I agree with Neil re his comment regarding

"to say being in the EU is of no benefit is going completely the other way"

and your stated position above is now a rational one

however, it would be interesting to hear what advantages being in the EU gives the UK, in your opinion

this is not a trick question btw (unless you actually don't believe your comment above)

 

"It's the immigrants what done it "

 

And that statement show just how little you understand about the EU and how it works.


Most in voters admit there is room for improvement (which is why Cameron has negotiated for reform, funnily enough), but the benefits are huge.


Your statement show just how little you have actually looked, and probably what really drives you.

 

The fact of the matter is it's a lot harder to get into Australia than it is the UK. That's a fact not a sound bite. Stop lying about **** you know absolutely nothing about.

Oh and your daft claim that today's taxpayers are paying for today's pensioners is another fallacy. Tomorrow's taxpayers are paying for today's pensioners. Hint... £1.6 trillion borrowed!!!

Looking forward to seeing which way you all vote! I'll have a drink to your once great nation on the day by way of old time's sake

 

It can't be that hard




Whilst you're gracing us with your presence...


I assumed you would be apologising to everyone you called an idiot (and other choice words), when they said that there would be a referendum after the election. You of course knew better!

 

It isn't that hard, but it is harder than getting into the UK. That is the point being made which, as you always do, you choose to ignore and deflect.

Just stop peddling your lies. You say you're not especially pro EU and then make posts calling people thick for wanting to leave. You're a hypocrite and frankly not a very nice person!

Oh and save the smart alec reply as I'm off, have better things to do than engage your sort these days thankfully!

 

what was it you were saying about 'deflection'?

 

Martin,

I have learned a lot of things in the last 6 months. One is not to put up with people you think are utter ****s.

I think you're a **** ergo I'm not getting back into a 'debate' with you

Hope that is clear enough for you! You can post and think what you like about that... I genuinely don't give a ****!

Now you can get back to your little crusade of half truths!

Adios!

 

More desperation from the ECB (European Central Bank) today - interest rate cut AND expansion of QE to €80billion per month! Think the consequential bump in gold prices tells you everything you need to know about that move!

The euro is just utterly screwed, I can't believe anyone would still want to be part of this mess!

 

It seems you've actually learnt very little by your recent foray back on here.


Anyway go away then, it would appear to work for you, and it certainly works for me

 

Did you pay your way into Aus F1 ??

My gold shares are falling this week , what does that tell you?

 

Tells me you haven't looked at them today? Randgold up 70p since about 14:00 when Mario Draghi fires his last piece of ammunition.

 

You, sir, are a bigot.

 

I hope some Australian fills F1 fanny right in, although they'll probably draw the line at whacking gobby girls.

 

Yes that's obvious from the post you are responding to - seriously?

 

Seriously. he will not allow me to have my views and insults me...bigotry. How the HELL does he presume to know what drives me?

You, on the other hand, are just an out-of-work actor from the fast show.

 

SO has 18 pages of arguing about imigration mean we can now move on to other issues around it?

 

Free movement

I am going skiing in two weeks, - brilliant just turn up in a car (in this case a Ferrari 612), no visa, I can use the Euros I have left over from a summer holiday in Greece

I can drive through 6 countries seamlessly

What's not to like!!!!

And the snow is epic!!!!!!!!

 

On the Alcazar scale of 'bigotry', where does calling people 'Miggers' sit?

 

The much vaunted (by the outers) Norway and Switzerland model, is a curious one because not only do they have to pay into the EU coffers, but they also have to allow freedom of movement. The 2 things that seem to most irk some many people.


I wonder what 'price' we would have to pay to cut a trade deal with the EU?

 

The problem is that the consequences of leaving the EU are just unknown. My sense is that whether this would be good, bad or neutral will be decided at the margins. Whether company A is slightly more or less likely to trade with company B. Whether a % of inward investment ends up somewhere else. What would be the terms of a trade deal between the EU and UK etc. The economic argument is just so hard to really have any kind of certainty about. Therefore it falls back into a discussion on what people don't like.

 

Lol, so true

 

Most people are on internet forums, get over it. You certainly are. Most people on here are!

 

It matters not whether consequences are fully known or not. It wont be the end of Britain. A period of adjustment/re alignment whatever phrase you want to put in place. We will have government accountable to us and no other body dictating to them,

If people don't take risks then we would of never crawled out of our caves, or sailed around the world when the doom sayers said we they would fall off the edge of the earth. Look what wonderous discoveries they made. Life is a risk, take a little one. Hell if you dont like the result you could always try and move to Australia

 

Same as calling someone a plonker? Or a wazock?

Sticks and stones, Martin. If you are going to get all het up about a made up name, there's little hope for you, you're worse than most lasses.

Ooooh, oooh, he used a rude word......listen to yourself.

Oh, and look up bigotry.

 

Another wannabe lass.


Ooooh, oooh, I don't like that WORD!! It's going to HURT me....LOL

Get a life.

 

if you new what a bigot was, it'd help.

It has nowt to do with racism.

 

Ever tried applying that logic in real life?

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot_(disambiguation)

A bigot is a prejudiced person who is unfairly and irrationally intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, or profession.


sounds a bit like you - if the cap fits

 

Wikipedia FFS?????

Try Cambridge dictionary, mastermind:

a ​person who has ​strong, ​unreasonable ​beliefs and who does not like other ​people who have different ​beliefs or a different way of ​life:

Sounds more like you lot, LOL.

I don't dislike, or insult you lot, but you can't stop yourselves from trying to do the same to me.

I have nothing against any of you, after all, you cannot help being wrong...and bigotted too.

Martin, on the other hand...well I have a feeling that if I said white, martin would say "No, no, no it isn't, it's black!".