kaspersky etc
Old 20 October 2015, 10:18 PM
  #52  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

mmm, FFox is better than Chrome on that front, but with Chrome closed i'm still running 106 processes. I have 11 apps running in the tasktray, so even with those stopped its still about 95
Old 21 October 2015, 10:40 AM
  #53  
An0n0m0us
Scooby Regular
 
An0n0m0us's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: UK
Posts: 3,600
Received 29 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

I've checked on my desktop this morning xps8700 and it's only running 71 again with outlook open and a shed load of firefox tabs and loads in the system tray. So above was my laptop and that seems to run more stuff with the same apps open so must be drivers and system utilities running in the background.
Old 21 October 2015, 03:18 PM
  #54  
ALi-B
Moderator
Support Scoobynet!
iTrader: (1)
 
ALi-B's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: The hell where youth and laughter go
Posts: 38,038
Received 301 Likes on 240 Posts
Default

Hmm...I'm currently running 84 processes; thats with FF open and a few background services for the diagnostic and oscilloscope drivers.
Old 21 October 2015, 06:28 PM
  #55  
bioforger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
bioforger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Pig Hill, Wiltsh1te
Posts: 16,995
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
I've checked on my desktop this morning xps8700 and it's only running 71 again with outlook open and a shed load of firefox tabs and loads in the system tray. So above was my laptop and that seems to run more stuff with the same apps open so must be drivers and system utilities running in the background.
Yes, i have a few things like that, for my logitech kb/mouse, ssd, intel chipset app, bluetooth etc. I guess it is machine/hw specific.
Old 13 November 2015, 08:20 PM
  #56  
daviee
Scooby Regular
 
daviee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Massive update last night almost like the upgrade from 8.1 to 10, I am loving windows 10 now even edge running smooth now
Old 13 November 2015, 08:57 PM
  #57  
Simes777
Scooby Regular
 
Simes777's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Aylesbury
Posts: 437
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Have they added the ability to order favourites alphabetically now or do you still have to do that manually??
Old 13 November 2015, 09:23 PM
  #58  
daviee
Scooby Regular
 
daviee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 1,106
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Simes777
Have they added the ability to order favourites alphabetically now or do you still have to do that manually??
On IE still time listed on mine don't mind that.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
KAS35RSTI
Subaru
27
04 November 2021 07:12 PM
Mattybr5@MB Developments
Full Cars Breaking For Spares
12
18 November 2015 07:03 AM
hardcoreimpreza
Computer & Technology Related
21
11 October 2015 03:40 PM
FuZzBoM
Wheels, Tyres & Brakes
16
04 October 2015 09:49 PM
Ganz1983
Subaru
5
02 October 2015 09:22 AM



Quick Reply: Windows 10?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 08:46 PM.