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20 May 2016 | 10:18 AM
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you have!!
I linked to an article that discusses the pseudoscientific concept of "Racialism"
Racialism is a concept that tries to put he veneer of science behind your beliefs
much in the same way that Intelligent Design tries to put a veneer of science behind Creationism
because if people say the are racist or creationist they are rightly derided and laughed at
20 May 2016 | 10:43 AM
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yes, I am afraid you are going to have to do better than that - I have not used the word "racist"
you have!!
I linked to an article that discusses the pseudoscientific concept of "Racialism"
Racialism is a concept that tries to put he veneer of science behind your beliefs
much in the same way that Intelligent Design tries to put a veneer of science behind Creationism
because if people say the are racist or creationist they are rightly derided and laughed at
you have!!
I linked to an article that discusses the pseudoscientific concept of "Racialism"
Racialism is a concept that tries to put he veneer of science behind your beliefs
much in the same way that Intelligent Design tries to put a veneer of science behind Creationism
because if people say the are racist or creationist they are rightly derided and laughed at
20 May 2016 | 02:15 PM
#903
Question time last night was painful as ever! 
Yvette Cooper and Tim Farron being the worst offenders in serving up platitude after platitude. Neither made a comment of substance at any point - just the same spin we've heard for years on QT about how immigration is a wonderful thing and really shouldn't be questioned. I agreed with much of what Nuttall said but he's not the best of orators and gets a bit too shouty to be convincing.
Yvette Cooper and Tim Farron being the worst offenders in serving up platitude after platitude. Neither made a comment of substance at any point - just the same spin we've heard for years on QT about how immigration is a wonderful thing and really shouldn't be questioned. I agreed with much of what Nuttall said but he's not the best of orators and gets a bit too shouty to be convincing.
She's that most dangerous thing: a loud-mouthed female socialist. Intolerant of others unless they are minorities
21 May 2016 | 12:53 AM
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21 May 2016 | 12:56 AM
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Much of Middle Eastern culture and values are totally at odds with those held dear in western liberal democracies. You inferring that I am a racist doesn't change that - such accusations are a desperate crutch to avoid actual debate.
I was under the impression it was the ancient Greeks who realised the world was round but even if I am wrong in this I think it doubtful that one can draw intellectual parallels between ancient and modern ME populations. 1400 years of Islam certainly haven't helped their advancement.
Question time last night was painful as ever! Yvette Cooper and Tim Farron being the worst offenders in serving up platitude after platitude. Neither made a comment of substance at any point - just the same spin we've heard for years on QT about how immigration is a wonderful thing and really shouldn't be questioned. I agreed with much of what Nuttall said but he's not the best of orators and gets a bit too shouty to be convincing.
I was under the impression it was the ancient Greeks who realised the world was round but even if I am wrong in this I think it doubtful that one can draw intellectual parallels between ancient and modern ME populations. 1400 years of Islam certainly haven't helped their advancement.
Question time last night was painful as ever!
Yvette Cooper and Tim Farron being the worst offenders in serving up platitude after platitude. Neither made a comment of substance at any point - just the same spin we've heard for years on QT about how immigration is a wonderful thing and really shouldn't be questioned. I agreed with much of what Nuttall said but he's not the best of orators and gets a bit too shouty to be convincing.Personally I think it's about time the British people told the politicians to STFU and let people who aren't swayed by personal ambition and/or ideology be heard.
21 May 2016 | 12:58 AM
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21 May 2016 | 08:53 AM
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Mr Osborne tells us this morning that if we leave the EU, house prices could fall, and therefore we ought to vote to remain.
Given that most ordinary people who don't already own a house will almost certainly never be able to afford one, I think his suggestion is yet another very good reason to vote to leave.
And if you're still in any doubt about voting to leave, just to refer back to one of my earlier posts, all you need to remember is Tony Blair wants us to remain, therefore there's no need to deliberate any longer. Out it is.
My goodness I'll be glad when it's June 24th.
Given that most ordinary people who don't already own a house will almost certainly never be able to afford one, I think his suggestion is yet another very good reason to vote to leave.
And if you're still in any doubt about voting to leave, just to refer back to one of my earlier posts, all you need to remember is Tony Blair wants us to remain, therefore there's no need to deliberate any longer. Out it is.
My goodness I'll be glad when it's June 24th.
21 May 2016 | 08:58 AM
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Because unemployment in the areas outside London and the SE is STILL rising month on month? The admitted figure is 1.6+ million. The real figure much higher.
Because we have betrayed a generation by allowing immigrants to take the "starter" jobs they would have had?
Because we have then lied and lied again, saying that "today's youth are feckless, lazy and don't want to work"?
Because out of 800,000+ jobs created last year, more than 85% went to immigrant workers?
