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A very long read but it sums up the way Islam is heading .........
A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true *****, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true *****,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the ***** were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.
My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).
The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.
In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.
In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.
As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.
So, I beg you, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on in the hope that thousands, world-wide, read this, think about it, and send it on - before it's too late . . .. because we remained silent
A German's View on Islam - worth reading because this is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist--a man, whose family was German aristocracy prior t...o World War II, and owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true *****, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.
'Very few people were true *****,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the ***** were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of our world had come.
My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.
China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual, prior to World War II, was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians, most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt. Yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late.
Islamic prayers have now been introduced into Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa too while the Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive?! To whom? Not to the vast majority of Canadians!).
The Islamic way is only peaceful until the fanatics move in.
In Australia, and indeed in many countries around the world, many of the most commonly consumed food items have the halal emblem on them. Just look at the back of some of the most popular chocolate bars, and at other food products in your local supermarket. Foods on aircraft have the halal emblem, just to appease the privileged minority who are now rapidly expanding throughout the world.
In the U.K, the Muslim communities refuse to integrate and there are now dozens of ?no-go? zones within major cities across the country that the police force dare not intrude upon. Sharia law prevails there, because the Muslim community in those areas refuses to acknowledge British law.
As for we who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts -- the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Anyone who doubts the seriousness of this issue and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.
So, I beg you, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on in the hope that thousands, world-wide, read this, think about it, and send it on - before it's too late . . .. because we remained silent
15 November 2015, 03:36 PM
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http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/germanislam.asp
Internet truths........
15 November 2015, 03:47 PM
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Unfortunately, this appears to be a hoax, Tanay had nothing to do with writing it, was Polish, and emigrated to the USA.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/germanislam.asp
Internet truths........
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/germanislam.asp
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Praying on the weak minded
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15 November 2015, 07:35 PM
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Unfortunately, this appears to be a hoax, Tanay had nothing to do with writing it, was Polish, and emigrated to the USA.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/germanislam.asp
Internet truths........
http://www.snopes.com/politics/soapbox/germanislam.asp
Internet truths........
Anyway as far as Islam goes, the stated aim is worldwide caliphate. Is that ongoing? Demonstrably yes, IS/ISIS have declared the new caliphate and are occupying territory. Demands for more Muslim "tolerance" which means no cartoons, suppressing free speech, halal meat, burquas, no pork, etc etc are commonplace and "normal" these days. No go areas and Sharia law becoming the norm. Mass importing of non natives, everyone having a valid "vibrant" culture except native whites. Mass rapes of young white girls in Rotherham, Oxford, Keighley, Derby, Rochdale, Oldham, Peterborough, Telford, High Wycombe, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Leeds, Bradford etc etc (See this for more) Meanwhile stupid dhimmi cvnts sit by and denounce any opposition to the destruction of the West as racist, "right wing" "fascists". Sorry, but destruction of society by a backward barbaric bunch of invaders, who think of our society as contemptuous, non believers as low life kuffur/infidel whos only purpose is to be oppressed by "superior" Muslims, that isn't going to happen with out a fight. Each attack just brings that day closer.
Internment isn't the answer, why keep them here? We must deport them, they have outstayed their welcome.....
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15 November 2015, 08:04 PM
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While we're all busy being outraged at the atrocities that have been committed by these few terrorists, please spare a thought for the innocent men, women and children that have been killed by allied forces in the name of democracy.
Just saying.
Just saying.
15 November 2015, 08:15 PM
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15 November 2015, 08:43 PM
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Does the source matter? Its an opinion piece, what's your take on the idea? Is it make false assumptions? Does it misrepresent what happened?
