Well eventually , when the country has become basket case of the world / or not immigration numbers will come down .

But people bought into the fact this would happen like , in 6 months time

And that it would improve their prosperity !

 

So, with all this active thought process of yours that often reads as a strong leaning towards 'remain', why didn't you vote, then?

I've read your post where you say that you didn't.

What's the point talking all that if you didn't even bother voting?

 

Couldn't decide , its an impossible decision to make imo

 

yes because people are to lazy nowadays,its easier to press a button on your tv remote and listen to sky news etc.
If people really wanted to find out about the EU,then you need to go back to its origins in 800 AD,Charlemagne the great,ST Peter Rome,
Otto the Great Germany.
Napolen.
Von Bismarck 2nd reich who dominated German and European affairs.
Hitler,Third Reich.
what Daniel predicted in the book of revelations.
the EU being a Revised roman empire.

But lets not turn this thread into a conspiracy Bible bashing thread.So i'll keep my thoughts to myself why i voted out.

 

There's a lot of this going around on the internet. It's nonsense.

 

I know. You said that it that post.

What I am saying is that all your active expression with your pro-remain posts becomes null and void if you couldn't decide to vote for Remain. Having an ability to decide (whichever way) shows more character strength that being confused but still pretending here that you are actually very pro-remain. If you prefer sitting on a wooden fence with your legs dangling, with a lollipop in your mouth, pouring more and more petrol on the fire, then you might yourself become a sh7t-stirrer back bencher politician.

Perhaps your pro-remain stance only concerns immigration? That limitation, in itself, is like the OUT's blinkered stance to everything else but immigration.

Anyway, it's done. I'm just saying that that one can't say one thing and do another or do absolutely nothing. Actually, they can do that, as you did. But it makes them look like a conflict loving sh7t stirrer and nothing else, that's all.

Next time, show some solid fidelity. Do as you say, and say as you do.

I still remain your friend, though. I think you're a good guy; deep down inside.

 

It all ties in with when the EU its foundations began,Germany longing control over Europe,from Hitler and third Reich all the way back to its origins in 800 AD.you have to sift through these things.Not everything you read or hear is truth.


But all people bang on about is xenophobia and racism....

 

My pastor and I are considering writing a paper on the Daniel prophecies and how they relate to Brexit. If we go ahead I'll post it up.

 

From Rev. O.J.Batstone:

 

The EU is corrupt,people have been taken in by the establishment.
The UK breaking away will in time make this country better,Other countries will eventually break away,It will put the EU right again which was just about trade.
Instead it turned into a power house of control.

 

Yes, let's have a look how political conspiracy works. According to The Telegraph, anyway.

Gove is being referred as a suicide bomber (not literally but metaphorically, I must stress) and a machiavellian psychopath for catapulting Boris out of the grand scheme of things:

http://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews...Q&ocid=UE07DHP

I don't think Gove has any chance, anyway. I also think that Boris camp should not get that upset with the psychopath because he actually did Boris a favour. Boris would have had 'lost' word formally stamped on his dream, which he has escaped. The psychopath looks forward to wear it, now.

 

I don't feel controlled.

 

Sure,here have cheaper phone calls abroad.keeps you happy.
It leaves us to get on with the master plan of building a United States of Europe,revised Roman Empire.
How many protesting against coming out of the EU even knew that its origins dated as far back as 800 AD. Most think this EU is a cool new thing that's only been around for the last 40 or so years.

 

I believe very little what the church has to say nowadays because that had also become corrupt..

 

Do some agree that there are powers that try to control us the minions . With there lies .

If you believe that .do you think us voting out necessarily went against there bigger picture

Why is it politicians lie . To what end . Is at just for there individual benefit or is it part of something bigger .

And boris johnston for prime minister wtf is that about . I addmitedly dont follow politics on a deep level . But isnt he just a joke . Would we, the people sit back and allow a clown to rule the country.

And also . Donald trump does so well because he comes accross as somebody outside of the inner circle of lieing politicians.

But then again . Maybe that is just part of a bigger picture .

As you can probably tell i have very little faith in those that rule us . Or democracy . Also religion .

I also think that the large majority of people voted out because they feel it gives us / our country more power to control our destiny and that also matches what is happening in the usa with trump . He is talking about the ordinary person in america having the power and control of there country as apposed to the lieing politicians.

But maybe this is all part of the bigger picture for what the powers that be have . By that i mean big business . Oil tycoons bankers pharama etc.

