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Old 15 April 2016 | 08:21 PM
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Everytime im out in my type r, If I dinny manage single figure mpg then it was a pointless drive
Old 15 April 2016 | 08:34 PM
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Prior to buying my s202 I had envisaged selling my fiesta st, but decided to keep it. Stationary, staggering and slow moving traffic isn't much fun in the 202.

Drove a new age forester sti today. I could see that being my daily comfortable, spacious with a beast under the hood
Old 15 April 2016 | 08:46 PM
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When you have a nipper in the back or pregnant wife, improving/watching mpg becomes your life
It was awful when you had an M3 in front of you and you know the wife had placed a block of wood under the accelerator peddle.

In the end I cheated and bought an economic slowass 2nd car. I was behind a GTR in it the other day on a dual carriage way and had to bite my fist.

The WRX never sees upwards of 20mpg now
Old 15 April 2016 | 09:01 PM
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Everytime im out in my type r, If I dinny manage single figure mpg then it was a pointless drive


The only time I try and conserve fuel is if I'm going to Chris and Zoe's, down to your's or Asif's or Elvington, long journey's where I'm not sure where there's a Shell garage.
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bought an economic slowass 2nd car.
You bought a second Newage WRX?
Old 15 April 2016 | 09:53 PM
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If any of you want to calculate your mpg accurately, use the following method.

Next time you visit a petrol station, fill the tank to the very top and reset the trip odometer to zero.

Then the next time you fill up, make a note of:

the number of miles covered since your previous visit to the petrol station (X)
the number of litres of fuel it takes to refill the tank to the top (Y)

mpg = X ➗ (Y ➗ 4.55)

Repeat.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
You need to think literally.

Subaru don't advertise 30mpg for the 2002-2016 WRXs based on McRaes rally economy.

Your Subaru can manage around 40mpg in perfect flat ground conditions but throw in junctions and corners and the reality becomes 30mpg off boost. A few blasts or traffic jams and 24mpg, but you're not including that bpr so without sounding condescending I think you have a lambda/maf/stuck brake issue etc.
I'm not going to rise to your trolling bait again. But I will add that neither of my Subaru's have any issues at all. My WRX was mapped by Duncan and given a good bill of health. It's also been worked on by Rich @FB Tuning who gave it a clean bill of health. It's massively over serviced by my local Subaru main dealer who have also told me its great. She flies through MOTs every year and at 334bhp and 381lb/ft is great fun to drive.

I'm confident that 24mpg is perfectly normal and acceptance for a modified car with no faults.

I suggest you worry about your own car matey. If it's really giving that good fuel economy (which we all doubt) then you may have a lean running issue and you could be experiencing det and piston damage. I suggest you get your own car checked and your own affairs in order before you point the finger at those who do things properly without penny-pinching like yourself.
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
I'm not going to rise to your trolling bait again. But I will add that neither of my Subaru's have any issues at all. My WRX was mapped by Duncan and given a good bill of health. It's also been worked on by Rich @FB Tuning who gave it a clean bill of health. It's massively over serviced by my local Subaru main dealer who have also told me its great. She flies through MOTs every year and at 334bhp and 381lb/ft is great fun to drive. I'm confident that 24mpg is perfectly normal and acceptance for a modified car with no faults. I suggest you worry about your own car matey. If it's really giving that good fuel economy (which we all doubt) then you may have a lean running issue and you could be experiencing det and piston damage. I suggest you get your own car checked and your own affairs in order before you point the finger at those who do things properly without penny-pinching like yourself.
Your 24mpg is perfectly normal for a remapped car , mines remapped to 260-280 and does between 24-26 mpg depending on traffic conditions
Old 15 April 2016 | 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by drfeelgood
Your 24mpg is perfectly normal for a remapped car , mines remapped to 260-280 and does between 24-26 mpg depending on traffic conditions
I have a spec V 2005 blob JDM mapped to 365BHP....

It's Bonkers and I love it.... But would never have it as a dayly driver Bec:

A) Driving a car like this dayly takes the excitement of it away.

