So you think our monarchy is symbolic, and therefore benign, do you?
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Father was RAF throughout WW2, joined in 1939 at the outbreak, demobbed 1946. two uncles also RAF, one killed in 1943.
Grandfather and three great uncles in WW1. G/f and one uncle survived.
That do you?
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Myself? None, never been a member of the armed forces, worked for a living instead, (excluding wartime armed forces, or royals here)
Father was RAF throughout WW2, joined in 1939 at the outbreak, demobbed 1946. two uncles also RAF, one killed in 1943.
Grandfather and three great uncles in WW1. G/f and one uncle survived.
That do you?
Father was RAF throughout WW2, joined in 1939 at the outbreak, demobbed 1946. two uncles also RAF, one killed in 1943.
Grandfather and three great uncles in WW1. G/f and one uncle survived.
That do you?
The answer is no contribution by you at all then. Not a great platform from which to criticise royals that have been there and done it, in however limited a capacity.
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Apart from being completely incorrect in just about every way possible, this post just plunges new depths of idiocy.
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OK maybe I'm being a little over sensitive here due to my father being a Jamaican "black" man.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
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OK maybe I'm being a little over sensitive here due to my father being a Jamaican "black" man.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
As has been said many times though, if you choose to be offended, that's your prerogative.
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OK maybe I'm being a little over sensitive here due to my father being a Jamaican "black" man.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
But am I the only person that finds the term Miggers offensive and derogatory and somehow connected to the term ******, which I think is generally accepted as being offensive to everyone outside of the rap industry.
Just curious.
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Just in case you are the only person in the known universe (apart from all the Daily Mail readers) who didn't know, those that committed the atrocities in Paris were, with possibly one exception (if you believe that a passport can survive being at the centre of a bomb blast) all French or Belgian nationals.
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Those I HAVE criticised have been the royal fakey jakes, one day in the Army, next day the RAF, next day the Navy and mostly none of those, but at home, or clubbing.
Go on...tell me they REALLY defended me in ANY way?
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FFS Jeff do you *ever* read back what you type before you click the post button?
Just in case you are the only person in the known universe (apart from all the Daily Mail readers) who didn't know, those that committed the atrocities in Paris were, with possibly one exception (if you believe that a passport can survive being at the centre of a bomb blast) all French or Belgian nationals.
Just in case you are the only person in the known universe (apart from all the Daily Mail readers) who didn't know, those that committed the atrocities in Paris were, with possibly one exception (if you believe that a passport can survive being at the centre of a bomb blast) all French or Belgian nationals.
But hey, lets keep 'em coming.....
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You know full well the possible connotations of that term and yet you still persist with this notion that you're right and everybody else is the problem. When the reality is you're just as morally corrupt as you try and make Martin and the rest of the "great left apologists" out to be.
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You'll note that I have avoided critcising REAL armed forces personnel.
Those I HAVE criticised have been the royal fakey jakes, one day in the Army, next day the RAF, next day the Navy and mostly none of those, but at home, or clubbing.
Go on...tell me they REALLY defended me in ANY way?
Those I HAVE criticised have been the royal fakey jakes, one day in the Army, next day the RAF, next day the Navy and mostly none of those, but at home, or clubbing.
Go on...tell me they REALLY defended me in ANY way?
Harry has undertaken two operational tours of Afghanistan, as a Forward Air Controller in 2007/08 and as an Apache Pilot between September 2012 and January 2013.
The Duke of Edinburgh served in the Royal Navy from 1939 to 1952, seeing active service throughout the Second World War.
The rest were fortunate not to have seen conflict.
You, on the other hand, **** your pants at the prospect of having to use pink plaster. Enough said, I think.
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hahahahahahaha
Sanctimonious? Moi?
I think not. I theeeeenk...not!
Sorry if you dislike being wrong, but I'm afraid you are. The fact that I never joined up doesn't show ME up at all. I had a decent, well-respected job, which I did well enough for a long time.
The Royals, on the other hand, play at being in the forces, when anyone with a ha'porth of sense KNOWS they are playing. If even ONE of them went out and got a proper job.....but they don't. The Belgian Royals do, the Dutch Royals do, but ours persist in this scam that they are in the armed forces. Army one day, navy the next, RAF the next again...playing at it.
And please...don't accuse ME of crapping my pants, when our next but one monarch daren't go out to Afghanistan! Sorry...wasn't allowed to go
I've listed for you what my family did in two wars, when people joined up as a matter of duty. THREE uncles or great uncles lost their lives on actual active service. Remind me again how many royals did?
Sanctimonious? Moi?
I think not. I theeeeenk...not!
Sorry if you dislike being wrong, but I'm afraid you are. The fact that I never joined up doesn't show ME up at all. I had a decent, well-respected job, which I did well enough for a long time.
The Royals, on the other hand, play at being in the forces, when anyone with a ha'porth of sense KNOWS they are playing. If even ONE of them went out and got a proper job.....but they don't. The Belgian Royals do, the Dutch Royals do, but ours persist in this scam that they are in the armed forces. Army one day, navy the next, RAF the next again...playing at it.