Anyway ill let you get back to what you were doing and say no more about conspiracy type things

 

He's an independent baptist minister and my friend. He's recently moved his young family from a comfortable house in Cardiff (where his lovely wife has a job in the Welsh assembly) to a deprived valley some forty minutes away. He's done this to be amongst his flock. He's a Godly man, he's categorically not corrupt and I object to the implication that he is, brother.

 

Nah, Boris knows a good thing when he sees it and Gove was his ticket out of that little mess he Brexited in too.

 

That's why I said that Boris and Co. should be pleased instead. He has escaped further self-destruction, which may allow him some time to re-build his rep. That's if the public in general have short memory.

 

I read emough of that to get the jist of what is supposodly happening .but ffs boris as pm lol . I imagune he talked to his friend gove and they both laughed at the prospect of him leading the country then came up with this solution.

It amazes me how so many people take this **** at face value . Its on a par with my feelings about eastenders

 

Thing is, at least you can see the ones that rule us. But you can't see the God. That could be the reason why people end up believing the politicians.

I'd rather believe in God. With that, I'm the only one to blame; for telling fibs to myself. Speechless, soundless, boundless God will just listen.

 

Believe me, Gove saved Boris's @rse! He came in and said- "Stand back, Boris! I'll handle the shame!". So he put himself forward as the punchbag. TM will sail past him in flying colours, no pressure.

Gove and Boris remain good mates, actually.

 

Thats exactly what i ment. It was probably the plan from the start

 

I also think that even Camo is involved, you know. He acted all innocent but I think he wanted OUT of the EU or his campaign would have had a lot more conviction. All that, that is coming out now, should have been highlighted, then. Now he has washed his hands off by resigning, and wants someone else to do the dirty deed. You can't get past any of them, really.

Other perspective is, that CAMO has let this happen to prove that realistically there's no way OUT. This way, he makes that Farage bite the dust prim and proper and make Corbyn look like some desperate fool. Brexit has f@@ked Labour over. This way, he has done his party a favour. PM's job is a difficult job, anyway. I don't blame him for resigning after 6 tedious years. Nothing hugely eventful happened apart from that Scotland vote during his service. The guy is quite switched on, doesn't like sitting around, so he had some excitement with mincing about on this Brexit vote. Now he leaves on with the 'high' off it. His mate TM can do the job after him. Get back to your running and cycling, Camo.

You know what I mean? Conspiracies all over the place!

 

This is I don’t get – the BBC has a legal duty to be impartial, like anything it is not perfect but gets about an equal number of complaints from both left and right over bias, so must be doing something right

Yet what we have just seen is an insight into other parts of the media – the infamous Vine email to her husband Gove

The agenda driven partisanship of certain sections of the print media laid bare (Mail and Times/Murdoch)

The Reason why Dacre, Lord Rothermere & Murdoch were reported to be livid to be named in the email, was not that is was untrue, no it was/is demonstrably true, but they would rather it not be highlighted so dramatically

But in a way I suspect their concern is not warranted – after all when you have a UKIP MEP tweeting how outrageous the bias of the BBC was in a referendum debate – all good but the debate was on ITV

You do wonder exactly where people get their information from and how deep the cognitive bias

 

The UK has more CCTV cameras than any country in the world, let alone the EU

yet some presumably blame the EU

 

I was in until the last week or so . And maybe my skepticism was justified when I just happened visit my accountant about a week ago and learnt he voted out on the grounds of , you guessed it lack of eu accountability , along with corruption of funds among member states . These are the ones that exist today - what about ones joining ...

I also don't really know we are truly out forever anyway , possibly we are better bartering from without and not having restrictions trading with everywhere else .

Stay in , the whole idea is we all earn the same - in return for acting as a trade bloc . Maybe that's wonderful idea

who knows , As said its impossible question

I suspect the expansion of Europe is a destabilising factor though

 

Brexit is a blip in the broader scope of the prophecies. Ask your pastor about prophecies relating to the break-up of the Middle East, the opposing sides Russia and Saudi, the involvement of Israel and much more besides. It's all very real and very depressing. David

 

What a load of poop.

You really believe this?

Please draw me a straight line between the Roman Empire and the EU

 

Heard a news report that there could be a legal challenge to Prime Minister going ahead with Chapter 50 and approval must go through Parliament first.


That would set Downing Street's cat among the whatsits


The fat lady may still be singing.


David

 

Hasn't it always had to go through parliament. ...?