B) at 8.9MPG at full pace, I would need a tanker following me lol..

Buy a cheap Sti and keep the ST if I was u.
Old 16 April 2016 | 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by t14ard
I have a spec V 2005 blob JDM mapped to 365BHP....

It's Bonkers and I love it.... But would never have it as a dayly driver Bec:

A) Driving a car like this dayly takes the excitement of it away.

B) at 8.9MPG at full pace, I would need a tanker following me lol..

Buy a cheap Sti and keep the ST if I was u.
I wish I could run 2 cars but no space/spare cash etc... I'm just board of the ST and I've always wanted a scoob, I miss having AWD as the ST is useless in wet, I'm tempted by a B5 S4 but it needs the k04 conversion to be really quick and they're a bit over priced (IMO) I think I'd be happy with well modded bug wrx..
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Originally Posted by andrew murray
I wish I could run 2 cars but no space/spare cash etc... I'm just board of the ST and I've always wanted a scoob, I miss having AWD as the ST is useless in wet, I'm tempted by a B5 S4 but it needs the k04 conversion to be really quick and they're a bit over priced (IMO) I think I'd be happy with well modded bug wrx..
Listen mate, I do not know you from Adam,

But from experience do Not think a WRX with bolt on bits is a STi. I have done it and you just waste money.

If u want a Scooby, get an STi and buy a ford festa for a couple of £100 as a run around.

Scooby's are "fun" driving cars.

But unless you spend a fair bit of money they are not amazing.

You will not want to drive a tunned car Daly.

I went driving driving with my friends on Sunday, we did 136 miles.

That cost me £80.

All the other cars ( golf R's Megan RS's etc used circa £60)

Motorway driving 230miles for a tank at 60 - 70 mph.

I had a S3 before that would do 350 -380 miles to a tank.

But sold it as it was not engaging.

If you cannot afford the fuel, then I would walk away as it will just upset you.

Hope that helps.
Old 16 April 2016 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by t14ard
Listen mate, I do not know you from Adam,

But from experience do Not think a WRX with bolt on bits is a STi. I have done it and you just waste money.

If u want a Scooby, get an STi and buy a ford festa for a couple of £100 as a run around.

Scooby's are "fun" driving cars.

But unless you spend a fair bit of money they are not amazing.

You will not want to drive a tunned car Daly.

I went driving driving with my friends on Sunday, we did 136 miles.

That cost me £80.

All the other cars ( golf R's Megan RS's etc used circa £60)

Motorway driving 230miles for a tank at 60 - 70 mph.

I had a S3 before that would do 350 -380 miles to a tank.

But sold it as it was not engaging.

If you cannot afford the fuel, then I would walk away as it will just upset you.

Hope that helps.
Who said anything about not being able to afford fuel? My ST is running 300+ and drinks like a fish, my camed R32 before that... Well you get the idea, I'm no stranger to tunned cars

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Old 16 April 2016 | 10:58 AM
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It's all about personal choice and you sound like you are going in with your eyes open. I have run a Bug Wagon for around 10 years. Totally practical and the most reliable car I've owned, hence why it's still here. It runs at over 400/400. It returns 20ish mpg driven sensibly, a lot less when not. When it was standard, the fuel economy was not that much better. It's my only car, although I do use the wife's Freelander 2 when I cannot be arsed changing gear. It done some huge trips around the UK and fits my 2 labs in the back with ease! Buy one with huge service history that's been looked after and you won't go too far wrong. All cars have their weaknesses. At the end of the day, these cars are not too expensive to buy. However, buy a modded one and the costs add up. I've spent over £3000 already this year on brakes, body and suspension. That was just keeping it in tip top shape - basic maintenance. Buy with your eyes open and you won't go wrong. Good luck.
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Originally Posted by Steve001
At 50mph on level ground it returns around 45mpg.

Dear God I nearly choked on my coffee
Lol!!