Anyway as far as democracy goes, the stated aim is worldwide democracy. Is that ongoing? Demonstrably yes, USA / alies have declared democracy and are occupying territory. Demands for more democracy which means more cartoons, free speech, no halal meat, no burquas, lots of pork, etc etc are commonplace and "normal" these days. go areas and US law becoming the norm. Mass importing of non natives, everyone having a valid "vibrant" culture except native Americans. young white girls in Rotherham wondering the streets dressed as hookers, Oxford, Keighley, Derby, Rochdale, Oldham, Peterborough, Telford, High Wycombe, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Leeds, Bradford etc etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathol...al_abuse_cases Meanwhile stupid dhimmi cvnts sit by and denounce any opposition to the destruction of the eastern culture as racist, "right wing" "fascists". Sorry, but destruction of society by a backward barbaric bunch of invaders, who think of our society as contemptuous, believers as low life rag heads whos only purpose is to be oppressed by "superior"christian democrates, that isn't going to happen with out a fight. Each attack just brings that day closer.
Internment isn't the answer, why let them come here? We must deport them, they have outstayed their welcome.....
Anyway as far as democracy goes, the stated aim is worldwide democracy. Is that ongoing? Demonstrably yes, USA / alies have declared democracy and are occupying territory. Demands for more democracy which means more cartoons, free speech, no halal meat, no burquas, lots of pork, etc etc are commonplace and "normal" these days. go areas and US law becoming the norm. Mass importing of non natives, everyone having a valid "vibrant" culture except native Americans. young white girls in Rotherham wondering the streets dressed as hookers, Oxford, Keighley, Derby, Rochdale, Oldham, Peterborough, Telford, High Wycombe, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Leeds, Bradford etc etc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cathol...al_abuse_cases Meanwhile stupid dhimmi cvnts sit by and denounce any opposition to the destruction of the eastern culture as racist, "right wing" "fascists". Sorry, but destruction of society by a backward barbaric bunch of invaders, who think of our society as contemptuous, believers as low life rag heads whos only purpose is to be oppressed by "superior"christian democrates, that isn't going to happen with out a fight. Each attack just brings that day closer.
Internment isn't the answer, why let them come here? We must deport them, they have outstayed their welcome.....
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15 November 2015, 08:47 PM
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Does the source matter? Its an opinion piece, what's your take on the idea? Is it make false assumptions? Does it misrepresent what happened?
Anyway as far as Islam goes, the stated aim is worldwide caliphate. Is that ongoing? Demonstrably yes, IS/ISIS have declared the new caliphate and are occupying territory. Demands for more Muslim "tolerance" which means no cartoons, suppressing free speech, halal meat, burquas, no pork, etc etc are commonplace and "normal" these days. No go areas and Sharia law becoming the norm. Mass importing of non natives, everyone having a valid "vibrant" culture except native whites. Mass rapes of young white girls in Rotherham, Oxford, Keighley, Derby, Rochdale, Oldham, Peterborough, Telford, High Wycombe, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Leeds, Bradford etc etc (See this for more) Meanwhile stupid dhimmi cvnts sit by and denounce any opposition to the destruction of the West as racist, "right wing" "fascists". Sorry, but destruction of society by a backward barbaric bunch of invaders, who think of our society as contemptuous, non believers as low life kuffur/infidel whos only purpose is to be oppressed by "superior" Muslims, that isn't going to happen with out a fight. Each attack just brings that day closer.
Internment isn't the answer, why keep them here? We must deport them, they have outstayed their welcome.....
Anyway as far as Islam goes, the stated aim is worldwide caliphate. Is that ongoing? Demonstrably yes, IS/ISIS have declared the new caliphate and are occupying territory. Demands for more Muslim "tolerance" which means no cartoons, suppressing free speech, halal meat, burquas, no pork, etc etc are commonplace and "normal" these days. No go areas and Sharia law becoming the norm. Mass importing of non natives, everyone having a valid "vibrant" culture except native whites. Mass rapes of young white girls in Rotherham, Oxford, Keighley, Derby, Rochdale, Oldham, Peterborough, Telford, High Wycombe, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Leeds, Bradford etc etc (See this for more) Meanwhile stupid dhimmi cvnts sit by and denounce any opposition to the destruction of the West as racist, "right wing" "fascists". Sorry, but destruction of society by a backward barbaric bunch of invaders, who think of our society as contemptuous, non believers as low life kuffur/infidel whos only purpose is to be oppressed by "superior" Muslims, that isn't going to happen with out a fight. Each attack just brings that day closer.
