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Old 24 June 2016 | 06:11 PM
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Camoron has resigned,the bankers are upset,we are on the way to making our own laws and controlling our own borders.

The jocks may **** off and stay in the Eu so we can point the poles the way to hadrians wall.


Where is the downside?
Old 24 June 2016 | 06:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Well that was a long night!


Things turned out pretty much exactly as I thought they would.


Anyway took the dog out for a walk on a beautiful morning, it gave me a chance to clear my weary head.


We have a brave new world, some of it looks exciting, some looks quite scary.


We need to ensure that we make the very best of our new circumstances and take advantage of the opportunities that may come our way. There are bound to be some fairly frantic market movements, and some short term financial challenges. We need proper leadership now to ensure that the longer-term prospects are positive.


It clear to me that non of the main party leaders have the confidence of the electorate, Cameron is obviously going, but Corbyn cannot remain either, he simply is incapable of offering effective opposition.


Lots of people on my side of this issue, are true patriots, we just have a different perspective on our place in the world.


What's important now is that we all try to pull in the same direction, the world has changed and that is now everyone's responsibility, not just the half the country that voted Leave.


Onwards Britain

Indeed, couldnt have put it better myself :
Old 24 June 2016 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Camoron has resigned,the bankers are upset,we are on the way to making our own laws and controlling our own borders.

The jocks may **** off and stay in the Eu so we can point the poles the way to hadrians wall.


Where is the downside?

Your a non national best get your visa in order or you'll be deported
Old 24 June 2016 | 06:56 PM
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not all of us scots wanted to stay in the bloomin eu

sturgdeon doesnt speak for all of us
Old 24 June 2016 | 07:01 PM
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Most important result.........http://sniffpetrol.com/
Old 24 June 2016 | 07:03 PM
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Well I've profited already anyway


And me


Old 24 June 2016 | 07:21 PM
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Great.

Camoron leaves. Boris to take charge? Hypocrisy of the highest order? A non elected prime minister. Again.

So our economy will be down the pan before long, recession, high rates of inflation and depressed wages...
Old 24 June 2016 | 07:39 PM
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Well I didn't vote in the end , couldn't decide

Saw my accountant today ( works for himself) and he listed a few ways in which those with the wonger just can tbe trusted

There are 19 different ways of listing profit on the account sheet and these accounts havnt been audited for ten years

Theres a Spanish mayor somewhere outside Barcelona ? whoose gone from being unemployed dole scrounger to flying around helicopter and on 1.3 mill a year ..meanwhile most the spansish royal family are nearly ALL being investigated for corruption

Tate an Lyle whove been docking their sugar on the thames for a hundered years are charged 31m by the eu every time a boat arrives


what about the other ones that going to join eu - maybe they'll be less corrupt
Old 24 June 2016 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by RAGGY DOO
Your a non national best get your visa in order or you'll be deported
I have a UK and eire passport
Old 24 June 2016 | 07:48 PM
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Originally Posted by JGlanzaV
Great.

Camoron leaves. Boris to take charge? Hypocrisy of the highest order? A non elected prime minister. Again.

So our economy will be down the pan before long, recession, high rates of inflation and depressed wages...
The economy is on a stronger footing now. We've had a stronger recovery post 2008 than all other eu countries because we have our own currency and can control rates. By voting out we've secured that (i.e. no threat of having to join the euro currency in future).

As for inflation, the problem has been GETTING some inflation - why do you think there has been QE all over the world?!! They're trying to generate it! If you end up with deflation (which most places are close to) it hits consumer spending as people delay purchases waiting for fall, and consumer spending is the biggest contributor to GDP.

We've managed to weaken the pound without ANY QE. Net result is exports are cheaper so it's a boost for manufacturing, and imports will go up so we'll generate some inflation. This is GOOD for the economy. Wages will go up with inflation and a stronger economy.
Old 24 June 2016 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Neil XR
not all of us scots wanted to stay in the bloomin eu

sturgdeon doesnt speak for all of us
+1 and the uk should stay the uk. What eu will there be anyway
Old 24 June 2016 | 08:13 PM
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Old 24 June 2016 | 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fat-thomas
Camoron has resigned,the bankers are upset,we are on the way to making our own laws and controlling our own borders.