Where on Earth can you do a constant 50mph, on level ground, long enough to get a WRX mpg figure up to those numbers? What a load of absolute tosh
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Blob WRX Wagon PPP here, few handling mods and AP4pots, bought with 92k on the clock and just coming up to 125k been trouble free.

As a daily drive it's fantastic, quick enough to pass a line of traffic on country roads, never been beaten off the line at traffic lights, if I can be arsed and with the mods I have it's a decent fast road tool when i'm in the mood for a bit of fun, can also fit a washing machine or my Cane Corso in the back and plaster boards on the roof rack.

Careful off boost driving will see 28mpg around town sticking to speed limits and not racing off the line, on my 2/3 times a year that I drive to and from Croatia which is 1300 miles each way I see roughly 36mpg @ 70/80mph and under 3k rpm, it's done that trip a fair few times over the last 4yrs so well documented.

Go over 3k rpm and it's a totally different story, they drink fuel like it's going out of fashion, but I only drive it quickly a few times a year on roads I know very well that don't have speed traps or cameras, I need my licence so I stick to the speed limits and drive like miss daisy most of the time, in fact I think I'll be selling up this summer and getting a little 1.0L Corsa of Fiesta because for the amount of times I drive in anger these days it's just not worth shelling out for, may as well save my money and have a day or two out on a good carting track.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Blob WRX Wagon PPP here, few handling mods and AP4pots, bought with 92k on the clock and just coming up to 125k been trouble free.

As a daily drive it's fantastic, quick enough to pass a line of traffic on country roads, never been beaten off the line at traffic lights, if I can be arsed and with the mods I have it's a decent fast road tool when i'm in the mood for a bit of fun, can also fit a washing machine or my Cane Corso in the back and plaster boards on the roof rack.

Careful off boost driving will see 28mpg around town sticking to speed limits and not racing off the line, on my 2/3 times a year that I drive to and from Croatia which is 1300 miles each way I see roughly 36mpg @ 70/80mph and under 3k rpm, it's done that trip a fair few times over the last 4yrs so well documented.

Go over 3k rpm and it's a totally different story, they drink fuel like it's going out of fashion, but I only drive it quickly a few times a year on roads I know very well that don't have speed traps or cameras, I need my licence so I stick to the speed limits and drive like miss daisy most of the time, in fact I think I'll be selling up this summer and getting a little 1.0L Corsa of Fiesta because for the amount of times I drive in anger these days it's just not worth shelling out for, may as well save my money and have a day or two out on a good carting track.
Couldn't agree more with you. I rarely go past 4 K in term of revs - it's still a buzz when I floor it.
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Originally Posted by sprigeteer
Couldn't agree more with you. I rarely go past 4 K in term of revs - it's still a buzz when I floor it.
I had a WRX PPP and it's a great all round car.... But if you want a wow car... Get a JDM STi.

Night and day different.

Wagon is at being a car for everyone... I had the SL. Spent lots of money on it, but it will never be a STi.

STi is just a car for u. It's bonkers and will make u smile a lot.

As everyone has said, just keep you eye's open... But drive a twin Scroll before buying a std WRX ... Then come back on here with your thoughts.

Hope that helps .
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Originally Posted by t14ard
I had a WRX PPP and it's a great all round car.... But if you want a wow car... Get a JDM STi.

Night and day different.

Wagon is at being a car for everyone... I had the SL. Spent lots of money on it, but it will never be a STi.

STi is just a car for u. It's bonkers and will make u smile a lot.

As everyone has said, just keep you eye's open... But drive a twin Scroll before buying a std WRX ... Then come back on here with your thoughts.

Hope that helps .


My old WRX wagon SL PPP .





My WRX STi Spec V JDM
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Been running a 2002 sti bug as my daily from 2014, love the car, no problems as a daily, running stock sti suspension and 350hp, never any issues
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Originally Posted by t14ard





My old WRX wagon SL PPP .





My WRX STi Spec V JDM
P.s - misses loved the Wagon as it had heated seats and was great at long distances... She hates the STi it's loud, shocking interia and a hard ride..