Internment isn't the answer, why keep them here? We must deport them, they have outstayed their welcome.....
This wouldn't be out of place in 1930s Germany
15 November 2015, 09:00 PM
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Thank goodness we haven't had the old "false flag" nonesense on this thread, not that I have seen any way
But it will be there YouTube videos announcing "proof"
Anyway The long quote above is interesting, I am not surprised it is a internet meme, so much b0llocks on the Internet but on the other hand as people have said its point/content stands independent of that
Which seems to be a derivation of
"It has been said that for evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing"
I have some sympathy with
But as I said on Jtaylor "incredible rhyming man " thread - I think that religion is a "proxy" in this power struggle
But it will be there YouTube videos announcing "proof"
Anyway The long quote above is interesting, I am not surprised it is a internet meme, so much b0llocks on the Internet but on the other hand as people have said its point/content stands independent of that
Which seems to be a derivation of
"It has been said that for evil men to accomplish their purpose it is only necessary that good men should do nothing"
I have some sympathy with
But as I said on Jtaylor "incredible rhyming man " thread - I think that religion is a "proxy" in this power struggle
15 November 2015, 10:00 PM
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I'm pretty sure I've already said everything I need to, if you take a look at your post that I edited.
But hey if you think being challenged in the same way you challenge others is just "more noise" then that says a whole lot more about you than it does me.
The ability to look at situations from both sides is obviously something that alludes you.
We wouldn't be in this situation if we'd have stayed out of other peoples countries.
Did people seriously think that bombing and invading other countries wouldn't have any consequences.
So now when they retaliate, they're the bad guys, hey seriously take a look in the mirror and ask yourself, if some foreign force dropped bombs on your homeland what response do you think UK citizens and the government would offer, sit back and take it.
Why would you expect these people to take being bombed and invaded by ground troops and do nothing about it.
Like it or not, approve of their methods and targets or not, we are at war and the enemy is trying to fight back with odds stacked against them, by any means necessary, do you think they will just stand in the middle of the desert with an AK47 shouting come on then while allied forces bomb them from 10,000 feet.
We started it, simples, now were just getting some of what we have done to them back.
Life's a be hatch.
But hey if you think being challenged in the same way you challenge others is just "more noise" then that says a whole lot more about you than it does me.
The ability to look at situations from both sides is obviously something that alludes you.
We wouldn't be in this situation if we'd have stayed out of other peoples countries.
Did people seriously think that bombing and invading other countries wouldn't have any consequences.
So now when they retaliate, they're the bad guys, hey seriously take a look in the mirror and ask yourself, if some foreign force dropped bombs on your homeland what response do you think UK citizens and the government would offer, sit back and take it.
Why would you expect these people to take being bombed and invaded by ground troops and do nothing about it.
Like it or not, approve of their methods and targets or not, we are at war and the enemy is trying to fight back with odds stacked against them, by any means necessary, do you think they will just stand in the middle of the desert with an AK47 shouting come on then while allied forces bomb them from 10,000 feet.
We started it, simples, now were just getting some of what we have done to them back.
Life's a be hatch.
15 November 2015, 10:20 PM
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No, we didn't start it. The whole sh!tstorm we see now kicked off when terrorists crashed 2 airliners into the 2 WTC towers killing thousands of civillians and it's been on going ever since.
15 November 2015, 10:25 PM
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Are you for real.
Yes mate I can see it all so much more clearly now, the US were totally innocent victims and never conducted any sort of covert opperations in places like Afganistan.
Oh wait no sorry I got that wrong, it was the Russians that started all of this.