The jocks may **** off and stay in the Eu so we can point the poles the way to hadrians wall.


Where is the downside?
Hadrians Wall not forming a border to Scotland, might be a slight issue. That and the fact there's next to **** all left of it...
Old 24 June 2016 | 08:26 PM
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http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...h-tap-11523353

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7101311.html

I wonder how many more people are going to come out wanting some of that membership money that was supposedly ear marked for new hospitals and schools...
Old 24 June 2016 | 08:52 PM
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-36617298

The UK has "little to fear from leaving the EU", the chairman of JCB has said.
Lord Bamford, who supported Brexit, said the business community "needed to look to the future".
"European markets are important to many UK businesses, including JCB, and this will not change," he said.
"We should look ahead to opportunities to trade more freely with the rest of the world, as well as building on existing trading relationships with customers and suppliers in Europe."
The boss of the heavy equipment firm said: "The UK is the world's fifth largest trading nation. We therefore have little to fear from leaving the EU."
Brexit: Five areas to watch on the economy
Jack: The great business referendum snub
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UK interest rate 'likely to hit zero'
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Results in full
While some economists have warned that Britain could be heading towards a recession as the result of a leave vote, others predict stronger growth.
"We can look forward to faster rates of economic growth as we embrace the world economy," John Hearn, economist at the London Institute of Banking and Finance said.
"The fall in the exchange rate benefits UK exporters by lowering prices and helps the domestic producer by making their products more price competitive and does not affect the rate of inflation: win win win for the UK economy."
'Selective' immigration
Peter Hargreaves, a founding partner of retail investment company Hargreaves Lansdown, said Britain could encourage the right type of immigration. Mr Hargreaves has been a prominent campaigner for the leave campaign and a major donor, although the firm he co-founded has remained neutral on the vote.
"We need immigrants, lots of them," he told the BBC.
"But we need to make sure it's the type of immigration we want so we can be selective and take the people that will make us prosper."
Other business figures that campaigned for a British departure from the EU included vacuum entrepreneur James Dyson and Tim Martin of the JD Wetherspoon pub chain.
Most leaders of the UK's largest firms came out in favour of a 'Remain' vote.
But some well-known voices have suggested that the British economy will not be adversely affected in the long term by leaving the EU. The investor Neil Woodford wrote in his blog that the vote to leave was not 'as negative a development' as the market's first reaction indicated.
The FTSE 100 initially fell by around 8% on Friday morning, but regained some of its value later in the day to close 3.15% down. The pound ended the day 7.5% down against the dollar.
Old 24 June 2016 | 09:45 PM
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Some people just don't deserve the right to f@ckimg vote How many more of these idiots have f@cked this country up!

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/people...ld-us-5965067/

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57...e29?edition=uk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...er-changes-he/
Old 24 June 2016 | 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by jonc
Some people just don't deserve the right to f@ckimg vote How many more of these idiots have f@cked this country up!

http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/24/people...ld-us-5965067/

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_57...e29?edition=uk

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...er-changes-he/
Yeah lets have a re-count, those few votes will swing it to remain won't they

People will have changed their mind in both directions, but 1) you won't likely read about it, and 2) it doesn't matter, the decision has been made, people need to stop crying about it and just deal with it.

Over 8% more people voted to leave than remain.

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Old 24 June 2016 | 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by neil-h
http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/po...h-tap-11523353

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7101311.html

I wonder how many more people are going to come out wanting some of that membership money that was supposedly ear marked for new hospitals and schools...

I honestly don't understand the Welsh vote; bar road infrastructure they've had a hell of alot of EU funding when compared to England north of the M25, the latter has been far more neglected with funding and just palmed off with white elephant projects.

The Birmingham results were also surprising; Round here its a staunched leave atmosphere, but in the next district its remain...in a area that has seen worse decline and further lack of investment and combined with funding cuts. This is the areas that needed proper funding and not squandering on building some convention center (£50million) that really benefited very few locally.

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I know not all of you wished this, yet it is done. I firmly believe this decision will be best for the country long-term, and many years from now, history will view it as one of the nation's greatest decisions. Rather than fear uncertainty, we should be optimistic and welcome positive change, which all depends, of course, on the competency and integrity of those that next lead our country. (by no means guaranteed, I acknowledge.)

