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Old 22 November 2015, 04:22 PM
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Just seen the advert in #20.

On individual level I find the advert heart warming and very inclusive. I don't find it offensive at all, may it be played in cinema or anywhere else. Personally, it pleases me to see the base religion shimmering here n' there in this British society. I understand why the organisations won't let it be aired, as per their policy. But I also think that they can have the opposite policy that allows every other religion to be making its show around their festivals. But if they do that, that could invite some problems on political level.

1. So, not offensive at all, on my personal and individual level.

2. I can see why organisations are against playing it to the masses, although this advert doesn't promote any divisive feeling whatsoever. It appeals people to pray, for God's sake, literally! What's wrong in that??? You don't have to pray to anyone, if yo don't want to! You could just sit back and chew on your pop corns ffs! Tbh I'd like to see more of this Christianity show in the UK, I'd like to see all the churches lit up and running etc., I'd like to see people getting married and funerals taking place in the churches genuinely in the name of God, not just for the false drama of it, but that's me back again to my individual level.

3. I can see why, in this political climate, the policy of the organisations may prove itself as a preventive measure to some irrational destruction and chaos.
Old 22 November 2015, 05:21 PM
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Tbh it wouldn't bother me

Like most people I find ads irritating anyway

It would simply be one of a long list
Old 23 November 2015, 12:47 AM
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Originally Posted by JTaylor
I'm struggling to see what the fuss is about
Old 23 November 2015, 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
Glad its banned I don't want religion pushed on me when I go to the cinema or at any time for that matter
Absolutely. I also don't want to listen to this shyte when i'm going to the cinema.

I was at the cinema at the weekend, and was subjected to some daft bint (with gaps in her front teeth) promoting makeup
Old 23 November 2015, 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I'm struggling to see what the fuss is about
Yes, me too

A manufactured controversy

I agree with Dawkins

Ultimately if you are stupid enough to be offended you deserve to be offended
Old 23 November 2015, 10:17 AM
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It is not a case of me not wanting to see it because it because it is religious, I just don't want to see any adverts at the cinema.

Personally I think cinema's should advertise like this, if they have adverts e.g.

Star Wars: adverts 19.25-1930: Film 1945.

That way people can still get in on time if they dont want to see ads.
Old 23 November 2015, 11:11 AM
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DCM were right to ban the advert. To allow it would open a big can of worms; religious equality is to either disallow all religions or allow all religions. Had it been allowed, then I'd imagine greater offense would be taken by Daily Fail types en masse had they had to show an Islamic prayer advert. Imagine having to sit through an advert espousing creationists, scientologists, satanists, pagan, etc etc values just before the screening of Noah or Exodus!
Old 23 November 2015, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
DCM were right to ban the advert. To allow it would open a big can of worms; religious equality is to either disallow all religions or allow all religions. Had it been allowed, then I'd imagine greater offense would be taken by Daily Fail types en masse had they had to show an Islamic prayer advert. Imagine having to sit through an advert espousing creationists, scientologists, satanists, pagan, etc etc values just before the screening of Noah or Exodus!
Instead Daily Fail types take offense en masse because the cinema are silencing Christians. Can't win
Old 23 November 2015, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by mrtheedge2u2

Personally I think cinema's should advertise like this, if they have adverts e.g.

Star Wars: adverts 19.25-1930: Film 1945.

That way people can still get in on time if they dont want to see ads.
Good idea, seems to me now that anything I go to see in the cinema has approx 20 minutes of stuff (ads and trailers) before the film starts

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Old 23 November 2015, 06:20 PM
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There is some irony somewhere here that at a time when a cinema makes a fair share of income is the time of the Christian holidays.

They are quite happy for capitalising on Christmas for their own financial gains (as well as their advertisers), but when it comes to acknowledging the religion that gives them their income at this time of year, oh no no no, we can't have that. Who are they to dictate what adverts we can and can't be force fed?


To be frank I don't care about the advert...I'd just switch off to it like I do with most adverts, but I do care about the over-capitalisation of Christmas for financial greed. And its partly that reason why I boycotted cinemas a long time ago - haven't been for years.

FWIW, we having a "bah-humbug Christmas" this year, close family aren't giving gifts, and only buying charity cards. I'd promote other people to do it if I had the time, maybe it would go viral - it'd be nice if it did, and maybe then we could actually celebrate Christmas properly instead of spending obscene amounts of money on materialistic crap.

