trails

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I've lived in the country my whole life and there is no justification for treating animals in that way. It's just bollocks spouted by people who know no better.

ZANY

Is cannabis legalised there??

Sorry to go off topic all...

RAGGY DOO

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Are you a vegaterian?

RAGGY DOO

iTrader: (1)

No lad

trails

iTrader: (41)

I'm not vegetarian...my Mrs has been vegan for over twenty years though, so I guarantee whatever you have to say I will have heard it before.


This isn't about killing for food; there is **** all left of the animal after the dogs have finished with them. There is no justification for hunting animals for sport...the end.

RAGGY DOO

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So farmed chicken for example is a perfect environment for animals packed into dark Pens kept in their own **** never see the light of day and slaughtered for your dinner plate but hey it's cruel to chull rabbits?

trails

iTrader: (41)

I eat very little meat (Mrs is a great cook ) but what little I do eat is free range/ethically raised (OK, so there is the very occasional McBurgerKentucy after too many beers).


I didn't say it was cruel to cull rabbits, I said it was unacceptable to hunt for sport...particularly where dogs are used.

rossyboy

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Give me one good reason why you can't just shoot them if you're using a lamp? What you're doing is evil for your own sick pleasures. Simple as that.

urban

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Totally agree
I've seen what happens to rabbits/cats/foxes when dogs get the hold of them.

RAGGY DOO

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lets ban hunting with dogs and use man made methods to control vermin myxomatosis have you ever seen rabbits die from this ? They die a painful horrible death
My dogs dispatch quite few of these poor critters by doing so probably save hundreds more from been infected

Seriously ye haven't a clue

ZANY

That's a shame kiddo...

RAGGY DOO

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Lol doesn't stop folk thou
I don't smoke myself i did puff the green vey occasionally years ago nowt wrong with it

trails

iTrader: (41)

In my youth I used to hunt and was paid to do so by local land owners, nothing mega just modified .177s and .22s; so sqirrels, rabbita, magpies and woodys. I know you and I know your type; trotting out the same tierd old justifications for their sport.

You really haven't got a clue have you.

RAGGY DOO

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So your a former hunter unturned anti hunter ? Bit hypercritical wouldn't you say
Every rabbit my dog dispatches is consumed nothing wasted

urban

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I grew up on a farm, there's not much I haven't seen to be fair.

Question: Is this is for your enjoyment, rather than anything else?

trails

iTrader: (41)

Not really, that was 30 years ago and not been near a real gun for over 20 years...it would be hypocritical of me to preach here and continue to hunt, but I don't. It's all about education, empathy and growing up.

More justification for the act...and the personal gratification it brings you.

trails

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The crux of this issue is people enjoy it...so will use whatever justification they need to continue to partake. Its juat a shame when the activity is detrimental to others

I think we are all guilty of these behaviours -it's human nature- people mature at different rates so some take longer than others to recognise what they are doing.

RAGGY DOO

iTrader: (1)

Nonsense , why isn't it illegal then?

trails

iTrader: (41)

Legality is hardly a good barometer for what is and isn't acceptable now is it...for the record coursing is illegal in the UK.

RAGGY DOO

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I'm not in the uk am I?
Your saying murdering innocent animals in horrific etc yet there is no law against it
Suppose we ban fishing next lol

ZANY

trails

iTrader: (41)

That has been established via your signature and earlier post, unsure what your point is.

Blah, blah, blah...standard response. I used to fish a lot too, not been for years and it still calls to me because I loved it and was pretty darn good. It's wrong though as it's entertainment at another creatures expense.

RAGGY DOO

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Go away hippie
Scientists have established fish don't feel
Pain - no pain when hooked
Why wouldn't you fish

urban

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Hardly the same though is it.

Catch a fish vs have dogs relentlessly hunt down a defensive animal, then rip it apart - quite literally

trails

iTrader: (41)

Well done, cracking cuss...I'm assuming you had help


OK, I'll bite -see what I did there - show me your evidence

trails

iTrader: (41)

Compelling arguments that they are indeed the same thing; chase a small animal to the point of exhaustion...drag an animal around by its mouth until it's exhausted, granted different end games but frighteningly similar concepts when considered.


I used the same argument in the 80s to defend fishing when the hunt saboteurs tried to lump it in with fox hunting.

RAGGY DOO

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Dog rips what apart ? Mine don't rip anything apart quick clean dispatch
Something you can't always do with a gun

Peedee

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Thank ****.

RAGGY DOO

iTrader: (1)

Your confusing what we do to what the idiots on horses with packs of hounds do
Two different things
Unfortunately vermin cannot be allowed to breed out of control
Numbers need controlling
My phone rings off the hook with farmers wanting vermin removed glad to help

RAGGY DOO

iTrader: (1)

Sit down have a nap let the grown ups talk