It's encouraging to see some remainians on here have accepted the result in a dignified manner. I didn't think I'd ever say it, but I agree with the sentiment of Martin's long post. Geezer and BMWhere? have made sense, too. Regardless of stance, we must be united moving forward.

And for those throwing their toys out the pram and continuing to abuse leave voters, can they still not see it was this hubris and ignorance that contributed so much towards their campaign's downfall!? They need to learn to respect democracy, just in the same way millions accept they are ruled by a government for whom they did not vote. Good riddance to Cameron, and hopefully Osborne is next.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Over 8% more people voted to leave than remain.
I guess maths wasn't your strong point?
52 - 48 = 8????

Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
It's encouraging to see some remainians on here have accepted the result in a dignified manner. I didn't think I'd ever say it, but I agree with the sentiment of Martin's long post. Geezer and BMWhere? have made sense, too. Regardless of stance, we must be united moving forward.
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Originally Posted by Petem95
Yeah lets have a re-count, those few votes will swing it to remain won't they

People will have changed their mind in both directions, but 1) you won't likely read about it, and 2) it doesn't matter, the decision has been made, people need to stop crying about it and just deal with it.

Over 8% more people voted to leave than remain.
I'm not suggesting a recount or even a 2nd referendum as some are pushing for. My point is that these clowns would reduce their vote to nothing more than a bit of fun without considering the implications for everyone else and yet that demographic are quick to blame the "grey" vote for taking their future away.
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Originally Posted by Uncle Creepy
I know not all of you wished this, yet it is done. I firmly believe this decision will be best for the country long-term, and many years from now, history will view it as one of the nation's greatest decisions. Rather than fear uncertainty, we should be optimistic and welcome positive change, which all depends, of course, on the competency and integrity of those that next lead our country. (by no means guaranteed, I acknowledge.)

It's encouraging to see some remainians on here have accepted the result in a dignified manner. I didn't think I'd ever say it, but I agree with the sentiment of Martin's long post. Geezer and BMWhere? have made sense, too. Regardless of stance, we must be united moving forward.

And for those throwing their toys out the pram and continuing to abuse leave voters, can they still not see it was this hubris and ignorance that contributed so much towards their campaign's downfall!? They need to learn to respect democracy, just in the same way millions accept they are ruled by a government for whom they did not vote. Good riddance to Cameron, and hopefully Osborne is next.
Spot on post! Scoobynet needs post rec feature, and I'd give you one for that! (ooooo eerrr!)
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
I guess maths wasn't your strong point?
52 - 48 = 8????


51.9-48.1=3.8

(3.8/48.1)x100=7.9%

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It might be slightly different if we used the exact numbers!
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Originally Posted by BMWhere?
I guess maths wasn't your strong point?
52 - 48 = 8????


%....

I guess it wasn't yours...

48 * 1.08 = 51.84
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17,410,742 - 16,141,241 = 1,269,501

(1,269,501/16,141,241) x 100 = 7.86% to be exact
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52-48 = the difference

it would take 8% more of 48 to beat the 52.

yet the remain on here try to belittle those that choose to leave.
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Do i have to take back me led lightbulbs now

They are the most ridiculous feature in every car.

Really do think there should be a ban on posting now for 28 days to see what life is actually like in the new world.Then comment.

Because in my view,sod all will change (save for the new Prime Minister pet of that cat in number 10)

All will be fine and the nonsense today will soon be forgotten

Nothing will change
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Originally Posted by jonc
I'm not suggesting a recount or even a 2nd referendum as some are pushing for. My point is that these clowns would reduce their vote to nothing more than a bit of fun without considering the implications for everyone else and yet that demographic are quick to blame the "grey" vote for taking their future away.
Sorry jonc, I misunderstood the point you were making! Agree with what you're saying.
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I don't think it will make a single difference to anything, it certainly won't stop immigration for the most part and I couldn't give a **** either way, just a load of hype blown out of proportion.

Il still go to work (when I'm back from Spain) and il still get the same pay slip every week.

But I do hope that the undeniable ****ing lunatic that is Boris doesn't become pm or I will start drinking..... heavily


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