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Old 23 November 2015, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
Glad its banned I don't want religion pushed on me when I go to the cinema or at any time for that matter
Yep, this also
Old 24 November 2015, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
There is some irony somewhere here that at a time when a cinema makes a fair share of income is the time of the Christian holidays.

They are quite happy for capitalising on Christmas for their own financial gains (as well as their advertisers), but when it comes to acknowledging the religion that gives them their income at this time of year, oh no no no, we can't have that. Who are they to dictate what adverts we can and can't be force fed?


To be frank I don't care about the advert...I'd just switch off to it like I do with most adverts, but I do care about the over-capitalisation of Christmas for financial greed. And its partly that reason why I boycotted cinemas a long time ago - haven't been for years.

FWIW, we having a "bah-humbug Christmas" this year, close family aren't giving gifts, and only buying charity cards. I'd promote other people to do it if I had the time, maybe it would go viral - it'd be nice if it did, and maybe then we could actually celebrate Christmas properly instead of spending obscene amounts of money on materialistic crap.
I view the cinema in the same way as eating out, bloody expensive and generally not that great, I'm a reasonable cook and even I can do better than some of the tosh that's been served to me over the years.

These days I generally wait until most movies are in the 3 quid section at the supermarket and watch it on my projector with my 850w sony surround sound in the comfort of my own home.

If I eat out it's either Chinese or the local carvery but that's only birthdays etc.

And don't get me started on christmas, biggest waste of money going, someone buys you some crap and you buy them some crap, I decided long ago it only exists to give the retail trade a big boost in profits.

Only thing I like about it is we get invited to my Mrs Aunts house every year and her roast dinners are spectacular, can't wait to get my teeth into her roast lamb, come 3pm christmas day I'm generally looking like a fatted calf lying on the sofa struggling to move.

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Old 25 November 2015, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
There is some irony somewhere here that at a time when a cinema makes a fair share of income is the time of the Christian holidays.

They are quite happy for capitalising on Christmas for their own financial gains (as well as their advertisers), but when it comes to acknowledging the religion that gives them their income at this time of year, oh no no no, we can't have that. Who are they to dictate what adverts we can and can't be force fed?

Religion gives them their money? That's quite a skewed viewpoint. The studios simply cannot release all the big films in a year at the same time, it doesn't make sense. The are no more making money out of religion than making money out of the summer, it just so happens they release them for spring, summer and 'holidays'.

But that notwithstanding, I did think this quote rather apt..

"The Church does not hesitate to ban things that it deems inappropriate from its own church halls - things like yoga. The cinema chains are simply exercising the same right."

What's good for the goose, and all that
Old 27 November 2015, 01:58 PM
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Because people could be offended, oh please f### off. People seem to be offended at the drop of a hat these days, what's next - strip the Christmas Carols out of repeats of Home Alone on TV?
Old 27 November 2015, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer

"The Church does not hesitate to ban things that it deems inappropriate from its own church halls - things like yoga. The cinema chains are simply exercising the same right."

What's good for the goose, and all that
AH, furry-muff
Old 28 November 2015, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by T J
'Lord' is always in capital letters, as it is in the bible. the LORD
Incorrect. In the Old Testament it depends if the translation is from the original Hebrew word 'YHWH', in which case it will be rendered LORD or if it's 'Adonai', in which case it will be Lord. In the New Testament (where God and Lord is translated from Greek) there's no such complication with missing vowels and as such Lord is always written with a capital L out of reverence, but is otherwise rendered in lower-case. The Lord's Prayer appears in the New Testament and as such it would be erroneous to fully capitalise the word Lord. Welcome aboard.
Old 28 November 2015, 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by T J
it should be LORD not LORD.
Taken from my NKJV:

Old Testament



New Testament

Old 28 November 2015, 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by T J
Sound a trumpet? Really?
Not literally.
Old 28 November 2015, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by T J
Right hand, what about left handed people?
What about them, T J?
Old 28 November 2015, 06:41 PM
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Who is T J, J T? I've checked this thread and see no sign of any T J Hughes exchanging any communication with you. Is it your other conscience in reverse order?
Old 28 November 2015, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Turbohot
Who is T J, J T? I've checked this thread and see no sign of any T J Hughes exchanging any communication with you. Is it your other conscience in reverse order?
I was feeling reflective.

T J, like our friend Scooby_Legend is about to be, was hit by the ban hammer.
Old 29 November 2015, 04:34 PM
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I don't know about banning, but a lot of people right now wouldn't want to see anything Islamic if they went to the cinema, so on the basis of 'equality' I can understand why a cinema chain might choose not to show such an advert.
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