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Old 24 June 2016 | 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Just got sent this.


https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/131215


People need to accept the result
There is such a disconnect with the rest of the UK, that is London, home counties
Old 24 June 2016 | 10:50 AM
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There is such a disconnect with the rest of the UK, that is London, home counties

The home counties voted pretty solidly for Leave
Old 24 June 2016 | 10:53 AM
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a quick glance at the petition map looks like London and surrounding counties want a re run
Old 24 June 2016 | 10:55 AM
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Happy days. Every single English borough voted out (London excepted)
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:02 AM
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Happy days. Every single English borough voted out (London excepted)
That tells you all you need to know.

Hopefully, now, future govts won't 'neglect' the rest of the country 'in favour' of just London.

And pigs might fly.
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:04 AM
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as a white british male i cant help but feel like this vote was white vs non-white/foreign
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:05 AM
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France just overtook the UK to become the 5th biggest economy in the world. That's annoying
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by An0n0m0us
It was due to his tone I finally stated my position because I felt he was someone who was happy to debate different points without emotion and aggression
I appreciate that
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
France just overtook the UK to become the 5th biggest economy in the world. That's annoying
Not for long though, we've got the chance to get onato a stable and sustainable footing, they've still got to get out the EU first!

The markets have recovered much quicker than expected. I'd loaded up on Randgold Resources in anticipation of this result, and had hoped to get some shares in UK manufacturing companies like Rolls Royce on the cheap, but I think I've left if too late, they're up already!
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:15 AM
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The EU has been an itch that we couldn't help but scratch, pick at the edges of the scab, well now that itch has been well and truly scratch and it's starting to bleed. Is there a plaster in sight and how will it heal? Sadly, today has been a victory for populist politics....
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Not for long though, we've got the chance to get onato a stable and sustainable footing, they've still got to get out the EU first!

The markets have recovered much quicker than expected. I'd loaded up on Randgold Resources in anticipation of this result, and had hoped to get some shares in UK manufacturing companies like Rolls Royce on the cheap, but I think I've left if too late, they're up already!
BAE are up already which is good for me I guess

edit: maybe not! :/

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Old 24 June 2016 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well that was a long night!


Things turned out pretty much exactly as I thought they would.


Anyway took the dog out for a walk on a beautiful morning, it gave me a chance to clear my weary head.


We have a brave new world, some of it looks exciting, some looks quite scary.


We need to ensure that we make the very best of our new circumstances and take advantage of the opportunities that may come our way. There are bound to be some fairly frantic market movements, and some short term financial challenges. We need proper leadership now to ensure that the longer-term prospects are positive.


It clear to me that non of the main party leaders have the confidence of the electorate, Cameron is obviously going, but Corbyn cannot remain either, he simply is incapable of offering effective opposition.


Lots of people on my side of this issue, are true patriots, we just have a different perspective on our place in the world.


What's important now is that we all try to pull in the same direction, the world has changed and that is now everyone's responsibility, not just the half the country that voted Leave.


Onwards Britain
Good post Martin.
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
I hope that one of the consequences of this tumult is that EU leaders now realise that they are on the wrong track. They must reform, the reformers need to have their day.


We still need a strong EU, they are our neighbours, we need them to be successful.
French politician on TV here this morning saying exactly that: a wake up call for those running the EU, and some of the leaders...he mentioned Merkel.

Another one said it was all Germany and Merkel's fault for letting in too many supposed refugees that turned out to be economic migrants, and for being intractable with us.

The French really don't like that woman, LOL
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:32 AM
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Boris just tweeted that we should not turn our back on Europe

Meanwhile the EU asking us to get on with it
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Good post Martin.
Who are you and what have you done with Alcazar?!?!?!
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:37 AM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36618317


I think that probably sets the scene for how negotiations will go
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:42 AM
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I think that one of the great ironies of this will be that it will shock the EU in to reform, and it could become something great, something it should have been, and we won't be part of it, to our detriment.
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:44 AM
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Well, the Racist chants have now started

Apparently, if you voted `out`, you must be a racist. Over 17 million of us are Racist.
Old 24 June 2016 | 11:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-36618317


I think that probably sets the scene for how negotiations will go
Rightly so, last thing they want is us adding economic uncertainty the (long) list of problems the EU has. They don't need to worry about us anymore so I can fully appreciate why they want us gone sooner rather than later.
Old 24 June 2016 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Geezer
I think that one of the great ironies of this will be that it will shock the EU in to reform, and it could become something great, something it should have been, and we won't be part of it, to our detriment.
This is what I fear. Indeed, the irony of ironies - in that it took Britain to spark it......but we wouldn't be part of it!