But it's also bonkers fast and sounds like a jet plane when running at 8000rpm 😜
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you have answered your own question , you want a daily DRIVER you actually drive a scoob, most other cars you ride in, even a un modded newage is a riders car, a classic modded or un modded is a drivers car, you feel the road through the steering wheel and your **** , 24-29mpg 100.000 miles in 11 years and still loving it every time i turn the key, its all about smiles per mile
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing

I'm confident that 24mpg is perfectly normal and acceptance for a modified car with no faults.
TBH mate on wy-scoobs.com I declared that I cruise at 30mph in 5th and nobody could believe it, they all said around town at 30mph they are all in 3rd! I said mine would be screaming for 4th at 30mph in 3rd but nobody would have it. My wife has tried to cruise in 5th but she has to drop to 4th as the car judders. I suppose I can pulse drive a bit better?

I guess the WRX owners claiming 20-26mpg and the WRX owners claiming 30-36mpg have different driving styles.

I've just noticed autotrader list the Newage WRX has achieving 39.8mpg extra urban.

My 45mpg on a flat road at a set optimum speed doesn't seem so ludicrous now does it

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Originally Posted by Peedee
Lol!!

Where on Earth can you do a constant 50mph, on level ground, long enough to get a WRX mpg figure up to those numbers? What a load of absolute tosh
Time wasn't a factor, it was a current fuel usage reading reading which didn't fluctuate much, not a long term average, at set speeds my car uses different amounts of fuel. Uphill or under heavy acceleration it can be as low as 6mpg, on level roads at 50mph 45mpg, 60mph 35mpg and once at 85mph over 40 miles on the flat M62 eastbound following my impatient cousin's Polo I recorded 25mpg average.

I managed the manufacturers claim of 39.8 exactly on an 100mile trip to Bridlington and back from Wakefield. A very flat straight journey. When I wasn't braking or accelerating for what ever reason I was sitting at around 45mpg.

I used to manage up to 42mpg from my nearest Shell Station to my house, an 11 mile journey, I'd say 75% of it was downhill though. The route there was usually around 30mpg.

I would like to know how Subaru and or Autotrader came up with 39.8mpg though as when I did it I barely ever stopped or altered my set speed.

Originally Posted by ditchmyster

Careful off boost driving will see 28mpg around town sticking to speed limits and not racing off the line, on my 2/3 times a year that I drive to and from Croatia which is 1300 miles each way I see roughly 36mpg @ 70/80mph and under 3k rpm, it's done that trip a fair few times over the last 4yrs so well documented.
Impressive figure, my economy drops off sharply past 50mph so I tend to stick to 50 on B roads and 60 on the motorway.

Like I say at around 80mph my car returns around 25mpg. This might because of compression issues, I don't know.

It beats the hell out of me how a car with the same engine and gearbox driven off boost can only manage 24mpg combined.
Sometimes pulling onto a long straight I can boot it then let off the accelerator and cruise off throttle to the next junction, off throttle/overrun the car is returning over 100mpg! God knows how someone can average 24mpg combined off boost in a WRX, I'd struggle to get that low on the Nurburgring!!!

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At the end of the day if anyone is looking for fuel economy a Subaru is not the car to buy, like I said before, I need my licence and I also don't like paying 500 euro fines, so I stick to the speed limits and by way of entertainment on a very long drive I like to keep an eye on my boost gauge and keep it under zero as much as possible and plan ahead, having owned a couple of diesel panel vans you learn to plan ahead, not brake and gas but time your run when it comes to overtaking, I'm sure there are plenty on here that have done the same.

As mentioned above, it's all about driving style, I don't see the point of stomping the gas only to stomp the brakes 30 seconds later, that's just costing me money in fuel, pads and discs, I prefer to save all of the above for when I'm having some fun, not out on the school run or off to lidl for the weekly shop.

I filled up today as it happens and I just worked it out to a little over 24mpg and I did enjoy the car a few times on that tank full as the weather has been good, so those of you getting that as an average in the uk, (i'm on mountain roads in Croatia) must have a slightly heavy right foot.