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Anyway, I can find something we agree on, we are at war. Question is what to do about it?
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I'm pretty sure I've already said everything I need to, if you take a look at your post that I edited.
But hey if you think being challenged in the same way you challenge others is just "more noise" then that says a whole lot more about you than it does me.
The ability to look at situations from both sides is obviously something that alludes you.
We wouldn't be in this situation if we'd have stayed out of other peoples countries.
Did people seriously think that bombing and invading other countries wouldn't have any consequences.
So now when they retaliate, they're the bad guys, hey seriously take a look in the mirror and ask yourself, if some foreign force dropped bombs on your homeland what response do you think UK citizens and the government would offer, sit back and take it.
Why would you expect these people to take being bombed and invaded by ground troops and do nothing about it.
Like it or not, approve of their methods and targets or not, we are at war and the enemy is trying to fight back with odds stacked against them, by any means necessary, do you think they will just stand in the middle of the desert with an AK47 shouting come on then while allied forces bomb them from 10,000 feet.
We started it, simples, now were just getting some of what we have done to them back.
Life's a be hatch.
But hey if you think being challenged in the same way you challenge others is just "more noise" then that says a whole lot more about you than it does me.
The ability to look at situations from both sides is obviously something that alludes you.
We wouldn't be in this situation if we'd have stayed out of other peoples countries.
Did people seriously think that bombing and invading other countries wouldn't have any consequences.
So now when they retaliate, they're the bad guys, hey seriously take a look in the mirror and ask yourself, if some foreign force dropped bombs on your homeland what response do you think UK citizens and the government would offer, sit back and take it.
Why would you expect these people to take being bombed and invaded by ground troops and do nothing about it.
Like it or not, approve of their methods and targets or not, we are at war and the enemy is trying to fight back with odds stacked against them, by any means necessary, do you think they will just stand in the middle of the desert with an AK47 shouting come on then while allied forces bomb them from 10,000 feet.
We started it, simples, now were just getting some of what we have done to them back.
Life's a be hatch.
It is obviously horrific that over 100 innocent people were killed in Paris, the MM will not let us all forget for a very long time about that terrible night in France.
But what about the 100,000's of innocent men women and children killed by our bombs in Syria,Iraq, Afghanistan to name a few, the thousands maimed and left homeless.......did our MM forget about these people, is it a case of they value lives differently or is it a case of out of sight out of mind.
Double standards.
Rip to all those who lost lives.
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15 November 2015, 10:57 PM
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The French Police mess up & release suspect.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2435601
Good to see Inspector Clouseau is still in charge.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2435601
Good to see Inspector Clouseau is still in charge.
15 November 2015, 11:20 PM
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If not for 9/11, what then would you say was the cause of the mobilsation of military force on a scale not seen since WWII? No where did I even allude to the US being innocent but I don't recall any Western aggression of bombs being dropped on any Middle Eastern country prior to 9/11 (bar Kuwait due to Iraq's invasion). Also I've never supported Bush/Blair's invasion of Afghanistant/Iraq but I'm sure they and everyone else never envisaged the rise of Islamic extremism/fundimentalism/radicalisation since 9/11. You have every right to disagree, but I see the attack on the WTC served as a catalyst to what we now see today.
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These terror attacks are causing a rise in the far right political parties.Spreading fear and loathing throughout Europe.
IS wants to create division throughout Europe.
Bombing IS will not fix the problem,too many radical muslims are preaching there hate to the weak minded waiting for the next suicide bombers to come out of the woodwork,the government should be patrolling the internet more to intercept these madmen before they strike .....
IS wants to create division throughout Europe.
Bombing IS will not fix the problem,too many radical muslims are preaching there hate to the weak minded waiting for the next suicide bombers to come out of the woodwork,the government should be patrolling the internet more to intercept these madmen before they strike .....
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Your claim doesn't stand up to the evidence, unless you are claiming UKIP is far right of course?