The EU will either fragment spectacularly, or the above will happen. Ho hum.

It surely cannot now go on as-is.

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Old 24 June 2016 | 01:14 PM
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FTSE 100 now higher than last Friday before this vote even took place. I'm sorry but where are all the "expert" economists now? It's no where near as bad most people thought it would be. The UK is such a strong Country to start with in the first place- we can go at this alone. Looks like people are finally smelling the coffee.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:15 PM
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I'll be very surprised if there isn't isolated violence this week, some real hatred from the remain camp building. Even comments to the local low-key paper claiming all 'leavers' are racist/xenophobic.

Southern based social media outlets directing a lot of hatred towards Northerners.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:23 PM
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My gran's on the phone in tears about her voting out has caused the country to go up the wall and she's regretting it, bless her (she's in her 80's and very frail).

Spent the past 10mins trying to convince her that her vote was a drop in the ocean.

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Old 24 June 2016 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
My gran's on the phone in tears about her voting out has caused the country to go up the wall and she's regretting it, bless her (she's in her 80's and very frail).

Spent the past 10mins trying to convince her that her vote was a drop in the ocean.
unfortunately thats going to be a lot of people today however...
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
My gran's on the phone in tears about her voting out has caused the country to go up the wall and she's regretting it, bless her (she's in her 80's and very frail).

Spent the past 10mins trying to convince her that her vote was a drop in the ocean.
One, very simplistic, way of looking at it: if she was to have voted the other way (or not at all), the result wouldn't have swung the other way.

So console her with that.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Ash Webster
unfortunately thats going to be a lot of people today however...

I have no concerns. We'll work it out. Truth be told it probably be a few years before we actually make any major changes. So barring the engineered market blips (which some are getting very rich from), it's business as usual.

Although I find it quite funny that the Labour camp are blaming Corbyn...are his MPs so deluding in their thinking that he could change the opinion of millions of voters.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I'll be very surprised if there isn't isolated violence this week, some real hatred from the remain camp building. Even comments to the local low-key paper claiming all 'leavers' are racist/xenophobic.

Southern based social media outlets directing a lot of hatred towards Northerners.
Must be an English thing Matt. Most of Scotland voted remain and we're pretty much just saddened by the whole thing.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:44 PM
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Must be an English thing Matt. Most of Scotland voted remain and we're pretty much just saddened by the whole thing.
Same here.
N.Ireland voted to remain also.
It'll just be years of uncertainty now, where everything you do will cost you more.
N.Ireland will have to get some kind of border again between the North & South.
Old 24 June 2016 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
I'll be very surprised if there isn't isolated violence this week, some real hatred from the remain camp building. Even comments to the local low-key paper claiming all 'leavers' are racist/xenophobic.

Southern based social media outlets directing a lot of hatred towards Northerners.
Yup! Been called both this morning already.

Funny, isn't it. If the vote had gone the other way, I doubt there would be the same reaction.

If it does kick off though, there were 1.7m more `Leave`voters than `Remain` voters. We out number the morons.
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Originally Posted by LSherratt
FTSE 100 now higher than last Friday before this vote even took place. I'm sorry but where are all the "expert" economists now? It's no where near as bad most people thought it would be. The UK is such a strong Country to start with in the first place- we can go at this alone. Looks like people are finally smelling the coffee.
Yep absolutely! Just been out at lunch chatting to a few of the guys from my office who were in the remain camp, and they're now starting to see this can be a positive move, and they're ready to embrace it and move forward!

Of course there'll be some hard-core liberals who just won't accept the result, but democracy doesn't always go the way you want.

The funny thing is seeing as we're not part of the single currency, not in the shengen zone (or what's left of that idea!), already drive on the other side of the road to the rest of the EU etc, we'll not really 'see' any huge changes really, even the FTSE now is only down like 3.8%, and is higher than it was a week ago!

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