We could just vote to leave, and see what happens. In a few years time, if it doesn't work out, we could always rejoin. Its not as if they won't want us back.

Despite all the scaremongering, nobody can say for sure how things will be till we actually do it.

 

You were clearly born in the wrong era....

 

...

 

it is undoubtedly true Labour has become too SE metropolitan focused

a process that has been going on for 50 years, and mirrors the decline in economic fortunes of the North during that time

unsurprisingly politicians gravitate towards where the power is!!

it seems the decline has been a combination of politicians abdication of power to "the market" in particular and globalisation in general.

(an abdication by all parties - but the free market mantra comes solely from the right, the Chicago School of supply side economics, sadly uncritically adopted by Labour)

no doubt the Labour voters see a vote out as taking back "control" - but nothing I have heard from the Brexiters leads me to imagine that the mantra of letting "markets" decide (in virtually all spheres of UK life) will be reversed and the politicians will take back "control" and start providing leadership and vision


the EU is simply a convenient and obvious punch bag

 

Just imagine Britain was not or never had been in the EU would you want to join the EU ?

 

People keep saying this but it's a completely different argument.

 

Well its kind of irrelevant

 

Ooo er - 19 points....

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politi...s-flock-Brexit

 

More good news for those who value common sense

Maybe even some deluded liberals are waking up and smelling the coffee and intending to vote out!

 

What's the good news, Pete? Is it from Warren? If so you'll have to quote it for me because I'm pretending to block him.

 

It certainly looks like a Brexit is on the cards

I said on this thread (a few weeks back) that a good friend thought it would go this way - I.e out

I must say I was surprised to hear him say that (as I said in my posts)

I assumed it would a win for in tbh

But the last few weeks it been obvious the tide has turned

The only bright side is wondering what Alcazar will winge about

(Answers on a post card)

 

Certainly does

Can't wait to see the look on Junckers face - the incompetant deluded fool will probably just completely deny the UK has voted out and carry on as usual though!

Next country to escape from the clutches of the failed socialist project? Austria? Greece?

 

Yeah, Greece should never have been allowed in

And prob not to much of a shock if it left

But the UK will "smart"

The nightmare scenario is if the whole EU falls apart

And we have a return to the politics of the 1920's and 1930's

 

Erm..... perhaps about having to get a visa for visiting his villa in France?

 

Sorry Scunnered, just seen this

No, out means out, in means in (at least for the next two generations or so)

This is a Ronseal vote - please don't vote on the basis that this does not mean what it says on the tin

In or out (we already have membership terms no one else does)

 

I'd guess that it would be the Netherlands who go for referendum, Catalonia going for independence from Spain, Italy and Greece to leave the Euro.

 

Denmark

 

 

Bbc1 now; Yet again the bollocks are being spouted. Now it's the inners with the mouthy woman on the right saying Birmingaham will lose 44000jobs if we leave.

Where did she get these "facts"?

 

The irony is the EU project is the reason for the whole continent falling apart. The project has been an unmitigated disaster. It's being run by staggeringly incompetent and out-of-touch bureaucrats, and the result is economic disaster and rapidly growing discontent by citizens all over Europe. Just look the relentless rise of nationalist parties all over.

Even if they somehow manage to fiddle the UK voting 'in' the EU project will end in disaster. We're only a year or two away from the next economic downturn globally, and Europe's going to absolutely explode when this hits.

 

Scotland?

 

This article pretty much sums up my current thoughts...


http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...leave-campaign

 

Read the comments and it is not what the people think, that is far more important

 

You mean 'it's not what the people who wrote on the comments section think'

 

Hahahahahahahahahaha, my "villa in France" is a little 300 year old farmhouse which I'm busy doing up, while supporting the French rural economy. Bloody won't stop raining now, though

I see the Swedish foreign minister thinks the EU will fall apart with, or without Brexit. The rural french have about had enough, Greece will default on their payment and jump ship if we go, and I believe Spain won't be far behind.

As usual, the socialists have ruined what was a decent idea.

 

On the hoof comments literally

 

http://www.southwestbusiness.co.uk/n...o-stay-in-uk-/

nice lot them ukip donaters

 

Do you trust politicians to do what they say they're going to do? Have a read of this!

Project fear is a fitting name, you should be ****ing terrified!

 

I liked this one

"Michael Gove, a Chicago School fanatic who regards anything preventing 18th century levels of inequality as 'red tape'. "

and good article

but it maybe too late

 

I disagree ; d'Ancona's bias with Cameron is quite well documented; I recall a few years ago The Spectator's Douglas Murray highlighted d'Ancona bias during the General elections. This article is no different and just continue his usual London-centric elitist bile albeit a little watered down where in the past he's been quicker than a gunslinger drawing a Smith and Wesson when it comes to drawing out the racist card.

And if you want me to counter his article. Then just copy and past anything recent from Douglas Murray who sits on the other side of the fence.