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The only way to get 50 MPG is too push the car every where
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Originally Posted by Dvddan
The only way to get 50 MPG is too push the car every where
You can get 60mpg on certain parts of the M62! Especially the on the long dip into Lancashire or the long drop to Midgley.

Problem is when you have to go up one then down the other, it's the familiar 24-36mpg depending on driving style/mods
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Had my Impreza since 1998 never managed anywhere near those figures, but then again I didn't buy it for the great MPG, Who does?
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Originally Posted by Dvddan
Had my Impreza since 1998 never managed anywhere near those figures, but then again I didn't buy it for the great MPG, Who does?
Nobody!

But I'm sure there have been plenty of scenarios when your Impreza has averaged over 60mpg, albeit for a very small distance. A long spell on overrun or downhill stretch. Grange Moor to Horbury bridge in Wakefield is 5 miles downhill and I can manage the whole journey without touching the throttle once. In fact I used to turn the ignition off when doing the trip late at night.

Brownpantsracing seems to think his car manages 24mpg all the time, like a set fuel usage regardless of driving style/roads. What he doesn't realise is that if he spends time on boost or uphill and uses a fuel amount around 12-18mpg and still records 24mpg after his journey has finished that it means there will have been spells where he averaged around 30-36mpg to get his average of 24mpg.
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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Nobody!

But I'm sure there have been plenty of scenarios when your Impreza has averaged over 60mpg, albeit for a very small distance. A long spell on overrun or downhill stretch. Grange Moor to Horbury bridge in Wakefield is 5 miles downhill and I can manage the whole journey without touching the throttle once. In fact I used to turn the ignition off when doing the trip late at night.

Brownpantsracing seems to think his car manages 24mpg all the time, like a set fuel usage regardless of driving style/roads. What he doesn't realise is that if he spends time on boost or uphill and uses a fuel amount around 12-18mpg and still records 24mpg after his journey has finished that it means there will have been spells where he averaged around 30-36mpg to get his average of 24mpg.
Can you not read man? I said my car AVERAGES 24mpg from the 72k miles I have done using it as my daily car getting my kids to nursery and me to work. Christ man! It's all about your overall AVERAGE economy figure. What is the point in even saying my car does 44mpg sometimes (downhill) and 4mpg other times (uphill) therefore it averages 24mpg. Give me f*****g strength man!


Your comment about doing 60mpg downhill on the M62 make me laugh! Yes, even I can get 60mpg downhill at 70mph with the car in neutral and doing 1000rpm (or engine switched off). Maybe that's how I should drive everywhere to achieve high MPG figures? Keep the revs below 1000rpm? Or only do journeys that are DOWNHILL BOTH WAYS?


God almighty man! Do you even listed to yourself or read the total drivel you write?


Please stop posting. Every one of your posts just makes you look MORE of a tool than before. No offense!
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Originally Posted by BrownPantsRacing
Can you not read man? I said my car AVERAGES 24mpg from the 72k miles I have done using it as my daily car getting my kids to nursery and me to work. Christ man! It's all about your overall AVERAGE economy figure. What is the point in even saying my car does 44mpg sometimes (downhill) and 4mpg other times (uphill) therefore it averages 24mpg. Give me f*****g strength man!


Your comment about doing 60mpg downhill on the M62 make me laugh! Yes, even I can get 60mpg downhill at 70mph with the car in neutral and doing 1000rpm (or engine switched off). Maybe that's how I should drive everywhere to achieve high MPG figures? Keep the revs below 1000rpm? Or only do journeys that are DOWNHILL BOTH WAYS?


God almighty man! Do you even listed to yourself or read the total drivel you write?


Please stop posting. Every one of your posts just makes you look MORE of a tool than before. No offense!
Couldn't have put it better myself

Plus coasting down hill for X miles with the engine turned off (last time I looked) is illegal

Mine does 0 mph when I'm stuck in stationery traffic for a couple of hours



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