Death penalty for owners of mad dogs
22 August 2016, 03:54 PM
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I had my Rubix the fat cat playing with me one day in May this year. Actually, it was the other way round. Now we do allow them to play fight with our hands, but that day, my too much messing with relaxing Rubix taught me a lesson. All he wanted was to relax and I was acting dead affectionate with him after waking up from my unusually taken siesta one afternoon due to me feeling a bit under the weather. He's usually very positively responsive but I think he felt seriously moidered with me for suffocating him, so he slapped me one. His paw went straight into my right eye. I got up like a shot and thought I was bleeding buckets. Upon checking, there was no bleeding but a slight scratch on the white bit of my eye. I washed my eye and thought that the pain would fade by itself soon but by Jove, I was in agony by midnight and I had to attend the A&E. I got told there that good job I got it medically attended because the cats claw scratch in the eye could lead to permanent blindness. Apparently they have some natural poison in their claws to execute the deed. I got the treatment and I didn't go blind, but the fact (already stated before, on this thread) I'm supporting is that no animal can be taken for granted. Not even our fluffy, innocent looking, affectionate small cats.
People asked me if I gave an eye for an eye to Rubix for causing such an injury on me. Of course I didn't batter him. I cursed myself for being so obnoxious that my cat had to resort to telling me to p1$$ off by slapping me one.
Edited to add: Humans can also be unpredictable. They shouldn't be taken for granted either.
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22 August 2016, 04:21 PM
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22 August 2016, 04:22 PM
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Our roads are unpredictable, as you never know when someone might lose control of their vehicle, and cause serious trauma.
Therefore, to eliminate any such incidents, Children must be kept out of cars, as statistically they are far more likely to be injured or killed while travelling in a car.
22 August 2016, 05:09 PM
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Yes it it. You claim dogs are unpredictable, and therefore children must be kept away (meaning both Dogs and children never interact and become used to each other)
Our roads are unpredictable, as you never know when someone might lose control of their vehicle, and cause serious trauma.
Therefore, to eliminate any such incidents, Children must be kept out of cars, as statistically they are far more likely to be injured or killed while travelling in a car.
Our roads are unpredictable, as you never know when someone might lose control of their vehicle, and cause serious trauma.
Therefore, to eliminate any such incidents, Children must be kept out of cars, as statistically they are far more likely to be injured or killed while travelling in a car.
What on earth has a car crash got to do with dogs? A 3 year old child has just been killed by a dog, and I'm pretty sure it wasn't driving a car. I quite enjoy a reasoned argument, even on SNet, but this has descended into total farce.
22 August 2016, 05:20 PM
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I said drivers of cars are unpredictable, and cause far more injuries than dogs do, so therefore to protect children, they should be kept away from cars.
If you can't understand that, maybe I should explain it to a dog, and he can Woof it to you.
22 August 2016, 07:23 PM
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24 August 2016, 03:23 PM
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The human race is intrinsically "dumb". And for as long as it continues to be "dumb", sadly, children (and the occasional adult) will continue to be maimed and killed by dogs.
There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.
I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.
Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.
Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.
Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.
What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?
Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.
If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.
There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.
I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.
Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.
Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.
Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.
What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?
Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.
If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.
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The human race is intrinsically "dumb". And for as long as it continues to be "dumb", sadly, children (and the occasional adult) will continue to be maimed and killed by dogs.
There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.
I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.
Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.
Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.
Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.
What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?
Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.
If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.
There is a lot of nonsense being spouted on this thread about dog behavior, particularly that they are unpredictable wild animals.
I see that the dog bite stats are being posted. Bites and "maulings to death" are quite different behaviors.
Anyone with half an ounce of understanding of dog behavior will know that the vast majority of dog bites are down to people not understanding all of the warning signs before the bite finally comes. That bite is generally a last resort response from the dog, and contrary to some of the nonsense posted on here is a pretty predictable response at that. Its not the involuntary and unpredictable act of a genetically programmed hunter resorting to its natural wild state.
Unfortunately dogs can't say "ffs stop that, you're pi55ing me right off". Their response behaviors are more limited.
Dog maulings and the more prolonged attacks are a different behavior, and one more likely to have been heavily influenced by inappropriate or intentional training of those behaviors. Dogs are natural scavengers, not hunters. They have sharp teeth because they are carnivores. Hunting and fighting dogs are bred-in breed traits. Studies now conclude that dogs and wolves evolved separately from a common ancestor, not that dogs evolved from wolves.
What we need (as always) is for people to be better educated in dog behavior. We teach (or at least should) children the dangers of crossing a road, or talking to strangers. But how many of us take the time to understand what is likely to make a dog bite?
Having said all of that, I agree with the OP that the owners (or more specifically those that have taken inadequate care to prevent tragic events such as the one which prompted this thread) should be heavily penalised for allowing this to happen. If my dog bit anyone (or worse) and that was due to my ignorance or lack of care and attention, I'd accept responsibility for that.
If, however, some random child runs up to a dog and teases it to the point of getting bitten, then my sympathy lies with the dog and its owners.
Very well said indeed.