That's why.
But if you have a good job and it's not affecting anyone near to you...well, IAJFEE.
Because we have betrayed a generation by allowing immigrants to take the "starter" jobs they would have had?
Because we have then lied and lied again, saying that "today's youth are feckless, lazy and don't want to work"?
Because out of 800,000+ jobs created last year, more than 85% went to immigrant workers?
That's why.
But if you have a good job and it's not affecting anyone near to you...well, IAJFEE.
21 May 2016 | 08:59 AM
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Mr Osborne tells us this morning that if we leave the EU, house prices could fall, and therefore we ought to vote to remain.
Given that most ordinary people who don't already own a house will almost certainly never be able to afford one, I think his suggestion is yet another very good reason to vote to leave.
And if you're still in any doubt about voting to leave, just to refer back to one of my earlier posts, all you need to remember is Tony Blair wants us to remain, therefore there's no need to deliberate any longer. Out it is.
My goodness I'll be glad when it's June 24th.
Given that most ordinary people who don't already own a house will almost certainly never be able to afford one, I think his suggestion is yet another very good reason to vote to leave.
And if you're still in any doubt about voting to leave, just to refer back to one of my earlier posts, all you need to remember is Tony Blair wants us to remain, therefore there's no need to deliberate any longer. Out it is.
My goodness I'll be glad when it's June 24th.
21 May 2016 | 11:25 AM
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Looking at the posts , there only 2 or 3 who are for staying in the EU. The rest of us are for Leaving the EU. 
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
21 May 2016 | 11:31 AM
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David Cameron refuses to release letters and emails, where he colluded with big business to rig the propaganda before he had negotiated with the EU.
He has been well and truly found out. Nothing that comes from his mouth will be believed
He has backed away from any direct debate with any Vote Leave campaigner!
He is petrified he will lose a debate
He has been well and truly found out. Nothing that comes from his mouth will be believed
He has backed away from any direct debate with any Vote Leave campaigner!
He is petrified he will lose a debate
21 May 2016 | 12:15 PM
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Looking at the posts , there only 2 or 3 who are for staying in the EU. The rest of us are for Leaving the EU.
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
We'll find out on the 23rd!
21 May 2016 | 12:29 PM
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These have ten of thousands of votes each I have not seen a poll under 65% that's in favour of leave.
I am a little dubious of the 1000 count phone polls. They are so far out of step with these online polls.
Have you not spoken to your friends and family, I have, in my circle, 7 out of 10 are for leaving the EU
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21 May 2016 | 12:33 PM
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Looking at the posts , there only 2 or 3 who are for staying in the EU. The rest of us are for Leaving the EU.
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
This is my experience with speaking with people, only small percentage want to stay.
My neighbour who knows a few farmers, has said even they want to leave. That is saying something when they get a better deal than most in the UK.
People have made up their mind now, cant wait for the day to vote OUT
Will people still have the courage to put their money when their mouth is and see it through on voting day.listening to the radio all this week and can't wait for the vote to be over with.
Seriously had enough of the remain side trying to bully people into fear of leaving,and now using celebrities etc to sway the vote in their favour.Really not interested in what celebs say or think etc,when was the last time you seen Keria Knightley walking along a city high street in the UK.They are doing everything they can to put fear into people,its going to be a disaster if Britain leave the EU,we will be in a dark place.
Well the Britain i remember and even before the EU didn't live in fear of anything.
21 May 2016 | 12:41 PM
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Will people still have the courage to put their money when their mouth is and see it through on voting day.listening to the radio all this week and can't wait for the vote to be over with.
Seriously had enough of the remain side trying to bully people into fear of leaving,and now using celebrities etc to sway the vote in their favour.Really not interested in what celebs say or think etc,when was the last time you seen Keria Knightley walking along a city high street in the UK.They are doing everything they can to put fear into people,its going to be a disaster if Britain leave the EU,we will be in a dark place.
Well the Britain i remember and even before the EU didn't live in fear of anything.
Seriously had enough of the remain side trying to bully people into fear of leaving,and now using celebrities etc to sway the vote in their favour.Really not interested in what celebs say or think etc,when was the last time you seen Keria Knightley walking along a city high street in the UK.They are doing everything they can to put fear into people,its going to be a disaster if Britain leave the EU,we will be in a dark place.
Well the Britain i remember and even before the EU didn't live in fear of anything.
People are worried about the already stretched resources from an uncontrolled migration into the UK and its only going to get worse.
Nobody can actually believe the politicians about migration and the economy when they said only a few thousand would come to the UK when actually millions did! The economy will be fine after a little shock and that will be short period.
