Death penalty for owners of mad dogs
#151
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You stated that certain breeds were less tolerant of humans. I posted evidence that your statement was incorrect.
No one is arguing that big powerful breeds are less likely to be linked with deaths. Of course a full force bite from a Rottweiler will be much worse than a full force bite from a dachshund, but there's a far greater chance of getting bitten by the dachshund.
#152
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Really, it's ignorant of me to suggest that much stiffer sentences are required for people who let potentially vicious animals they're supposed to be responsible for get out of control? Or for stating the blindingly obvious, that going after an unpredictable four-legged animal and trying to "rescue" it from a potentially life-threatening situation will most of the time turn out to be a very tragic fool's errand?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-wildfire.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-fell-ice.html
http://wgme.com/news/local/man-dies-...-new-hampshire
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-35209924
(close to 2 Millions hits, for the phrase 'man dies saving dog')
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-wildfire.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-fell-ice.html
http://wgme.com/news/local/man-dies-...-new-hampshire
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-35209924
(close to 2 Millions hits, for the phrase 'man dies saving dog')
Nearly 7 million hits for "man dies having sex"
What's you point? Is having sex really that dangerous? is it a fools errand too?
Apparently its less risky to try and save your dog than it is to have sex, by your measure.
I do agree though. Stiffer sentences for waste of space owners with dogs that maim and kill people - provided the owner is clearly negligent in terms of care.
What do you do when child climbs over fence into somewhere it should never be, in a good middle class street and gets killed by two dogs who are in their garden wondering what this new play thing is that's just appeared, is likely now screaming and running about in panic, a reaction which will create a seriously heightened sense of excitement in the dogs?
Do you hang the dogs owners for that?
Or do you save that for "chav scum" with trophy dog that cant control their animal whilst out?
#153
I don't own a dog or any pet for that matter, so I can't really comment on which of the two I would save in a given hypothetical situation. However, despite the fact I find it hard to comprehend how one could put the life of an animal over a person, evidently it seems that this is not at all uncommon.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...rning-building
Given that pets are considered family members and their owners having an emotional attachment to their companion, I can only equate the choice to either saving a member of family over a stranger and obviously family comes first. Also bear in mind that you shouldn't feel hard done by that your wife is more likely to save your pet over you to which I can only put down to them having a stronger or greater emotional attachment to the pet than yourself. Man's best friend is nothing compared to woman's best friend!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...rning-building
Given that pets are considered family members and their owners having an emotional attachment to their companion, I can only equate the choice to either saving a member of family over a stranger and obviously family comes first. Also bear in mind that you shouldn't feel hard done by that your wife is more likely to save your pet over you to which I can only put down to them having a stronger or greater emotional attachment to the pet than yourself. Man's best friend is nothing compared to woman's best friend!
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#154
I don't own a dog or any pet for that matter, so I can't really comment on which of the two I would save in a given hypothetical situation. However, despite the fact I find it hard to comprehend how one could put the life of an animal over a person, evidently it seems that this is not at all uncommon.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...rning-building
Given that pets are considered family members and their owners having an emotional attachment to their companion, I can only equate the choice to either saving a member of family over a stranger and obviously family comes first. Also bear in mind that you shouldn't feel hard done by that your wife is more likely to save your pet over you to which I can only put down to them having a stronger or greater emotional attachment to the pet than yourself. Man's best friend is nothing compared to woman's best friend!
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...rning-building
Given that pets are considered family members and their owners having an emotional attachment to their companion, I can only equate the choice to either saving a member of family over a stranger and obviously family comes first. Also bear in mind that you shouldn't feel hard done by that your wife is more likely to save your pet over you to which I can only put down to them having a stronger or greater emotional attachment to the pet than yourself. Man's best friend is nothing compared to woman's best friend!
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Basically, your argument is built on the assumption that no person loves their dog. Is this what you really think? If you can comprehend that people do love their dogs, or other pets, then surely it's obvious that, in the event of an emergency, a person would save a creature they loved before a random stranger for whom they have no personal feelings whatsoever!?
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It's an argument on Scoobynet, that's basically par for the course.
#158
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Ere if there's no death penalty for the likes of the scum who killed a soldier in broad daylight why so much Agro over this
#159
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Just because you think no animal's life is more important than a human life, doesn't mean it's right or everybody should or does feel the same. To call somebody a **** or a fool for having an opinion that's different to yours is ignorant.
Basically, your argument is built on the assumption that no person loves their dog. Is this what you really think? If you can comprehend that people do love their dogs, or other pets, then surely it's obvious that, in the event of an emergency, a person would save a creature they loved before a random stranger for whom they have no personal feelings whatsoever!?
Basically, your argument is built on the assumption that no person loves their dog. Is this what you really think? If you can comprehend that people do love their dogs, or other pets, then surely it's obvious that, in the event of an emergency, a person would save a creature they loved before a random stranger for whom they have no personal feelings whatsoever!?
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But FWIW... each situation is different, but generally, yes, I think owners of dogs that attack people (or other animals, eg. dogs they encounter whilst out walking) should face stiff sentences.
#161
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Nice job there of ignoring pretty much every word of my last post. Since this thread was started on the subject of what criminal penalties should apply for owners of dogs who negligently allow their animals to attack other people, I'll ask you the question again in very simple terms, and you can then decide whether or not to reply. Do you agree that owners of potentially vicious animals should face stiffer sentences than they currently do, if they allow those animals to get out of control and cause serious harm to other people? Yes or no?
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I do agree though. Stiffer sentences for waste of space owners with dogs that maim and kill people - provided the owner is clearly negligent in terms of care.
What do you do when child climbs over fence into somewhere it should never be, in a good middle class street and gets killed by two dogs who are in their garden wondering what this new play thing is that's just appeared, is likely now screaming and running about in panic, a reaction which will create a seriously heightened sense of excitement in the dogs?
Do you hang the dogs owners for that?
Or do you save that for "chav scum" with trophy dog that cant control their animal whilst out?
What do you do when child climbs over fence into somewhere it should never be, in a good middle class street and gets killed by two dogs who are in their garden wondering what this new play thing is that's just appeared, is likely now screaming and running about in panic, a reaction which will create a seriously heightened sense of excitement in the dogs?
Do you hang the dogs owners for that?
Or do you save that for "chav scum" with trophy dog that cant control their animal whilst out?
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