And please...don't accuse ME of crapping my pants, when our next but one monarch daren't go out to Afghanistan! Sorry...wasn't allowed to go
I've listed for you what my family did in two wars, when people joined up as a matter of duty. THREE uncles or great uncles lost their lives on actual active service. Remind me again how many royals did?
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Whilst I salute the courage and sacrifice of your forbears, it is improper for you to denounce the service of others simply based on the fact that they didn't have to make the ultimate sacrifice. By doing so you also denounce all others who so served.
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Its not about being right or wrong here - you are stating (most) your opinion of what you believe is acceptable or not acceptable.
I'm far from a royalist - quite the opposite in fact, but I've got no issue with them swanning around most of the time when they are not carrying out ambassadorial duties. That, after all, is their real job. Whether you accept that to be worthwhile or not is, frankly, not something about which I could give a solitary f*ck.
Time to put up or shut up. What exactly was your job? Perhaps if you let us know we could then have an opinion of how worthwhile we view it as?
I'm also surprised that you seem bitter that no royal lost their life fighting for King/Queen and country in recent years. That's kind of the point. You know. To keep them alive.
Its not about being right or wrong here - you are stating (most) your opinion of what you believe is acceptable or not acceptable.
I'm far from a royalist - quite the opposite in fact, but I've got no issue with them swanning around most of the time when they are not carrying out ambassadorial duties. That, after all, is their real job. Whether you accept that to be worthwhile or not is, frankly, not something about which I could give a solitary f*ck.
Time to put up or shut up. What exactly was your job? Perhaps if you let us know we could then have an opinion of how worthwhile we view it as?
I'm also surprised that you seem bitter that no royal lost their life fighting for King/Queen and country in recent years. That's kind of the point. You know. To keep them alive.
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Sorry, but you both misunderstood.
I was not asking for any royals to lose their lives...personally, I would wish that on very few people.
My comment was based on the FACT that, Chooky apart, very few of the royals have actual done any REAL active service, just swanned about in the uniform, RAF one day, Army the next, Navy the next, whatever gives them the most fun.
Whereas MY relatives joined up without being conscripted and three made the ultimate sacrifice.
My job? What's that to do with the price of sugar?
Suffice to say it was quite skilled and not one a lot of people would want. And not that well paid, either, but I liked it.
I was not asking for any royals to lose their lives...personally, I would wish that on very few people.
My comment was based on the FACT that, Chooky apart, very few of the royals have actual done any REAL active service, just swanned about in the uniform, RAF one day, Army the next, Navy the next, whatever gives them the most fun.
Whereas MY relatives joined up without being conscripted and three made the ultimate sacrifice.
My job? What's that to do with the price of sugar?
Suffice to say it was quite skilled and not one a lot of people would want. And not that well paid, either, but I liked it.
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Sorry, but you both misunderstood.
I was not asking for any royals to lose their lives...personally, I would wish that on very few people.
My comment was based on the FACT that, Chooky apart, very few of the royals have actual done any REAL active service, just swanned about in the uniform, RAF one day, Army the next, Navy the next, whatever gives them the most fun.
Whereas MY relatives joined up without being conscripted and three made the ultimate sacrifice.
My job? What's that to do with the price of sugar?
Suffice to say it was quite skilled and not one a lot of people would want. And not that well paid, either, but I liked it.
I was not asking for any royals to lose their lives...personally, I would wish that on very few people.
My comment was based on the FACT that, Chooky apart, very few of the royals have actual done any REAL active service, just swanned about in the uniform, RAF one day, Army the next, Navy the next, whatever gives them the most fun.
Whereas MY relatives joined up without being conscripted and three made the ultimate sacrifice.
My job? What's that to do with the price of sugar?
Suffice to say it was quite skilled and not one a lot of people would want. And not that well paid, either, but I liked it.
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You'll note that I have avoided critcising REAL armed forces personnel.
Those I HAVE criticised have been the royal fakey jakes, one day in the Army, next day the RAF, next day the Navy and mostly none of those, but at home, or clubbing.
Go on...tell me they REALLY defended me in ANY way?
Those I HAVE criticised have been the royal fakey jakes, one day in the Army, next day the RAF, next day the Navy and mostly none of those, but at home, or clubbing.
Go on...tell me they REALLY defended me in ANY way?
Prince Andrew flew rescue missions in the Falklands.
Of course, you could say that anyone higher than Colonel is unlikely to see any direct action, do you have similar contempt for them?
I imagine the Queen and immediate Royal family work harder in one year than you do in ten, and their life is not their own.
Who exactly is the faker here?
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Lol, maybe I can help here, He was a teacher, you know those that can't do teach.
Not wanting to take the p1ss too much because my wife was a teacher, but she also lived an extremely outside of the box type of life before she became a teacher, which is partly how she ended up married to me.
Not wanting to take the p1ss too much because my wife was a teacher, but she also lived an extremely outside of the box type of life before she became a teacher, which is partly how she ended up married to me.
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Lol, maybe I can help here, He was a teacher, you know those that can't do teach.
Not wanting to take the p1ss too much because my wife was a teacher, but she also lived an extremely outside of the box type of life before she became a teacher, which is partly how she ended up married to me.
Not wanting to take the p1ss too much because my wife was a teacher, but she also lived an extremely outside of the box type of life before she became a teacher, which is partly how she ended up married to me.