If the EU collapses due to the UK leaving ,then it wasn't very strong in the first place. Europe will return to their currencies and we will continue to trade as before
21 May 2016 | 12:53 PM
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21 May 2016 | 01:00 PM
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21 May 2016 | 01:51 PM
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I've got the Electoral Commission booklet here. Both the remain and leave camps had a page in this booklet to get their point(s) across. So unlike the Government booklet (which was somewhat unfair but equally expected) this booklet is impartial.
The 'Leave' campaign devoted their whole page to wittering on about immigration and protecting our borders.
This booklet, I believe, was a categoric win for the 'Remain' camp, as the 'leaves' were effectively preaching to the choir.
I've got the Electoral Commission booklet here. Both the remain and leave camps had a page in this booklet to get their point(s) across. So unlike the Government booklet (which was somewhat unfair but equally expected) this booklet is impartial.
The 'Leave' campaign devoted their whole page to wittering on about immigration and protecting our borders.
This booklet, I believe, was a categoric win for the 'Remain' camp, as the 'leaves' were effectively preaching to the choir.
21 May 2016 | 01:57 PM
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On the ground, this is what I am hearing, people are pissed off with the whole fear, doom and gloom predictions from the stay campaign.
People are worried about the already stretched resources from an uncontrolled migration into the UK and its only going to get worse.
Nobody can actually believe the politicians about migration and the economy when they said only a few thousand would come to the UK when actually millions did! The economy will be fine after a little shock and that will be short period.
If the EU collapses due to the UK leaving ,then it wasn't very strong in the first place. Europe will return to their currencies and we will continue to trade as before
People are worried about the already stretched resources from an uncontrolled migration into the UK and its only going to get worse.
Nobody can actually believe the politicians about migration and the economy when they said only a few thousand would come to the UK when actually millions did! The economy will be fine after a little shock and that will be short period.
If the EU collapses due to the UK leaving ,then it wasn't very strong in the first place. Europe will return to their currencies and we will continue to trade as before
Its only common sense if you keep filling a country the size of Britain is not sustainable,and this is what's beginning to show more and more.
Britain was a great country and it survived/successful way before the EU,it had the courage,brave as a lion,king of the jungle.Now this country has been shot down and wounded by the weak and corrupt.
And people are being deceived and falling for the lies.
21 May 2016 | 02:04 PM
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I've got the Electoral Commission booklet here. Both the remain and leave camps had a page in this booklet to get their point(s) across. So unlike the Government booklet (which was somewhat unfair but equally expected) this booklet is impartial.
The 'Leave' campaign devoted their whole page to wittering on about immigration4 and protecting our borders.
This booklet, I believe, was a categoric win for the 'Remain' camp, as the 'leaves' were effectively preaching to the choir.
I've got the Electoral Commission booklet here. Both the remain and leave camps had a page in this booklet to get their point(s) across. So unlike the Government booklet (which was somewhat unfair but equally expected) this booklet is impartial.
The 'Leave' campaign devoted their whole page to wittering on about immigration4 and protecting our borders.
This booklet, I believe, was a categoric win for the 'Remain' camp, as the 'leaves' were effectively preaching to the choir.
21 May 2016 | 02:04 PM
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Its only common sense if you keep filling a country the size of Britain is not sustainable,and this is what's beginning to show more and more.
Britain was a great country and it survived/successful way before the EU,it had the courage,brave as a lion,king of the jungle.Now this country has been shot down and wounded by the weak and corrupt.
And people are being deceived and falling for the lies.
Britain was a great country and it survived/successful way before the EU,it had the courage,brave as a lion,king of the jungle.Now this country has been shot down and wounded by the weak and corrupt.
And people are being deceived and falling for the lies.
21 May 2016 | 02:07 PM
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Have you not seen the polls from the Telegraph(400,000 votes) Guardian, mirror, express, independent. ?
These have ten of thousands of votes each I have not seen a poll under 65% that's in favour of leave.
I am a little dubious of the 1000 count phone polls. They are so far out of step with these online polls.
Have you not spoken to your friends and family, I have, in my circle, 7 out of 10 are for leaving the EU
These have ten of thousands of votes each I have not seen a poll under 65% that's in favour of leave.
I am a little dubious of the 1000 count phone polls. They are so far out of step with these online polls.
Have you not spoken to your friends and family, I have, in my circle, 7 out of 10 are for leaving the EU
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
They are aggregate polls, not single ones.
21 May 2016 | 02:45 PM
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http://whatukthinks.org/eu/opinion-polls/poll-of-polls/
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
They are aggregate polls, not single ones.
https://ig.ft.com/sites/brexit-polling/
They are aggregate polls, not single ones.
This is what I cant fathom, you have online polls which have many hundreds of thousands of votes indicating leave has a massive margin and yet there are polls with only 1000 voters showing a much closer opinion with stay in the lead